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Houston man in wheelchair fends off feral hog attack with airsoft gun #9144193 11/25/24 07:40 PM
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Re: Houston man in wheelchair fends off feral hog attack with airsoft gun [Re: JoeLampasas] #9144258 11/25/24 10:04 PM
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Bizarre story. Hogs typically don't just "attack" even if they have young.


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Originally Posted by Double Naught Spy
Bizarre story. Hogs typically don't just "attack" even if they have young.


Rutting boars will. They lose their minds and might charge anything. I used up one of my cat lives a few months ago with one.

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"Longtime Houston resident Carl White told KHOU 11 that dog, Moose, started barking to alert him to one of the wild animals, which have been terrorizing the area, even killing pets."

Sounds as if some Bud Light might be involved.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
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Bizarre story. Hogs typically don't just "attack" even if they have young.


Rutting boars will. They lose their minds and might charge anything. I used up one of my cat lives a few months ago with one.


Nope. Attacks are almost zero except for when people are messing with hogs.


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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
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Bizarre story. Hogs typically don't just "attack" even if they have young.


Rutting boars will. They lose their minds and might charge anything. I used up one of my cat lives a few months ago with one.


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Not sure that Boars really experience a 'rut' (as with deer) since they breed year 'round and Sows also come into estrous year 'round.

There does seem to be times of the year (spring and fall) when more breeding takes place, but it can normally be attributed to better overall conditions (abundance of food, favorable weather, etc).

As for Boars 'losing their minds', I've not experienced that in over 35 years of observing them, hunting them, trapping them, snaring them,

Some boars are simply more aggressive than others. A boar attending a sow in estrous (or one soon to be) might very well be protective. But a normal, solitary boar going about its business... is unlikely to pose a threat if unprovoked.


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I have had thousands of encounters with wild pigs and only once has one tried to get me for no reason other than the fact that he wanted to. Also had one stand his ground one morning when I was walking to my stand. He was standing in the middle of the road and forced me to walk around him or shoot him. I went around him but kept my pistol pointed at him the whole time. At one point there was less than 10' between us but he never gave an inch.

So if the guys story is true then based on my experience he will likely never experience that again in his life. Alot of people are in the path of "charging" Boars simply because the Boar has bad eyesight. People see it as a "charge" when the truth is the pig cant even see the person most of the time.

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Originally Posted by flintknapper
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Originally Posted by Double Naught Spy
Bizarre story. Hogs typically don't just "attack" even if they have young.


Rutting boars will. They lose their minds and might charge anything. I used up one of my cat lives a few months ago with one.


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Not sure that Boars really experience a 'rut' (as with deer) since they breed year 'round and Sows also come into estrous year 'round.

There does seem to be times of the year (spring and fall) when more breeding takes place, but it can normally be attributed to better overall conditions (abundance of food, favorable weather, etc).

As for Boars 'losing their minds', I've not experienced that in over 35 years of observing them, hunting them, trapping them, snaring them,

Some boars are simply more aggressive than others. A boar attending a sow in estrous (or one soon to be) might very well be protective. But a normal, solitary boar going about its business... is unlikely to pose a threat if unprovoked.



Yes they rut when a sow goes into heat so they rut several times a year. I shot one two nights ago in my front yard that was attacking any other boar in the area. When he ran out of other boars to fight, he attacked an 80 year old oak tree. I'd call that "losing his mind". There's a difference between watching them while your hunting and watching them from your home several hours a day/night, every day all year. Typical view here.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
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Bizarre story. Hogs typically don't just "attack" even if they have young.


Rutting boars will. They lose their minds and might charge anything. I used up one of my cat lives a few months ago with one.


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Not sure that Boars really experience a 'rut' (as with deer) since they breed year 'round and Sows also come into estrous year 'round.

There does seem to be times of the year (spring and fall) when more breeding takes place, but it can normally be attributed to better overall conditions (abundance of food, favorable weather, etc).

As for Boars 'losing their minds', I've not experienced that in over 35 years of observing them, hunting them, trapping them, snaring them,

Some boars are simply more aggressive than others. A boar attending a sow in estrous (or one soon to be) might very well be protective. But a normal, solitary boar going about its business... is unlikely to pose a threat if unprovoked.



Yes they rut when a sow goes into heat so they rut several times a year. I shot one two nights ago in my front yard that was attacking any other boar in the area. When he ran out of other boars to fight, he attacked an 80 year old oak tree. I'd call that "losing his mind". There's a difference between watching them while your hunting and watching them from your home several hours a day/night, every day all year. Typical view here.

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I have plenty of experience with Feral Hogs. Have the same thing in my pasture right behind the house. Run 6 game cameras on feeder sites year 'round and thousands of hours of video of hogs in a typical year.

I shoot them, trap them, snare them and occasionally allow someone with dogs to run them. Been doing that for over 30 years. So I have more than a rudimentary understanding of their typical behaviors.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/not-again-feral-hog-control-in-east-texas.449721/

Boar hogs are NEVER not looking for females in Estrous, nor are females induced to come into estrous during a certain 'season'. Both breed all year 'round, hence no 'rut'. You are simply misusing the term.

Boars fight all the time. They also mark trees and telephone poles with their cutters, nothing new there. Some are more aggressive than others, just like people. Again nothing new there. And how would you know the boar you cite was "rutting' and not the others? Doesn't really make sense.


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Rut - Increased testosterone levels

Increased aggression

Increased interest in females

Marking themselves with mud

Undergoing physiological changes

Performing characteristic displays

Coming out of cover

Chasing, courting, and guarding females

Making excursions outside of their home range

Moving at high rates

They rut several times a year because wild hogs are polyestrous . You are simply not understanding the term. Deer rut twice because doe's go into heat once and then about a month later, the un-bred ones go into heat again. They aren't deer and rut numerous times a year. Stop thinking of the term "Rut" as annual behavior and you will understand it better.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper


Rut - Increased testosterone levels
Except there is NO increase in testosterone levels. Mature boars are willing and able to breed an estrous sow throughout the year.

Increased aggression
Save for fighting other boars over an estrous sow (or one coming into heat) I see no indication of this.

Increased interest in females
What increase? Boars constantly seek out females, all year long, looking to cover any who are in estrous or about to be.

Marking themselves with mud
The most common reason hogs cover themselves with mud is NOT to 'mark' themselves, but to cool themselves and also rid themselves of parasites (mites,lice, fleas, etc) that become trapped in the mud and are removed when the hog rubs against a tree, pole/other.

Undergoing physiological changes
Please point out what physiological changes you think take place. 'Losing their minds'?

Performing characteristic displays
Such as increased or specific vocalizations, performing certain body movements, urinating on themsleves/etc? Nope, don't see this do we.

Coming out of cover
A boar will simply follow an estrous sow most places she will go....until she has been bred.

Chasing, courting, and guarding females
Boars always do this when there is an estrous female. Part of the breeding process if they are to be successful. Not an indication that the boar is 'rutting' (as in an increase in this behavior).

Making excursions outside of their home range
Boars have a tremendous range which is generally influenced by factors such as food/water sources, hunting pressure, population density, habitat suitability and the list goes on. But they are always in search of females. IF you are equating simple 'Breeding' with a "RUT" then boars are in a perpetual rut, yes?


The term 'rut' should not be used to describe 'breeding' (the act) but rather used to denote a time/condition distinctly different from other norms. You seek suggest that Feral Hogs go through multiple 'ruts' in a year rather than accept that they breed all year 'round with NO distinct changes in either sex driving procreation.

Yes, Sows are poly-estrous. So are human females. Would you submit the male of our species go through a defined 'rut'? (no jokes please). Or is it just fact that both species can successfully breed any time of year and that both species can act stupidly at times.



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A rut is a biological / psychological process. Not a time of year for several animals. You must have never been in a bar.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
A rut is a biological / psychological process. Not a time of year for several animals. You must have never been in a bar.


Humans don't rut, plain and simple. Drunk and horny isn't the same thing as a rut. You are treating analogy like homology.


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