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Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:33 AM
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txtrophy85
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Shot my first animal with my Bergara with the Harvester Evo.
Really a game changer, gonna be hard to go back the other way.
Don’t rifle hunt much anymore but I’m strongly tempted to buy 2 more rifles with stiff short barrels to run suppressed and retire my other rifles.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:40 AM
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scottfromdallas
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I’ve hunted suppressed for 4 years now. It’s great. 16” Ruger Scout 308 has been what I’ve used the last 3 years. 8.5 lbs suppressed and scoped. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-56970-438234-img_1095.jpeg)
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:42 AM
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Jgraider
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Shot my first animal with my Bergara with the Harvester Evo.
Really a game changer, gonna be hard to go back the other way.
Don’t rifle hunt much anymore but I’m strongly tempted to buy 2 more rifles with stiff short barrels to run suppressed and retire my other rifles. I've done much the same txtrophy, having chopped my McWhorter 7-08 to 18", as well as using my CTR 6.5CM (20"). Absolutely a pleasure to shoot.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:42 AM
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redchevy
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It looks neat, I’ve been wanting to get one, but what is the game changing aspect?
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:44 AM
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freerange
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It looks neat, I’ve been wanting to get one, but what is the game changing aspect? Very good question. He will have a thoughtful answer I bet.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:46 AM
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freerange
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Shot my first animal with my Bergara with the Harvester Evo.
Really a game changer, gonna be hard to go back the other way.
Don’t rifle hunt much anymore but I’m strongly tempted to buy 2 more rifles with stiff short barrels to run suppressed and retire my other rifles. I've done much the same txtrophy, having chopped my McWhorter 7-08 to 18", as well as using my CTR 6.5CM (20"). Absolutely a pleasure to shoot. If you can do it I can do it… Can’t believe I’m actually thinking about it. I won’t use it for any serious business.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 04:34 AM
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txtrophy85
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It looks neat, I’ve been wanting to get one, but what is the game changing aspect? Very good question. He will have a thoughtful answer I bet. Very little noise and muzzle rise. Really like shooting a grown up pellet rifle. Didn’t scare the animals nearly as bad and as I get older, hearing loss is a concern. Really best for all parties. There is no violent recoil or muzzle blast. It’s just a little crack. Completely civilized. Was able to watch the bullet hit and the animal react using regular .308 loads. I’ve shot the rifle without the can and it’s night and day difference
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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#9147662
12/03/24 05:31 AM
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How is it a game changer?! Single greatest improvement to your shooting experience. There is no better reduction in noise or recoil. 1) It makes a 308 feel like a 223 recoil. 2) Did I mention the significant reduction in noise. It no longer makes your brain wince, your guest jump, or your children go deaf. Oh Yeah - the animals F- love it being more quiet!.
When a rifle gets fired the animals are going to scatter no matter what.. This is a constant and happens regardless of whether you were using a suppressor or not. The key difference is that without using a suppressor the rifle's blast is so much greater that the animals flee to a different county and don't come back effectively ending your hunt. However, if you used a suppressor the animals are likely to return after a short while (1-2 hours) and so you get to continue hunting. For example I was out pig hunting one night and decided to stock up on meat. Over the span of 7 hours (9pm to 4am) I shot 5 large hogs (#150 - #350), with each one being shot separately over the course of the night. I was shooting supersonic ammo and the pigs kept moving through. This is a common thing with a suppressor.
If using a suppressor, the animals don't seem to really care whether you are using supersonic ammo or subsonic ammo. The supersonic crack doesn't seem to be a big deal. The animals will return... so I just go ahead and use supersonic ammo with my suppressor.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 11:54 AM
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Anyone that ever hurts suppressed will never hunt any other way. I've been doing it that way since 2012.
The reason so many people are asking about muzzle threading and cutting barrels shorter is because of suppressor popularity growing tremendously. They were already quite common, and the e-file speed made it snowball.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 12:35 PM
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I’ll never hunt any other way with a rifle. It’s just too comfortable, both from a hearing and recoil perspective. I won’t coyote or pig hunt with someone that doesn’t have a suppressor. It’s to the point that I setup a second gun with suppressor and NV for them to use. There’s absolutely zero reason to have to tolerate the noise and hearing damage or deal with hearing protection while hunting. The recoil reduction and dramatically less muzzle flip is an added bonus.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 12:50 PM
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As others said, its hard to go back. The advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Last week two guys I hunt with lined up on a sounder of hogs, their shots were between 360 and 500yds. They sat thee for 20 minutes laying them down with a 28 Nosler Suppressed. The hogs moved around a little, but never left. It is hard for the animals to pinpoint the direction of the shot suppressed, especially at night. Below is my kid with his 6.5-300 Wby lined up on a deer at close to 600 yds. He dropped that deer, the others went to the tree line and evaluated the situation for 15 minutes, looked in all directions and resumed eating. That rifle is extremely loud with a lot of muzzle jump when not suppressed. I sat there spotted the shot, he watched the deer fall in the scope, no ear plugs needed. From past experience, none of that would have happened without a can. On a side note, the 156 Gr Berger is a great performer, I was impressed with the four kills we had on it last week. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-10707-438237-img_2448.jpeg)
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 01:01 PM
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 01:22 PM
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J.G.
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Several times I've laid into the hog sounder at distance. 500 to 700 yards. They are so confused they have come toward me.
The Ballinger doe hunt I'd go on every year, many times I've killed two or three does on the same evening hunt. In the brush on the edge of wheat fields that are surrounded by mesquites. Kill a doe at my 10 o'clock, leave her alone and I stay put. Kill another one at my 2 o'clock.
Makes for a long night processing deer.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 01:25 PM
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Anyone that ever hurts suppressed will never hunt any other way. I've been doing it that way since 2012.
The reason so many people are asking about muzzle threading and cutting barrels shorter is because of suppressor popularity growing tremendously. They were already quite common, and the e-file speed made it snowball. Yep saw where Texas has smothering like 591k registered suppressors and the next closest state was FL with 252k most all other states are below 100k. Texas definitely leading the charge on the suppressor front.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 02:07 PM
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freerange
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This threads gonna cost me money…..
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 02:11 PM
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This threads gonna cost me money….. Never seen a Brinks truck following a hearse Free!  My son and I last weekend over a big wheat field! ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-692-438240-img_7580.jpeg) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-692-438241-img_7581.jpeg)
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 02:24 PM
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This threads gonna cost me money….. Never seen a Brinks truck following a hearse Free!  My son and I last weekend over a big wheat field! ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-692-438240-img_7580.jpeg) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/12/full-692-438241-img_7581.jpeg) My hunting “budget” will have the debt collectors following MY hearse. Main reasons I’ve never considered is I like to consider myself old school and also they seem way too long and cumbersome. I’ve recently gotten the impression they come off and on easily and that would be a game changer for me(just take it off when anybody is watching:))
Last edited by freerange; 12/03/24 02:25 PM.
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 02:48 PM
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For my basic hunting needs, I'll always hunt suppressed. AR-15 with night thermal, 308 Win and 300 blk out bolt gun, now 6mm CM tactical rifle, all suppressed. The only time I wouldn't go suppressed, is if I was on a hunt up in the mountains or somewhere I was going to be doing a lot of walking. I would go with a naked barrel to save weight and to have a rifle that carries easier on the back for those type of hunts. But otherwise, everything hunts suppressed.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:01 PM
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I’m probably still gonna try one some day but I feel y’all are selling the neat factor. I believe the animals not running as far at the shot is anecdotal. I’ve shot varmints with a 22 lr and 22 mag that are quieter than suppressed high power rifles and ended a hunt. My wife shot a doe this weekend at 55 yards with a 270. There were 18 deer before she fired and 16 of them never cleared out of the sendero and went back to eating. We called the truck so we didn’t have to run them off. I won’t argue less recoil isn’t better or less noise either, but I’m missing game changer.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:03 PM
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The only one that I hunt with regularly that ISNT suppressed is my tikka 270 WSM. It had a brake on it when I got it and I wasn’t able to take it off easily, so I just left it on. I don’t know what pitch it is or anything either. It shoots good, so I just left it alone and carry ear muffs with me.
But I’d much rather shoot a suppressed rifle.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:09 PM
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redchevy
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When shooting game at the 300-700 yard distances discussed above how much of that is due to the distance vs. the suppressor? We have stands that are less than 700 yards apart and a braked 7mm stw doesn’t make them run. Again not saying there is no benefit at all I do feel it’s being oversold as a game changer. Done doe hunts where hunters took 10 plus each in an evening or morning sit non suppressed.
I think the biggest reason I want one is for reducing muzzle blast noise and recoil for my kids.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:10 PM
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Red, you’re one of my favorites on here and your points all make sense. However, consider that a “game can change” because of a very small thing. Sometimes the difference between good and great can be a small thing. But all that has to do with changing the enjoyability mostly. 99% of time the deers gonna die either way. *I can see it being a game changer for enjoyability if you shoot a lot.*
At some point in life its time to quit chasing the pot of gold and just enjoy the rainbow. FR Keep your gratitude higher than your expectations. RWH
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:39 PM
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Red, you’re one of my favorites on here and your points all make sense. However, consider that a “game can change” because of a very small thing. Sometimes the difference between good and great can be a small thing. But all that has to do with changing the enjoyability mostly. 99% of time the deers gonna die either way. *I can see it being a game changer for enjoyability if you shoot a lot.* This When shooting game at the 300-700 yard distances discussed above how much of that is due to the distance vs. the suppressor? We have starts that are less than 700 yards apart and a braked 7mm stw doesn’t make them run. Again not saying there is no benefit at all I do feel it’s being oversold as a game changer. Done doe hunts where hunters took 10 plus each in an evening or morning sit non suppressed.
I think the biggest reason I want one is for reducing muzzle blast noise and recoil for my kids. ^^^AND MOST OF ALL THIS^^^ I drank the quiet KoolAide this year. Last week I took the 5 year old out to the range before our hunts and he was super comfortable and didn't flinch when we shot my .308 Bergara suppressed versus the .308 Tikka unsuppressed. He commented how loud the Tikka barked. I will take my Tikka to Colorado and maybe for Texas mule deer until I wear the barrel out. If we are shooting WT or pigs, the suppressed Bergara (it was factory threaded) will get the nod from here on out ESPECIALLY if any kids are with me.
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:42 PM
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Re: Hunting suppressed
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12/03/24 03:45 PM
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I'm part of the resistance for all the obvious reasons. Weight, length, another component to the [censored]'y............but most of all it's the need factor. I'm a one shot hunter. If I were getting into sounders at night, of course I'd be all over it. I have overcome recoil and muzzle rise with a brake on my 7mm Rem Mag. But, I have to wear ear plugs while I hunt with it. That rifle would get really cumbersome if I added a can, maybe adding 4" net after removing the brake and replacing with a 6" can.
In a recent thread that I can't find, there was mention that a suppressor was the most common contributing factor to cold bore inaccuracy. If this is true, how do you zero? Honest question from someone with zero experience on the subject. I shot my buck this past week at 345 yards, the next day a boar at 350. Both of these shots are typical of how I hunt, one and done. The cold bore is the only shot that matters. If I can get past this, I'll be getting closer to getting a can.
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