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panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s #910252 09/17/09 02:40 AM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,648 Cheyenne, WY F furdown OP Pro Tracker
OP furdown Pro Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,648 Cheyenne, WY	normally i am a neck shooter but i dont really ever have to shoot long ranges. i was thinking i might have to go out to 300 or 400yds. so my question is if i do take this long of a shot is putting it kinda high in the shoulder a good shot. i want to try and drop them in their tracks because i will be on public land. i think i have enough gun to break them down with a shoulder shot if i dont feel good with the neck shot. am i right? �There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never cared for anything else thereafter.�- Ernest Hemingway

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: furdown] #910261 09/17/09 02:42 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 35,131 B Brother in-law THF Celebrity
Brother in-law THF Celebrity B Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 35,131	Yes you have plenty of gun. You should probably learn what wind will do to your bullets at that range if you dont already know. Crazy wind

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: Brother in-law] #910389 09/17/09 03:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,140 Lubbock, TX T tkuehn5410 Pro Tracker
tkuehn5410 Pro Tracker T Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,140 Lubbock, TX	A 270 is plenty of gun for any game in Texas. I've known some to actually hunt elk with a 270, so you are well within your range.

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: furdown] #910531 09/17/09 04:15 AM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 523 Dallas T Tvilbig Tracker
Tvilbig Tracker T Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 523 Dallas	A 270 is plenty of gun. My mule deer from last year was shot with my cousin's 270 at about 400 yards and it dropped it right there. I would be more worried about hitting the deer at that range.

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: furdown] #910773 09/17/09 12:16 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 813 The Bayou City O oulufinn Tracker
oulufinn Tracker O Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 813 The Bayou City	Bullet placement and bullet selection is far more important than the small difference between most suitable caliber/cartridges. Practice out to the ranges you may shoot, so you KNOW where the bullet will hit, every time. 3-4 hundred yards under field conditions is a bit tougher than many make it sound. NRA Life Member "The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen" ~ Dennis Prager

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: oulufinn] #910856 09/17/09 01:21 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 60,483 Metroplex BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal
BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 60,483 Metroplex	BMD daughter killed a great mulie and whitetail last year with a 243. Then again she might out shoot all of us. I'd say 270 is plenty Last edited by jgiles; 09/17/09 01:22 PM. Donate to TX Youth hunting program.... better to donate then to waste it in taxes https://secure.qgiv.com/for/gtgoh/mobile

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: BOBO the Clown] #910886 09/17/09 01:37 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,124 The Woodlands, Tx P postoak Veteran Tracker
postoak Veteran Tracker P Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,124 The Woodlands, Tx	I think he was asking if the .270 WCF would penetrate thru both shoulder blades at 400 yards. Not a shot I've ever taken, so I simply don't know.

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: postoak] #910906 09/17/09 01:50 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 59 D deershepard Outdoorsman
deershepard Outdoorsman D Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 59	.270 is the perfect medecine for big muleys. 400 yrds is gettin pretty long for any gun

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: deershepard] #911149 09/17/09 03:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,648 Cheyenne, WY F furdown OP Pro Tracker
OP furdown Pro Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,648 Cheyenne, WY	i figured it was enough gun to do the job but just wondered if it would work out to those ranges and knock out the shoulders. i have never hunted in this area so are long ranges more often than short. i know its just more of where you happen to be at any given time. i will be at lake merideth if that helps any �There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never cared for anything else thereafter.�- Ernest Hemingway

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: furdown] #911182 09/17/09 03:43 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,191 Midlothian R Rowney Extreme Tracker
Rowney Extreme Tracker R Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,191 Midlothian	I use mine, but i shoot em through the lungs at that distance, even using a bonded bullet. You just never know with that much energy loss. Even on public land, they wont go far, the one i shot at 450 through both lungs ran about 50 yards. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind...Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks--Thomas Jefferson

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: furdown] #911199 09/17/09 03:51 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 60,483 Metroplex BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal
BOBO the Clown kind of a big deal Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 60,483 Metroplex	Originally Posted By: furdown i figured it was enough gun to do the job but just wondered if it would work out to those ranges and knock out the shoulders. i have never hunted in this area so are long ranges more often than short. i know its just more of where you happen to be at any given time. i will be at lake merideth if that helps any Don't know why it would be any different then any where else. The shot distance is always determind on how comfortable you are with it. As my grandfather use to say don't act like a chicken on the top of a hill and you'll be alright Last edited by jgiles; 09/17/09 03:52 PM. Donate to TX Youth hunting program.... better to donate then to waste it in taxes https://secure.qgiv.com/for/gtgoh/mobile

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: BOBO the Clown] #912130 09/17/09 10:07 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 813 The Bayou City O oulufinn Tracker
oulufinn Tracker O Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 813 The Bayou City	Originally Posted By: jgiles BMD daughter killed a great mulie and whitetail last year with a 243. Then again she might out shoot all of us. I'd say 270 is plenty Exactly. Put a good boolit where it's supposed to go & good things happen. She used an 85 grain TSX & knocked the snot outta those deer. She is on a streak & it sure isn't luck! I expect we'll see more of the same, this year. NRA Life Member "The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen" ~ Dennis Prager

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: oulufinn] #912137 09/17/09 10:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 793 central texas T tx270 Tracker
tx270 Tracker T Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 793 central texas	270 is a classic mule deer cartridge. You have the perfect gun.

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: furdown] #912241 09/17/09 10:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 22,268 West Texas 7 7mag THF Celebrity
7mag THF Celebrity 7 Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 22,268 West Texas	270 will work fine. I shot mine last year at over 300 yards, and it fell like a sack of taters. "Laugh with many, but don't trust any"

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: furdown] #914204 09/18/09 08:48 PM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 24,362 Denton/Argyle D dkershen Rev Dave
dkershen Rev Dave D Joined: May 2009 Posts: 24,362 Denton/Argyle	.270 is an ideal gun. But please do yourself and the buck a favor and keep your shot reasonable. 400 yard shots get hunters kicked off my place. If you don't practice them alot (weekly) they are difficult to execute on a consistant basis. Wind in the panhandle is almost always a factor. A 150 grain bullet fired at 2900 FPS can drift up to 19 inches at 400 yards in 10-mph wind. Don't mean to bust your chops, but I've had to spend too many days in the field tracking deer for hunters that don't understand the practical limits of their firearms. Enjoy your Muley hunt and hope to see your pic's posted soon... To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. www.NewHopeEquine.com - Health and Healing through Horses.

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: dkershen] #914480 09/19/09 12:17 AM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,648 Cheyenne, WY F furdown OP Pro Tracker
OP furdown Pro Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,648 Cheyenne, WY	Originally Posted By: dkershen .270 is an ideal gun. But please do yourself and the buck a favor and keep your shot reasonable. 400 yard shots get hunters kicked off my place. If you don't practice them alot (weekly) they are difficult to execute on a consistant basis. Wind in the panhandle is almost always a factor. A 150 grain bullet fired at 2900 FPS can drift up to 19 inches at 400 yards in 10-mph wind. Don't mean to bust your chops, but I've had to spend too many days in the field tracking deer for hunters that don't understand the practical limits of their firearms. Enjoy your Muley hunt and hope to see your pic's posted soon... just a little info that i should include. i am not one of these sight my gun in the weekend before season and only shoot three to four times. i shoot quite often and also shoot long ranges. if i thought i would just wound one at that far away i would not do it. i am very familiar with the panhandle just not with hunting there. not to sound like an a** but i do appreciate your comment. i just mainly wanted to know some opinions on a shoulder shot at that distance since the longest shot on an animal i have shot is about 225yds �There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never cared for anything else thereafter.�- Ernest Hemingway

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: furdown] #914494 09/19/09 12:24 AM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 24,362 Denton/Argyle D dkershen Rev Dave
dkershen Rev Dave D Joined: May 2009 Posts: 24,362 Denton/Argyle	understood... .270 on the shoulder will do fine breaking them down assuming a quality bullet. I'm partial to barnes triple shock. To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target. www.NewHopeEquine.com - Health and Healing through Horses.

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: dkershen] #914733 09/19/09 03:10 AM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 581 San Antonio, TX R Redboneman Tracker
Redboneman Tracker R Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 581 San Antonio, TX	I am really liking the Federal Fusions. They are placing very tight patterns for me. And they will put on on the ground quick status according to the charts, granted we will see this season.

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: furdown] #914974 09/19/09 11:51 AM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 31,055 Howard County HWY_MAN THF Celebrity
HWY_MAN THF Celebrity Joined: May 2006 Posts: 31,055 Howard County	Originally Posted By: furdown Originally Posted By: dkershen .270 is an ideal gun. But please do yourself and the buck a favor and keep your shot reasonable. 400 yard shots get hunters kicked off my place. If you don't practice them alot (weekly) they are difficult to execute on a consistant basis. Wind in the panhandle is almost always a factor. A 150 grain bullet fired at 2900 FPS can drift up to 19 inches at 400 yards in 10-mph wind. Don't mean to bust your chops, but I've had to spend too many days in the field tracking deer for hunters that don't understand the practical limits of their firearms. Enjoy your Muley hunt and hope to see your pic's posted soon... just a little info that i should include. i am not one of these sight my gun in the weekend before season and only shoot three to four times. i shoot quite often and also shoot long ranges. if i thought i would just wound one at that far away i would not do it. i am very familiar with the panhandle just not with hunting there. i just mainly wanted to know some opinions on a shoulder shot at that distance since the longest shot on an animal i have shot is about 225yds His was a very valid comment and warranted. I've seen lot's of people brag about 400 yard shot's but I've seen few who could actually make them and they'd never try it on anything other than a target. The kill zone on a deer is the same at 50 yards as it is at 400 but the ability of the rifle itself to make that shot lessens with distance; now throw in the shooter and outside variables and you've created a formula for disaster. Few people can hit a 12 inch pie plate at 400 yard's with they're first shot and that's the most critical one. Last edited by HWY_MAN; 09/19/09 11:56 AM. Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: furdown] #914983 09/19/09 12:03 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 68 TX panhandle S SkinnyT Outdoorsman
SkinnyT Outdoorsman S Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 68 TX panhandle	Originally Posted By: furdown i figured it was enough gun to do the job but just wondered if it would work out to those ranges and knock out the shoulders. i have never hunted in this area so are long ranges more often than short. i know its just more of where you happen to be at any given time. i will be at lake merideth if that helps any If possible hunt Meredith during the week. Lots of people hunt that place on weekends. I have seen 8-10 hunters overlooking one draw before.

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: HWY_MAN] #915089 09/19/09 02:49 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,648 Cheyenne, WY F furdown OP Pro Tracker
OP furdown Pro Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,648 Cheyenne, WY	Originally Posted By: HWY_MAN Originally Posted By: furdown Originally Posted By: dkershen .270 is an ideal gun. But please do yourself and the buck a favor and keep your shot reasonable. 400 yard shots get hunters kicked off my place. If you don't practice them alot (weekly) they are difficult to execute on a consistant basis. Wind in the panhandle is almost always a factor. A 150 grain bullet fired at 2900 FPS can drift up to 19 inches at 400 yards in 10-mph wind. Don't mean to bust your chops, but I've had to spend too many days in the field tracking deer for hunters that don't understand the practical limits of their firearms. Enjoy your Muley hunt and hope to see your pic's posted soon... just a little info that i should include. i am not one of these sight my gun in the weekend before season and only shoot three to four times. i shoot quite often and also shoot long ranges. if i thought i would just wound one at that far away i would not do it. i am very familiar with the panhandle just not with hunting there. i just mainly wanted to know some opinions on a shoulder shot at that distance since the longest shot on an animal i have shot is about 225yds His was a very valid comment and warranted. I've seen lot's of people brag about 400 yard shot's but I've seen few who could actually make them and they'd never try it on anything other than a target. The kill zone on a deer is the same at 50 yards as it is at 400 but the ability of the rifle itself to make that shot lessens with distance; now throw in the shooter and outside variables and you've created a formula for disaster. Few people can hit a 12 inch pie plate at 400 yard's with they're first shot and that's the most critical one. i agree with with both of you. there are a lot iof people who do not need to try a shot at that distance. i did not mean to sound like bragging and know it is not a shot to be made with ease. i am pretty confident in myself to make a good judgement onto take the shot or not. i am pretty sure i could do it, but i would really like to be able for closer shots for i know what the wind is like there and unless i make a mistake if its under 200yds it a gonner. hopefully i can stalk in closer than these ranges �There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never cared for anything else thereafter.�- Ernest Hemingway

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: SkinnyT] #915106 09/19/09 03:01 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,648 Cheyenne, WY F furdown OP Pro Tracker
OP furdown Pro Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,648 Cheyenne, WY	skinnytv whats the hunting like there. and how about the terrian i cant find many pics of the place. i figured it would be crowded. have you hunted there much �There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never cared for anything else thereafter.�- Ernest Hemingway

Re: panhandle mulie w/ 270 ?'s [Re: Brother in-law] #919324 09/22/09 02:57 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,127 McKinney, Texas S Stax Veteran Tracker
Stax Veteran Tracker S Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,127 McKinney, Texas	Originally Posted By: Brother in-law Yes you have plenty of gun. You should probably learn what wind will do to your bullets at that range if you dont already know. Crazy wind +1

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