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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 01:21 PM
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Interesting concept and the fact they have as many gun manufacturer's onboard to launch will help.
Any idea what suppressor they had that made a soft whistle sound?
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 01:23 PM
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I bet that one will fail. It offers almost nothing that I can see and has a special case material.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 01:34 PM
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Seems like it will work better than the .277 Fury hybrid case and be reloadable, they did say it was developed as part of a military solicitation so I wonder if they might be thinking of switching to this type of case. Maybe 7mm Backcountry is basically 7mm-08 with a few tweaks to prevent mischamberings? I haven't seen a case diagram yet, nothing on SAAMI.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 02:03 PM
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Interesting concept and the fact they have as many gun manufacturer's onboard to launch will help.
Any idea what suppressor they had that made a soft whistle sound? I was surprised at the amount manufacturers. Saw a video with the owner of Seekins and he thinks high pressure is the future and has a new action design to handle it.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 02:38 PM
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Seems like it will work better than the .277 Fury hybrid case and be reloadable, they did say it was developed as part of a military solicitation so I wonder if they might be thinking of switching to this type of case. Maybe 7mm Backcountry is basically 7mm-08 with a few tweaks to prevent mischamberings? I haven't seen a case diagram yet, nothing on SAAMI. Long-action, looks more like a .280 AI, just with the different case material.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 02:41 PM
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3000 fps with a 195 Berger in 24". That's 28 Nosler speeds. Curious on the "reality" of this velocity.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 03:10 PM
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Bet it has a little bite on the recoil with no reducers.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 03:31 PM
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This is the 2nd new cartridge that pushes the envelope on pressures. Is high pressure going to be the newest thing going forward? What's barrel life going to be?
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 03:51 PM
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I’ll wait on the sidelines until it’s clear this is the wave of the future. It’s worth pointing out that these performance improvements are totally useless for 90% of deer hunters; cost is much more of a factor and I can’t imagine these innovations will be cheap.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 04:06 PM
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I really want to be excited about this. Who doesn't want more/better for less? But I well remember Federal's introduction of the 224 Valkyrie. Pretty much the same promises yet there was very little Federal did not screw up when they introduced the cartridge. I am suspicious of 80,000 psi but that may just date me. I am suspicious that, again, Federal's leadership is comfortable selling us something that makes them a lot of money no matter what the customer actually is buying.
I hope it's the best thing since sliced bread. We'll all know soon enough.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 04:09 PM
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This is the 2nd new cartridge that pushes the envelope on pressures. Is high pressure going to be the newest thing going forward? What's barrel life going to be? Meanwhile, at Pac-Nor...
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 04:12 PM
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28 Nosler has been doing a fine job for a while now.
And with a brass case.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 05:01 PM
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I really want to be excited about this. Who doesn't want more/better for less? But I well remember Federal's introduction of the 224 Valkyrie. Pretty much the same promises yet there was very little Federal did not screw up when they introduced the cartridge. I am suspicious of 80,000 psi but that may just date me. I am suspicious that, again, Federal's leadership is comfortable selling us something that makes them a lot of money no matter what the customer actually is buying.
I hope it's the best thing since sliced bread. We'll all know soon enough. Exactly! The military is running their new 6.8 round (6.8x51) and is a 308 Win sized case at 80K psi. Their testing rounds were 72K psi. Brass can't handle this kind of pressure. So the case heads are having to go to steel to handle that pressure. 80K psi is well over normal proof rounds for ammo, so that ammo is Paris Hilton hot.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 06:09 PM
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If it’s Paris Hilton hot that brass is wore smooth out.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 06:37 PM
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If it’s Paris Hilton hot that brass is wore smooth out. It's only January 7th....... and that may be the comment of the year!!!!
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 06:52 PM
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 07:18 PM
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Federal makes really good factory ammunition. Their history of cartridge introductions with the 338 Federal and 224 Valkyrie has been mediocre at best. Their history with reloading components has been abysmal.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 08:23 PM
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If Hornady was marketing it and supporting it then it might have a chance.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 09:46 PM
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If it’s Paris Hilton hot that brass is wore smooth out. Outstanding sir!
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 11:32 PM
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Well-made, reloadable, steel cases can withstand high SAMMI pressures
.28 Nosler but with 20 grains less powder which means longer barrel life which the .28 Nosler doesn't have.
2900fps out of a 16" barrel.
I'd say it's worth a look.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/07/25 11:50 PM
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Well-made, reloadable, steel cases can withstand high SAMMI pressures
.28 Nosler but with 20 grains less powder which means longer barrel life which the .28 Nosler doesn't have.
2900fps out of a 16" barrel.
I'd say it's worth a look.
I didn’t know powder cause barrel wear.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/08/25 12:12 AM
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Well-made, reloadable, steel cases can withstand high SAMMI pressures
.28 Nosler but with 20 grains less powder which means longer barrel life which the .28 Nosler doesn't have.
2900fps out of a 16" barrel.
I'd say it's worth a look.
I didn’t know powder cause barrel wear. Yes, maybe, no, depends on who you talk to. Not just how much but they, whoever “they” are, suggest that H4350 will erode barrels faster than Varget.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/08/25 04:22 AM
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Seems to me Federal has seen the shift to shorter barrels so you can run a Suppressor and not be ungainly long. This 7mm BC runs same speeds as 28 Nosler with 25grs less powder and a faster burning powder so your not blowing all that unburnt powder from your 20 inch barreled 28 Nosler loaded with Retumbo into your 1000.00 Suppressor. There might be a slight reduction in recoil but when you move a 170 gr bullet out at 3150 there will be recoil. I bet Steve Hornady is probably thinking hmmm 6.5 Creedmoor with 143’s at 3100fps right about now.
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Re: 7mm Backcountry
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01/09/25 03:59 PM
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glad I held on to my H1000 and Retumbo
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