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Diesel Fuel Additives? #9163790 01/05/25 03:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,809 Prosper, TX B Big Fitz OP THF Trophy Hunter
OP Big Fitz THF Trophy Hunter B Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,809 Prosper, TX	Do any of you use a diesel fuel additive? I thought this analysis was very interesting.

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163792 01/05/25 03:51 AM
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 37,473 Frisco B Buzzsaw THF Celebrity
Buzzsaw THF Celebrity B Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 37,473 Frisco	Are you looking at a diesel vehicle? SPACE FOR RENT

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163795 01/05/25 03:52 AM
Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 5,630 Grayson county J jetdad THF Trophy Hunter
jetdad THF Trophy Hunter J Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 5,630 Grayson county	Thank you for reminding me. I need to put some in the tractor to keep the fuel from gelling up.

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163802 01/05/25 04:12 AM
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 5,727 Deep East Texas F flintknapper THF Trophy Hunter
flintknapper THF Trophy Hunter F Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 5,727 Deep East Texas	I use additives in my Tractor (1996 Kubota L2350). Running perfectly all these years later. Spartans ask not...how many, but where!

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163808 01/05/25 04:35 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 62,966 Metroplex BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal
BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 62,966 Metroplex	archoil AR6300 is the Winter Diesel Treatment version of 6500… FWIW, I switched this year from Stanadyne but to be fair Stanadyne has a separate Lubricity Formula product(purple bottle) Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163813 01/05/25 04:56 AM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 33,490 Boerne TX/Garven Store T txtrophy85 THF Celebrity
txtrophy85 THF Celebrity T Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 33,490 Boerne TX/Garven Store	I use dieselkleen when it’s cold out For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Buzzsaw] #9163827 01/05/25 05:34 AM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,809 Prosper, TX B Big Fitz OP THF Trophy Hunter
OP Big Fitz THF Trophy Hunter B Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,809 Prosper, TX	Originally Posted by Buzzsaw Are you looking at a diesel vehicle? I've had a 2001 F250 7.3 since new with only 146K on it. It is nothing compared to today's diesels with super high fuel pressure into the injectors.

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163830 01/05/25 05:54 AM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 62,966 Metroplex BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal
BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 62,966 Metroplex	Originally Posted by Big Fitz Originally Posted by Buzzsaw Are you looking at a diesel vehicle? I've had a 2001 F250 7.3 since new with only 146K on it. It is nothing compared to today's diesels with super high fuel pressure into the injectors. Archoil claims their oil supplement is the cat’s knees for 7.3 https://www.archoil.com/products/ar9100-oil-additive Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163833 01/05/25 06:01 AM
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ntxtrapper THF Celebrity N Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 15,614 Bosque County	I don’t have a modern diesel truck but I’ve never added anything to my tractors and never had an issue. I don’t run a tractor when it’s 20 degrees outside though. Is that the reason folks add it to trucks? Running them at night in very cold conditions?

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163839 01/05/25 07:07 AM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 6,399 NE Texas Ol Thumper THF Trophy Hunter
Ol Thumper THF Trophy Hunter Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 6,399 NE Texas	We currently have 48 trucks and pieces of equipment with diesel engines and letting the fuel gel inside a single one will cause major issues so I buy this stuff by the cases and always put it to use when the temps fall below 25 degrees for multiple days. One trackho gelled up during the big freeze due to it being forgotten about on the side of he road from a previous project and it seems like it was around $14,000 in damages to repair. It’s a cheap insurance policy in my book, we also run some Amsoil injector cleaner through all the equipment every so often as well but I’m not sure that does very much if I’m being honest.

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Ol Thumper] #9163856 01/05/25 11:51 AM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,117 Tbar THF Celebrity
Tbar THF Celebrity Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,117	Originally Posted by Ol Thumper We currently have 48 trucks and pieces of equipment with diesel engines and letting the fuel gel inside a single one will cause major issues so I buy this stuff by the cases and always put it to use when the temps fall below 25 degrees for multiple days. One trackho gelled up during the big freeze due to it being forgotten about on the side of he road from a previous project and it seems like it was around $14,000 in damages to repair. It’s a cheap insurance policy in my book, we also run some Amsoil injector cleaner through all the equipment every so often as well but I’m not sure that does very much if I’m being honest. Good stuff. I use it as well in cold weather. I also add it to my holding tank for the tractors when I buy fuel for them. My truck gelled back during the big freeze and I had to use this to get it started. Make America Great Again

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163875 01/05/25 01:02 PM
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GasGuzzler THF Trophy Hunter Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 7,868 Cooke County, Texas	I know what I am doing at work tomorrow. And the stores will all be sold out of the good stuff. Better take my chicken lamp to work. Pass the gravy.

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: ntxtrapper] #9163917 01/05/25 02:50 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 62,966 Metroplex BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal
BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 62,966 Metroplex	Originally Posted by ntxtrapper I don’t have a modern diesel truck but I’ve never added anything to my tractors and never had an issue. I don’t run a tractor when it’s 20 degrees outside though. Is that the reason folks add it to trucks? Running them at night in very cold conditions? That’s because you live in north central Texas It’s the single digits where there are problems. Further north you go the more anti gel is already added…. Normally. Not always the case though with bulk buy. Most the newer trucks with HP fuel rails start easier then glow plugs as it is though. I normally have more issue with not having oil pan heater then I do fuel, but I grew up in panhandle so fuel additive is second nature Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163921 01/05/25 03:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 23,555 Forney, Tx B BigPig THF Celebrity
BigPig THF Celebrity B Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 23,555 Forney, Tx	I ran DieselKleen in the freeze of 2021, but never did after that. That Ram I had didn’t not have a way to plug it in and I was driving at either 9pm or 6am. It would take about 4 cycles of the key before it would fire off. The new Ford doesn’t have a plug either. It’s not cold enough this time for me to be concerned about any additives. My biggest concern is the DEF fluid, what temps will it freeze or gel or whatever it does? Wade Dews, REALTOR ® Rendon Realty, LLC Frontline Real Estate Team www.RendonRealty.com WadeDews@gmail.com 214-356-2410 Up to 1% for closing costs for First Responders & Veterans Proudly partnered with Assist The Officer Foundation https://atodallas.org/

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: BigPig] #9163926 01/05/25 03:22 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,655 San Marcos, TX 6 68rustbucket THF Celebrity
68rustbucket THF Celebrity 6 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 18,655 San Marcos, TX	Originally Posted by BigPig I ran DieselKleen in the freeze of 2021, but never did after that. That Ram I had didn’t not have a way to plug it in and I was driving at either 9pm or 6am. It would take about 4 cycles of the key before it would fire off. The new Ford doesn’t have a plug either. It’s not cold enough this time for me to be concerned about any additives. My biggest concern is the DEF fluid, what temps will it freeze or gel or whatever it does? I believe the Ford DEF tank has an internal heater.

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163933 01/05/25 03:34 PM
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Old Rabbit THF Celebrity O Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 10,463 Harrison County, Longview TX	BigPig, it looks like the freezing point DEF is 12°F. On the wife's Ecodiesel Jeep Wrangler, it stays in the garage, but I also keep the DEF tank at less than half during winter so if it freezes it will have room to expand. If we need 4X4 when it's really cold, we take the Taco TRD.

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9163944 01/05/25 04:06 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,117 Tbar THF Celebrity
Tbar THF Celebrity Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,117	PowerService isn't just for cold weather. It is a lubricant as well as anti-jell. Might be something to consider running all the time if you are concerned about that CP4. Make America Great Again

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: 68rustbucket] #9163954 01/05/25 04:23 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 62,966 Metroplex BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal
BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 62,966 Metroplex	Originally Posted by 68rustbucket Originally Posted by BigPig I ran DieselKleen in the freeze of 2021, but never did after that. That Ram I had didn’t not have a way to plug it in and I was driving at either 9pm or 6am. It would take about 4 cycles of the key before it would fire off. The new Ford doesn’t have a plug either. It’s not cold enough this time for me to be concerned about any additives. My biggest concern is the DEF fluid, what temps will it freeze or gel or whatever it does? I believe the Ford DEF tank has an internal heater. My DEF heater has been out since ‘19. My truck starts right up in negative weather. It’s never went in to limp mode from cold and I’m in negative degree weather atleast 1 or twice a year. With that said I keep it full in the winter and run the premium stuff Usually your truck won’t go in to regen until engine is a certain temp anyway Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, b/c they know not victory nor defeat"- #26 TR

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9164031 01/05/25 06:50 PM
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kry226 The General Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 13,588 Florida	<------ Smiles in 7.3 V8 gasser...

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Tbar] #9164033 01/05/25 06:51 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 6,399 NE Texas Ol Thumper THF Trophy Hunter
Ol Thumper THF Trophy Hunter Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 6,399 NE Texas	Originally Posted by Tbar PowerService isn't just for cold weather. It is a lubricant as well as anti-jell. Might be something to consider running all the time if you are concerned about that CP4. Originally Posted by Tbar PowerService isn't just for cold weather. It is a lubricant as well as anti-jell. Might be something to consider running all the time if you are concerned about that CP4. I’d be highly concerned with any CP4, it’s a ticking time bomb

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: BOBO the Clown] #9164036 01/05/25 06:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 15,614 Bosque County N ntxtrapper THF Celebrity
ntxtrapper THF Celebrity N Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 15,614 Bosque County	Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown Originally Posted by ntxtrapper I don’t have a modern diesel truck but I’ve never added anything to my tractors and never had an issue. I don’t run a tractor when it’s 20 degrees outside though. Is that the reason folks add it to trucks? Running them at night in very cold conditions? That’s because you live in north central Texas It’s the single digits where there are problems. Further north you go the more anti gel is already added…. Normally. Not always the case though with bulk buy. Most the newer trucks with HP fuel rails start easier then glow plugs as it is though. I normally have more issue with not having oil pan heater then I do fuel, but I grew up in panhandle so fuel additive is second nature. So I shouldn’t mess with it? I have read about it causing problems too.

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: BigPig] #9164040 01/05/25 07:09 PM
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Superduty "The Regulator" Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 23,285 76012	Originally Posted by BigPig I ran DieselKleen in the freeze of 2021, but never did after that. That Ram I had didn’t not have a way to plug it in and I was driving at either 9pm or 6am. It would take about 4 cycles of the key before it would fire off. The new Ford doesn’t have a plug either. It’s not cold enough this time for me to be concerned about any additives. My biggest concern is the DEF fluid, what temps will it freeze or gel or whatever it does? It will freeze at 12 degrees. Just make sure your def is not full or the def will expand and crack the tank. 'It's Only Treason if You Lose."

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9164055 01/05/25 07:29 PM
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Superduty "The Regulator" Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 23,285 76012	I added additives to my 2007 due to lower sulfur in 2007 and less frequently on my 2011 and 2017. Have not used any in my 2023 with 36k on her now. Simple question. Opti-lube in XL or XPD? Archoil? Which would you run? Edit not worried about the CP4 at all have logged over 800,000 miles in diesel engines. Just don’t let the fuel tank get below 1/4 tank and use high volume gas stations, along with don’t fill up if a tanker is there filling the diesel tanks on site. Last edited by Superduty; 01/05/25 08:19 PM. 'It's Only Treason if You Lose."

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: Big Fitz] #9164078 01/05/25 08:05 PM
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603Country THF Celebrity 6 Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 17,083 Central Texas	I use the same stuff that Ol Thumper does. Just now put it in Kubota tractor and RTV900, and took some to the neighbor for his tractor. The low here is estimated to be 24 degrees. Like someone said, it won’t be THAT cold, but I suppose I’m just overcautious these days. I’ve replaced enough busted pvc for at least one lifetime. So, I winterized everything but the cat. All that’s left is to worry about what I forgot. I guess I’ll add more firewood to the house rack. Not my monkeys, not my circus...

Re: Diesel Fuel Additives? [Re: BOBO the Clown] #9164085 01/05/25 08:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,809 Prosper, TX B Big Fitz OP THF Trophy Hunter
OP Big Fitz THF Trophy Hunter B Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 5,809 Prosper, TX	Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown Originally Posted by Big Fitz Originally Posted by Buzzsaw Are you looking at a diesel vehicle? I've had a 2001 F250 7.3 since new with only 146K on it. It is nothing compared to today's diesels with super high fuel pressure into the injectors. Archoil claims their oil supplement is the cat’s knees for 7.3 https://www.archoil.com/products/ar9100-oil-additive Thanks BOBO. I only drive my 7.3 once or twice a month. Never had a starting problem but did experience the lurching before warming up the other day so ordered the ar9100 and the ar6300. I never run any oil additive but saw so many good reviews on this stuff I had to try it.

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