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 TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
#9155621
12/18/24 09:43 PM
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elvisp_bucks
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I believe that out of state hunters pay the same price as Texans for Texas draw hunts and they have the same draw odds as Texans. This is bs because other states like Colorado charge out of state hunters way more. I think Texas should charge more for out of state hunters and lower their odds. If you feel the same way then please mention this on these surveys. Maybe enough of these comments will help
Jason
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: elvisp_bucks]
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12/18/24 10:01 PM
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WBT
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I agree non-residents should be treated the same way we're treated when we apply out West. They should be required to buy a license to apply and limited to 10% or less of the available tags. And for hunts with a low number of tags (sheep, oryx, etc.) they should be limited to residents. I've made these comments every year and I seriously doubt TPWD cares. At all.
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: elvisp_bucks]
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12/18/24 10:26 PM
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BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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I believe that out of state hunters pay the same price as Texans for Texas draw hunts and they have the same draw odds as Texans. This is bs because other states like Colorado charge out of state hunters way more. I think Texas should charge more for out of state hunters and lower their odds. If you feel the same way then please mention this on these surveys. Maybe enough of these comments will help What we need- Active Hunting license to apply NR % cap No more then three choices per species regardless of weapon
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: elvisp_bucks]
#9155645
12/18/24 10:31 PM
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Stompy
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Follow the money..I bet they're thinking about out of state license fees..just a thought.
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: elvisp_bucks]
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12/18/24 11:50 PM
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QMC SW/EXW
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I believe that out of state hunters pay the same price as Texans for Texas draw hunts and they have the same draw odds as Texans. This is bs because other states like Colorado charge out of state hunters way more. I think Texas should charge more for out of state hunters and lower their odds. If you feel the same way then please mention this on these surveys. Maybe enough of these comments will help Just want to point out that TX also charges non-res hunters a lot more than res hunters. Look at the difference in license cost and since you have to have a valid license to apply for the draw hunt a non-res has a lot more in costs. Every state, including TX, soaks the non-res. It is what it is.
Retired Navy Chief
NJROTC Instructor for Los Fresnos High School
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
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#9155698
12/19/24 12:05 AM
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Herbie Hancock
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I believe that out of state hunters pay the same price as Texans for Texas draw hunts and they have the same draw odds as Texans. This is bs because other states like Colorado charge out of state hunters way more. I think Texas should charge more for out of state hunters and lower their odds. If you feel the same way then please mention this on these surveys. Maybe enough of these comments will help Just want to point out that TX also charges non-res hunters a lot more than res hunters. Look at the difference in license cost and since you have to have a valid license to apply for the draw hunt a non-res has a lot more in costs. Every state, including TX, soaks the non-res. It is what it is. Non res get the exact same of tags as residents. Do residents in other states have to buy specific type of license to hunt a certain animal like some do for non res?
It takes beer to make thirst worthwhile - J. Fred Schmidt
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: Herbie Hancock]
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12/19/24 01:47 AM
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QMC SW/EXW
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I believe that out of state hunters pay the same price as Texans for Texas draw hunts and they have the same draw odds as Texans. This is bs because other states like Colorado charge out of state hunters way more. I think Texas should charge more for out of state hunters and lower their odds. If you feel the same way then please mention this on these surveys. Maybe enough of these comments will help Just want to point out that TX also charges non-res hunters a lot more than res hunters. Look at the difference in license cost and since you have to have a valid license to apply for the draw hunt a non-res has a lot more in costs. Every state, including TX, soaks the non-res. It is what it is. Non res get the exact same of tags as residents. Do residents in other states have to buy specific type of license to hunt a certain animal like some do for non res? Can't answer for all but I grew up in CO and a resident has to buy a deer tag. A resident has to buy an elk tag. A resident has to buy a small game tag. Any license an non-resident has to buy is also required of a resident. A resident has to pay for a preference point just like a non-resident does. But I admit resident tags are cheaper than non-resident tags but that applies to every state including TX. WY pretty much follows CO in that residents also have to have licenses and I am not aware of any western state that does not require a resident to have a license to hunt but there are some eastern and southern states that do not require a land owner to have a license if they are hunting their own land. The cold hard fact is that every state charges non-residents between 10 and 15 times more than they do residents. That is the price to hunt and it isn't going to change.
Retired Navy Chief
NJROTC Instructor for Los Fresnos High School
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: QMC SW/EXW]
#9155863
12/19/24 12:35 PM
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BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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I believe that out of state hunters pay the same price as Texans for Texas draw hunts and they have the same draw odds as Texans. This is bs because other states like Colorado charge out of state hunters way more. I think Texas should charge more for out of state hunters and lower their odds. If you feel the same way then please mention this on these surveys. Maybe enough of these comments will help Just want to point out that TX also charges non-res hunters a lot more than res hunters. Look at the difference in license cost and since you have to have a valid license to apply for the draw hunt a non-res has a lot more in costs. Every state, including TX, soaks the non-res. It is what it is. Non res get the exact same of tags as residents. Do residents in other states have to buy specific type of license to hunt a certain animal like some do for non res? Can't answer for all but I grew up in CO and a resident has to buy a deer tag. A resident has to buy an elk tag. A resident has to buy a small game tag. Any license an non-resident has to buy is also required of a resident. A resident has to pay for a preference point just like a non-resident does. But I admit resident tags are cheaper than non-resident tags but that applies to every state including TX. WY pretty much follows CO in that residents also have to have licenses and I am not aware of any western state that does not require a resident to have a license to hunt but there are some eastern and southern states that do not require a land owner to have a license if they are hunting their own land. The cold hard fact is that every state charges non-residents between 10 and 15 times more than they do residents. That is the price to hunt and it isn't going to change. Texas has the cheapest application process in the entire country for non res. As a NR to enter CO draw you have to buy habitat stamp, NR hunting license and THEN deer tag if you draw and that’s assuming list A. You will have roughly $500 + tied up in “A” draw tag. Even if you go list B it’s still almost $500 for A tag and license NR will have <$100 per tag in Texas due to number of tags on license If Texas charged NR same as CO that out of state license would be over $2400(not count MD tags on it) and over 3000 including mule deer. No, TEXAS hunters get screwed because we sell close to Million Hunting licenses and max out Pitt And Rob ACT match, while other states have make NR application buy Hunting license to APPLY to get numbers up so they can max out the formula. Texas alone has roughly as many hunters as Idaho, Montana, CO and WY combined
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: elvisp_bucks]
#9155879
12/19/24 01:35 PM
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elvisp_bucks
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Everyone please put this on these surveys. Non-residents are taking our draw hunt spots for less than $100 bucks each and their states are making us pay thousands just to draw. Texas needs to provide advantages and incentives to our Texas resident hunters!!! Plus Texas is 98% private land so Texans need better opportunities to hunt the 2% of the public land that we have
Jason
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: elvisp_bucks]
#9155954
12/19/24 03:21 PM
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Sniper John
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Oklahoma would be a closer example to Texas. It is a draw very similar to what we have in Texas. But OK requires non residents to have a current hunting license to apply, so over $200 for the annual license. Then if drawn you are charged for the appropriate big game license. So over $500 more for the big game tag. Which I believe is a separate big game tag that is only good for the controlled hunt and not the same as the general big game tag for the entire state.
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: elvisp_bucks]
#9155985
12/19/24 04:06 PM
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Done. I'll be shocked if anything changes.
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
#9156115
12/19/24 07:33 PM
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QMC SW/EXW
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Texas has the cheapest application process in the entire country for non res.
]b] tthe man did not ask about the application process, he asked about licenses.[/b]
As a NR to enter CO draw you have to buy habitat stamp, NR hunting license and THEN deer tag if you draw and that’s assuming list A. You will have roughly $500 + tied up in “A” draw tag. Even if you go list B it’s still almost $500 for A tag and license.
CO residents also have to buy the habitat stamp and a license to participate in the draw. It isnt just non res. Here in TX a non res has to spend $315 before they can participate since they have to have a non res license. In CO a non res only has to buy a small game license for about $100 to participate and if they dont draw they dont spend anymore. But a non res in TX is still out $315.
NR will have <$100 per tag in Texas due to number of tags on license
So what. A res only pays $5 per tag since the general license only costs $25. Non res pays way more per tag
If Texas charged NR same as CO that out of state license would be over $2400(not count MD tags on it) and over 3000 including mule deer
Wrong. See my above. CO does not charge 20× as much for non res.
No, TEXAS hunters get screwed because we sell close to Million Hunting licenses and max out Pitt And Rob ACT match, while other states have make NR application buy Hunting license to APPLY to get numbers up so they can max out the formula.
Other states do not have the game numbers to sell that many tags which is why they have application and draws. This point is not relevant.
Texas alone has roughly as many hunters as Idaho, Montana, CO and WY combined.
So what. Have you bothered looking at population of the states. Are you really too stubborn to understand a state with 30,000,000 people sells more licenses that states that have much smaller population? I know you are smarter than that
Every state, including TX, sticks it to non res. Why is that so hard for some to grasp?
Retired Navy Chief
NJROTC Instructor for Los Fresnos High School
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: elvisp_bucks]
#9156131
12/19/24 08:09 PM
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Wytex
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Everyone please put this on these surveys. Non-residents are taking our draw hunt spots for less than $100 bucks each and their states are making us pay thousands just to draw. Texas needs to provide advantages and incentives to our Texas resident hunters!!! Plus Texas is 98% private land so Texans need better opportunities to hunt the 2% of the public land that we have Thousands just to draw, lol. Let's not get carried away. No license required to apply in Wyoming and some are still under $1000. In fact you can hunt elk in Wyoming for under $1,000. And most Western state do have licenses set aside for NRs , a set quota they can draw. I do agree that you all need a cap on NR licenses available in the draw or raise the fee for NRs to apply.
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Re: TPWD Drawn Hunts System Satisfaction Survey
[Re: QMC SW/EXW]
#9156152
12/19/24 08:49 PM
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BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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Texas has the cheapest application process in the entire country for non res.
]b] tthe man did not ask about the application process, he asked about licenses.[/b]
As a NR to enter CO draw you have to buy habitat stamp, NR hunting license and THEN deer tag if you draw and that’s assuming list A. You will have roughly $500 + tied up in “A” draw tag. Even if you go list B it’s still almost $500 for A tag and license.
CO residents also have to buy the habitat stamp and a license to participate in the draw. It isnt just non res. Here in TX a non res has to spend $315 before they can participate since they have to have a non res license. In CO a non res only has to buy a small game license for about $100 to participate and if they dont draw they dont spend anymore. But a non res in TX is still out $315.
NR will have <$100 per tag in Texas due to number of tags on license
So what. A res only pays $5 per tag since the general license only costs $25. Non res pays way more per tag
If Texas charged NR same as CO that out of state license would be over $2400(not count MD tags on it) and over 3000 including mule deer
Wrong. See my above. CO does not charge 20× as much for non res.
No, TEXAS hunters get screwed because we sell close to Million Hunting licenses and max out Pitt And Rob ACT match, while other states have make NR application buy Hunting license to APPLY to get numbers up so they can max out the formula.
Other states do not have the game numbers to sell that many tags which is why they have application and draws. This point is not relevant.
Texas alone has roughly as many hunters as Idaho, Montana, CO and WY combined.
So what. Have you bothered looking at population of the states. Are you really too stubborn to understand a state with 30,000,000 people sells more licenses that states that have much smaller population? I know you are smarter than that
Every state, including TX, sticks it to non res. Why is that so hard for some to grasp? All your bold is irrelevant and wrong what does 7 list B deer tags in CO cost a NR? Are you to stubborn to read up on how states charge NR to gain Pitt-rob tax allocation as it is a formula with license sales as a big input? What’s so hard to grasp about we want similar barriers of entry for NR in our application process? Texas is really sticking it to NR at $3 an app….again They DO NOT HAVE to have current license to apply, again bold is wrong. I apply in 10 plus states….. none are less than $100 too apply for a hunt choice, minus WY, but you front tags fees.
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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