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Does vortex make anything worth a chit? #9159669 12/27/24 06:32 PM
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A buddy gave me a 40% off coupon and I’m just wondering if there’s anything worth buying.

The long range guys poo poo the turret tracking but I’m thinking one of their low end scopes might be good for a knock around rifle.

What say ye?

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Many with far more experience will say they are horrible and have seen dozens of scopes self destruct in person however they have always performed well for me. I ran an HS-T model for about 10 years and now running the PST II as they were far cheaper than anything in comparison.

If you have money for Razors they are supposed to be built well and have reliable turrets but heavy.

The Razor LHT seems like it might fill a niche for many people if you need a hunting scope with tactical features.

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The Fury 5000’s are pretty good, they are not Alpha glass but good, and the AB works very well in them. The Razor spottting scope is fair. They do have a knockoff RRS tripod that is not bad as well. Just steer clear of anything that mounts on a rifle.

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Originally Posted by DustyArmadillo
A buddy gave me a 40% off coupon and I’m just wondering if there’s anything worth buying.

The long range guys poo poo the turret tracking but I’m thinking one of their low end scopes might be good for a knock around rifle.

What say ye?

I have a cheaper Strike Eagle SFP 1-8x24 that I bought when I wanted to see what the lpvo hype was all about, it's decent. I put a good amount of rounds through it on an AR-15, AK, and some bolt guns, never had any issues. I'll say, there is a bit of fish-eye at 1x and the eye relief is kind of bad at 8x, but it's not something I couldn't live with on what amounts to probably a $180 scope. On the opposite side of the spectrum, the Razor HD Gen 3 line is some of the best mid-range glass you can get in my opinion.

When you shop with the 40% off coupon, always double check other websites like optics planet, palmetto state, etc. Most of the time, Vortex isn't selling for MSRP, so there isn't really much of a discount to be had at 40%.

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There might be some scopes you could get zeroed, and then don't touch the elevation turret again. Just do reticle holds.

Don't "knock around" the rifle too badly, with one of their lower end scopes.

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Originally Posted by J.G.
There might be some scopes you could get zeroed, and then don't touch the elevation turret again. Just do reticle holds.

Don't "knock around" the rifle too badly, with one of their lower end scopes.

Never give a dime to Optics Planet.

But EuroOptic is where you want to go.


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There might be some scopes you could get zeroed, and then don't touch the elevation turret again. Just do reticle holds.

Don't "knock around" the rifle too badly, with one of their lower end scopes.

Never give a dime to Optics Planet.

But EuroOptic is where you want to go.


Yup.

I've spent about $50k with Euro Optic this year. Not one single problem.


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Re: Does vortex make anything worth a chit? [Re: DustyArmadillo] #9159700 12/27/24 07:25 PM
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Don’t know where you saw long range shooters poo pooing Vortex trackng. The Razor Gen II and even more so the GenIII are excellent top tier scopes but are made for competition and thusly heavy for hunting applications. The most used in PRS right now are Leupold,Tangent,then Vortex as third most used.
The only two scope brands for competition since you mentioned long range I would have over my Gen III Razors would be a ZCO or maybe try another Tangent Theta since they have introduced a new reticle I like better than the one I sold… although they still have their turret numbers tiny.


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No tracking problems with my first gen PST. It’s had close to 4000 founds under it and has worked flawlessly out to 1200 yards.


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My son just pick up a new/box open Vortex 4 -24X strike Eagle on ebay for $220.00 to put on his Tikka .308. Optics are clear and bright and tracks great. He's just a simple deer/hog hunter, nothing fancy. Won't dial his turrets and his shots are 200 yards or less. Usually 150 yards on the stand he hunts. He wanted more magnification than the 1-6X he's had on it for years. Nice find and nice scope for the money!


Distance is not the issue, but the winds can make it interesting!
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Anything Razor and above is pretty solid

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Razor line. Spotter, bino’s or LHT


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Razor spotter eye piece AFTER warranty replacement.

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I would probably buy one of their Razor spotting scopes.


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I had a Razor on a 25-06 that I used for several years and then the side focus knob seized up. They sent me a brand new one and the reticle did not light up on it, so they sent me another one and it is still in the box.

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"Theur customer service and warranty is great!"

Yeah, and most everyone has used it.


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Seems like it’s just hit or miss.

Gives meaning to “buy nice or buy twice”

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Heck from all I know, I’m still considering their rifle mounted rangefinder. If it’s up to speed, it’s an excellent tool.

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Razor spotter eye piece AFTER warranty replacement.

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Did they send a new eye piece or re-glue that one? I broke my little razor on a tumble, they sent me a new one.


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Re: Does vortex make anything worth a chit? [Re: DustyArmadillo] #9160131 12/28/24 09:17 PM
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That belonged to a guy at a match that had just got it back from vortex for a different issue. He was less than pleased. I can’t speak to what happened, he just showed it to me and I took the pic.

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With all the quality optics companies that exist I just don’t understand why I would ever buy their products. If their allegedly good product line was considerably less expensive than others, then maybe, but they’re not.

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Originally Posted by wp75169
That belonged to a guy at a match that had just got it back from vortex for a different issue. He was less than pleased. I can’t speak to what happened, he just showed it to me and I took the pic.


So if he knocked it over on the concrete it would still be Vortex' fault? Kind of ridiculous showing something like this without knowing any details IMO.

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The only truly worthwhile product(s) they have is their UHD binocular line. Everything else has better competition at typically more attractive price points (especially if folks would pick up the phone and ask for the best price).

I had a Viper HS go from working great on several hunts to having insufficient elevation to get to 100 yards; even dialing the previously validated 775 yards. Both a friend and myself remounted and attempted to re-zero. Again dialing to the previously validated 775 yards was insufficient to get to 100 yards. Sent it in and Vortex said the scope was good to go. Their service department was kind enough to put the scope right back at the number of clicks required to get to 775 yards. Removed the base, installed a 20 MOA base (which eventually became my de facto Vortex band aid) and sold the scope and rifle.

Both a new Viper and it had insufficient elevation to get to 100 yards on a. 308 Win. A friend and I remounted and still had insufficient elevation. Vortex checked the scope out and it was "perfect" so they claimed that my rifle had to be bent. Crazy part was a different Vortex scope worked fine on that "bent" rifle with the same rings, base, and ammo.

I had a new scope that lasted literally a handful of shots on a 6.5 CM before an internal lens went horizontal. The service center sent me the scope back unfixed. After a bit of wrangling, I finally got the scope repaired.

The only working Vortex scope that I still have is an old Diamondback that just keeps on ticking. My Vipers and Razors have all gone tits up at some point.

Between Trijicon, Maven, and Nightforce (especially with some sales and open box deals) you can get significantly better scopes that actually have a strong reputation for being reliable.

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That’s actually a bad statement, I know who it is and trust the veracity of it. You interjecting is what is ridiculous. Stick with what you know. I appreciate that input.

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Originally Posted by wp75169
That belonged to a guy at a match that had just got it back from vortex for a different issue. He was less than pleased. I can’t speak to what happened, he just showed it to me and I took the pic.


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