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 Re: Bought a non Tikka
[Re: unclebubba]
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12/16/24 08:42 PM
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I'm a little late to this thread. I'm shocked that you have retired the CTR! You've always been very high on the Tikka CTR, so I am surprised.
My experience with Bergara has been mixed. I bought a b14 hunter years ago in 6.5CM. Could not get the damn thing to shoot well at all. With handloads, I was only able to get it down to just over 1MOA. Most groups were 1.5, with some upwards of 3MOA+. I traded that rifle to 603country, and he told me that he was able to get it to shoot very well...but he was loading 120 grain bullets (maybe 130?) and I was loading 143. That rifle just did not like the heavier bullets for some reason. I have two buddies that have Bergara rifles. Both HMR's. Both of them shoot lights out with Hornady premier hunter ammo.
Interested to see where this one ends up for you as I do like the barrel profile of the Ridge. It seems almost as heavy of a profile as the CTR, correct? IMO the CTR is a more accurate rifle than the Bergara. But, all features considered, the Bergara is a better "hunting" rifle for my needs. I have an extremely accurate Tikka Roughtek in 7mm Rem Mag that I now whitetail hunt with. I started having accuracy issues with my CTR after 8 years of hunting and many, many steel ringing trips. The barrel contour on the Bergara is B5, I think. It's a lighter rifle and lighter barrel contour is most of that I'd assume.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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12/16/24 09:38 PM
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Nice looking rig!
I have a Bergar HMR in .308 and a Tikka in 7mm-08. Love them both and use for different situations. Tikka, Bergara, and Ruger are the only rifles I recommend anymore.
My Bergara shoots a little over .5 MOA at 100 yards if I do my part with factory ammo. Smooth action, reliable, and accurate. Plus, a Rem700 footprint. Bergara has a good thing going on.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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12/17/24 03:24 PM
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I started having accuracy issues with my CTR after 8 years of hunting and many, many steel ringing trips. How many rounds? Over 1500? Maybe you need to replace the barrel?
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
[Re: unclebubba]
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12/17/24 03:29 PM
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I started having accuracy issues with my CTR after 8 years of hunting and many, many steel ringing trips. How many rounds? Over 1500? Maybe you need to replace the barrel? About that many.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/21/24 03:57 PM
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Both of my B-14 Ridges (7-08 and 30-06) shoot around .5 MOA with my hand loads. I did upgrade both of the triggers to Geissele Super 700 triggers, but the stock one is great.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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12/21/24 04:12 PM
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I traded for a HMR in 6.5 creed. Put a NF SHV 4-14x on it. Factory ammo, it wouldn’t shoot 143eldx for crap but shoots Norma 140 extremely well. Been very happy with it and think I came out on the better end of the trade. It’s not a dedicated LR setup, but every time I’m headed to the blind it gets the nod over several other 308’s. It fills the gap between sporter weight hunting rifles and lugging a LR type rig around. Stock is solid, trigger is great, action is smooth.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
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12/28/24 01:31 PM
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This rifle may be settling in to be a great shooter. I took their barrel break in procedure serious. I'm not going to be shooting a couple of hundred rounds a year through this rifle but will be taking a cold bore shot most outings. On the doe killing trip this week I center punched the 1" orange dot, waited a few minutes and stacked another shot on top of the first. Two shots isn't a group, but is a good indicator given what I've done with it so far. These shots were off of bags right at the recoil lug and a rear bag, the first two shots through a clean barrel. Killed the doe at exactly 200 yards and shot placement was right where I wanted it. I'm very close to 50 rounds through it.
Next outing I'll take a cold bore shot at the same target, another a few hours later and another the next day. I'll call that my five shot group for this hunting rifle.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/28/24 05:20 PM
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First cold bore shot is most important one, that's for sure. I bet it's repeatable as well. I've never had these "fouling flyers" some people talk about with clean barrels either. Nice shooting.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/28/24 05:49 PM
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First cold bore shot is most important one, that's for sure. I bet it's repeatable as well. I've never had these "fouling flyers" some people talk about with clean barrels either. Nice shooting. It's the one that matters the most to me. New rifle, new manufacturer, more to learn about and stacking up some animals along the way. Had it a month. A hog, coyote, doe so far.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/28/24 07:01 PM
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I think it was Kmon1 who uses playing cards he keeps. First shot out every time goes to the playing card. Cold bore consistency is very important, even if you’re a match shooter. Often we do a Cold bore challenge. Closest to center wins $$. Of course for most hunting it’s the only one that counts.
Then again, some on here claim it’s imaginary and poor discipline that makes the cold bore land in a different location. My theory is the slight moisture in the barrel from humidity that is not there in subsequent rounds.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/28/24 07:44 PM
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First cold bore shot is most important one, that's for sure. I bet it's repeatable as well. I've never had these "fouling flyers" some people talk about with clean barrels either. Nice shooting. I had one last week after cleaning. I was 128 +- rds dirty. Started have weird cold bore dope adjustments. Thought barrel had sped up a bunch(178+- total) according to my dope adjustments Fouled with two shots, first was 3” off, second closer, 3rd bulls eye, I let cool for 30min then did cold bore to 400. Bulls eye. Then moved to 600 sub MOA bullseye. back to normal. My 257 accuracy fouls same way, but 223 and CM’s not much change when clean. But also never have dirty issue with those On another note I also lost my [censored] on my sig RF last week too. Couldnt see to get a range even though bino’s and swaro spotter I could for sure. Needless to say about to order Lecia R and gpo(10x40) to compare when I get back from this person hell Hawaii trip
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/28/24 07:47 PM
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First cold bore shot is most important one, that's for sure. I bet it's repeatable as well. I've never had these "fouling flyers" some people talk about with clean barrels either. Nice shooting. I had one last week after cleaning. I was 128 +- rds dirty. Started have weird cold bore dope adjustments. Thought barrel had sped up a bunch(178+- total) according to my dope adjustments Fouled with two shots, first was 3” off, second closer, 3rd bulls eye, I let cool for 30min then did cold bore to 400. Bulls eye. Then moved to 600 sub MOA bullseye. back to normal. My 257 accuracy fouls same way, but 223 and CM’s not much change when clean. But also never have dirty issue with those On another note I also lost my [censored] on my sig RF last week too. Couldnt see to get a range even though bino’s and swaro spotter I could for sure. Needless to say about to order Lecia R and gpo(10x40) to compare when I get back from this person hell Hawaii trip Clean cold bore shot, outside subsequent shots is the rule more than the exception. I see it hundreds of times per year.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/28/24 10:57 PM
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I’m at my range fighting one now, brand new rifle
Cold bore always wants to land 3”-4” high, windage is good and then subsequent rounds land exactly where I want it.
Idk, everything is tight and torqued
16 rounds in at this moment, 3 rounds at a time
Im gonna finish this box and see what happens
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/28/24 11:10 PM
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I’m at my range fighting one now, brand new rifle
Cold bore always wants to land 3”-4” high, windage is good and then subsequent rounds land exactly where I want it.
Idk, everything is tight and torqued
16 rounds in at this moment, 3 rounds at a time
Im gonna finish this box and see what happens
Bergara? Bipod?
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/28/24 11:20 PM
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I use Dyna Bore Coat to treat all my rifle barrels....maybe that's the difference.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/28/24 11:20 PM
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No sorry, new X Bolt
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Shooting 180’s, Federal Fusions
Not impressed so far…
I’m gonna come back w a heavier bullet
I got the same results thru the 1st box
But FF’s have always done well on game for me but I’ve never considered them super accurate
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/28/24 11:25 PM
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I use Dyna Bore Coat to treat all my rifle barrels....maybe that's the difference. I'll read up on it.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/29/24 10:41 PM
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My Savage is consistently.9mil high and .4mil left on cold bore. Been that way for the past 4,000+ rounds
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/30/24 02:04 AM
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My Savage is consistently.9mil high and .4mil left on cold bore. Been that way for the past 4,000+ rounds You actually hunt with a rifle like that?
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/30/24 08:15 PM
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I use Dyna Bore Coat to treat all my rifle barrels....maybe that's the difference. I’ve never used it on rifle, but I did in a citori that chambers keep getting rust in it. It worked but wore off by second year. How often do you re coat?
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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I haven't had to recoat it yet in any of them, at least yet. I've got a couple of them that are 10 years old.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/30/24 11:13 PM
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My Savage is consistently.9mil high and .4mil left on cold bore. Been that way for the past 4,000+ rounds You actually hunt with a rifle like that? All the time. Why?
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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My Savage is consistently.9mil high and .4mil left on cold bore. Been that way for the past 4,000+ rounds You actually hunt with a rifle like that? All the time. Why? It wasn't a slight toward you, just wondered if you just compensate for that first cold bore shot when shooting at game or what? Seems like .9h and .4l is like 4" high at 100, almost 8" high at 200. I personally wouldn't screw around with something like that but was just wondering.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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It's .9 Mil high and .4 Mil right.
The inches don't matter.
If he has to make a cold bore shot at any distance, build in .9 down and .4 left from the normal correction.
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Re: Bought a non Tikka
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12/31/24 12:51 AM
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It's .9 Mil high and .4 Mil right.
The inches don't matter.
If he has to make a cold bore shot at any distance, build in .9 down and .4 left from the normal correction. You still have to compensate for it no matter what you call it, that's the point. Once again, not knocking the guy, but there's no possible way I'd go for that, and I used inches because 99.9% of hunters won't have the first clue what .9Mil/.4Mil means.
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