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Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/17/24 03:31 PM
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/17/24 04:16 PM
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I echo the concept of low recoil and cheap ammo being used to develop shooting skills.
Question about those type rests I see used so much…. It’s great on the front end but what about the elbows and steadying the rest of the body? I’ll assume part is better than none and it’s not always practical, but do yall feel anchoring the rest of the body is not very significant? I also see people using them standing which for me wouldn’t be great. I’m not being critical of your set up but trying to learn how much significance yall put elsewhere.
Last edited by freerange; 12/17/24 04:19 PM.
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/17/24 04:26 PM
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Those are great little rifles and very accurate with good ammo. Lighter than their big brother the HMR, great triggers too.
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/17/24 04:38 PM
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I echo the concept of low recoil and cheap ammo being used to develop shooting skills.
Question about those type rests I see used so much…. It’s great on the front end but what about the elbows and steadying the rest of the body? I’ll assume part is better than none and it’s not always practical, but do yall feel anchoring the rest of the body is not very significant? I also see people using them standing which for me wouldn’t be great. I’m not being critical of your set up but trying to learn how much significance yall put elsewhere. Fireman would tell you 'build your base'. That's what the .22 helps with, you can practice, practice, practice for cheap until your body knows what to do around the rifle/rest. In the top pic, you see that he has one foot back, one forward, and his offhand is under the butt of the rifle for support. His rifle arm is tight to his body (again, support). He's also sitting off to the side as the chair is large for him; this allows him to sit against the support on the left side of the chair to help support his butt/back. For me, I would have the rifle a little further back in the saddle to promote loading the tripod a little more. But, this is likely a fairly short shot (50-100 yards) with a 22. All-in-all, pretty good form.
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/17/24 04:50 PM
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I echo the concept of low recoil and cheap ammo being used to develop shooting skills.
Question about those type rests I see used so much…. It’s great on the front end but what about the elbows and steadying the rest of the body? I’ll assume part is better than none and it’s not always practical, but do yall feel anchoring the rest of the body is not very significant? I also see people using them standing which for me wouldn’t be great. I’m not being critical of your set up but trying to learn how much significance yall put elsewhere. For teaching someone how to shoot and more real life hunting replication, I think the tripod situation is good. It’s not for shooting 1000 yard matches but for ordinary plinking and hunting and learning how to handle your weapon better. I also believe in making myself and others shoot free handed as well. I won’t take a shot that I’m not confident in and don’t think anyone should. However if one will practice free hand shots and front rest shots regularly, all should be good. JMO
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/17/24 04:50 PM
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GSYB, great run down. We need more posts about stuff like this. We go to so much time and money to hunt but some put little effort into the, all important, shot.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/17/24 04:53 PM
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I echo the concept of low recoil and cheap ammo being used to develop shooting skills.
Question about those type rests I see used so much…. It’s great on the front end but what about the elbows and steadying the rest of the body? I’ll assume part is better than none and it’s not always practical, but do yall feel anchoring the rest of the body is not very significant? I also see people using them standing which for me wouldn’t be great. I’m not being critical of your set up but trying to learn how much significance yall put elsewhere. For teaching someone how to shoot and more real life hunting replication, I think the tripod situation is good. It’s not for shooting 1000 yard matches but for ordinary plinking and hunting and learning how to handle your weapon better. I also believe in making myself and others shoot free handed as well. I won’t take a shot that I’m not confident in and don’t think anyone should. However if one will practice free hand shots and front rest shots regularly, all should be good. JMO Excellent point for sure. Probably why I’m such a poor shot. I gotta cheat every way I can to hit side of barn.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/17/24 05:17 PM
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GSYB, great run down. We need more posts about stuff like this. We go to so much time and money to hunt but some put little effort into the, all important, shot. I didn't track down his earlier videos, but the first 2-3 minutes of this hits some really important tips about points of contact, bone-bone, etc. Many of the things that Jason covers in his class. And you can replace 'barricade' with stump, treelimb, fencepost, etc. for real-world applications.
https://web.archive.org/web/20170223065011/http:/www.rrdvegas.com/silencer-cleaning.html
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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I like videos like that. Some may think they are too basic but to me most stuff is basic, or at least simple. I’m surprised the video didn’t mention sitting which it seems would of been better for one of those barricades. Another key point to me is which knee to use and he doesn’t cover which may be understandable since he was covering barricades(supported). When kneeling WITHOUT the rifle being supported, I was taught to use the other knee so it helps support the rifle.
Hope Barney doesn’t mind us using his thread for a shooting lesson….
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/18/24 01:15 PM
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Quit summed it up much better than I could, but another reason for the tripod I will add is safety. When my son started shooting he was not strong enough to hold a rifle by himself freehanded. With the BOG you can tighten it to where if they walk away from the rifle it doesn't move. Granted I'm always there watching/instruction, but if for some reason they decided to completely let go of the rifle I liked the piece of mind the rifle wasn't going to fall or slam down on the tripod. He also shoots off a bipod, bags, and a bench. He ran my 6.5 SAUM out to 600 yards I think at Jason's on that tripod which I thought was pretty good for his age. He's learning, but still not comfortable enough to just rest the rifle on the window of the blind and feel like he's making an ethical shot. Trust me. I'd love to be done carrying that tripod from blind to blind! Hope Barney doesn’t mind us using his thread for a shooting lesson…. Don't mind at all. As soon as we have time, I'm going to let him take Jason's class.
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/18/24 05:42 PM
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Do you, or others, clamp it tight to the stock or just cradle it in there with that type tripod? I’m asking cause others have said not to on those sled type vice setups? Always trying to learn….
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/18/24 06:07 PM
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Do you, or others, clamp it tight to the stock or just cradle it in there with that type tripod? I’m asking cause others have said not to on those sled type vice setups? Always trying to learn…. I always clamp it tight. Again it’s a safety thing with me. You can see in the pic below with us hunting a wheat field. The rifle is sitting secured in the BOG.
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Re: Bagara BMR in .22lr
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12/18/24 06:16 PM
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GSYB, great run down. We need more posts about stuff like this. We go to so much time and money to hunt but some put little effort into the, all important, shot. I didn't track down his earlier videos, but the first 2-3 minutes of this hits some really important tips about points of contact, bone-bone, etc. Many of the things that Jason covers in his class. And you can replace 'barricade' with stump, treelimb, fencepost, etc. for real-world applications. Yelp and then once they get body placement, stances, it’s hard to beat Carl Ross drill. unknown muntions sells the targets or make your own but it’s a great multi position drill with small calibers
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