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 375 Win loads
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redchevy
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I’ve posted a little about this rifle before. I was fortunate to snag 100 new starline brass as well a a box of Barnes Original 255 grainers for it. Looking forward to working something up for it.
Due to the age and lack of support/demand for the cartridge there is little in the way of supply for components or data and most all the data I can find is old. Majority of data is for Re7, 4198, 1680, which I have none of. I have found data for A5744 but I have a limited supply and have an intended purpose for it. So where I’m going with this is I have a decent amount of Lil’GUN which is pretty similar in burn rate to the recommended powders. In several listings I have looked at A5744 and Lil’GUN have very similar kin/max charge weights. I’m planning to reduce the A5744 max loads by 5% and proceed with caution. As A5744 is a know powder for reduced loads I wanted to stay away from the bottom end of its range.
Anyone have more/better data? Experience with the combo? Or thoughts?
Thanks
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Re: 375 Win loads
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I ran a powder profile for you on QuickLOAD. Some of the more ridiculous stuff, I edited out but there's still some real (IMO) noncontenders in the list. I wouldn't resort to anything promising a consumption proportion of less than 90%, but you may have to try something along those lines depending on your powder inventory. I use Re7 myself with 235-grain bullets. Oh---and it seems Barnes has made several variations of a 255-grain bullet. I just picked one and plugged it in...they're probably all pretty much the same, but that's only a guess on my part. I always include a disclaimer when I post anything ql has to say: this is NOT loading data, all these figures are computed solutions and QL is known to be off quite a bit on burn rates and sometimes just flat erroneous on certain cartridges. This does provide pretty good suggestions for powder choices, though. Cartridge : .375 Win.
Bullet : .375, 255, Barnes OrigFNSP.032 30496
Useable Case Capaci: 33.519 grain H2O = 2.176 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.560 inch = 65.02 mm
Barrel Length : 20.0 inch = 508.0 mm
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Winchester 296 84.5 28.0 1.82 2073 100.0 55000 4112 1.143
Hodgdon H335 108.0 36.4 2.36 2059 93.5 51481 4723 1.145
Alliant Reloder-7 106.3 31.8 2.06 2057 99.2 55000 4248 1.140
Alliant Reloder TS 11 *C *T 108.0 32.1 2.08 2056 99.5 53788 4204 1.133
Norma 200 *C 108.0 32.6 2.12 2054 99.0 50289 4448 1.176
Vihtavuori N125 *C 104.3 30.0 1.94 2044 100.0 55000 3847 1.137
Shooters World Socom 97.0 31.3 2.03 2035 97.1 55000 4249 1.140
Accurate 1680 97.0 31.3 2.03 2035 97.1 55000 4249 1.140
Lovex D063-01 97.0 31.3 2.03 2035 97.1 55000 4249 1.140
Shooters World Buffalo Rifle 93.8 27.1 1.76 2034 99.4 55000 4171 1.140
Accurate 5744 91.7 27.1 1.76 2034 99.4 55000 4171 1.140
Hodgdon H4227 101.1 28.6 1.85 2028 100.0 55000 3866 1.136
Hodgdon H110 85.5 28.3 1.84 2020 100.0 55000 3772 1.157
Lovex D063 88.5 28.5 1.85 2014 99.4 55000 3972 1.142
Shooters World Blackout 88.5 28.5 1.85 2014 99.4 55000 3972 1.142
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 84.8 27.2 1.76 2011 100.0 55000 3564 1.158
Vihtavuori N120 *C 108.0 30.5 1.97 2009 100.0 50474 3826 1.168
IMR 4227 99.7 28.2 1.83 2007 99.9 55000 3830 1.143
Hodgdon H4198 106.6 30.9 2.00 2007 95.6 55000 4094 1.145
Accurate No.11 FS 89.6 28.6 1.85 2001 100.0 55000 3690 1.150
IMR 4198 108.0 29.9 1.94 1997 98.8 49251 4091 1.174
Hodgdon CFE BLK *C 104.4 34.2 2.22 1992 90.8 55000 4217 1.158
Alliant Reloder-10x *C 108.0 31.5 2.04 1991 97.4 44686 4403 1.218
Shooters World Tactical Rifle 108.0 35.5 2.30 1989 89.0 51877 4294 1.166
Lovex D073.4 108.0 35.8 2.32 1976 90.0 47082 4398 1.202
Shooters World AR Plus 108.0 35.8 2.32 1976 90.0 47082 4398 1.202
Vihtavuori N110 *C 95.8 25.1 1.63 1950 100.0 55000 3247 1.171
Accurate 2230 108.0 36.1 2.34 1947 86.9 46197 4308 1.215
Accurate 4100 81.6 26.0 1.69 1946 100.0 55000 3273 1.171
Accurate 2460 108.0 35.9 2.33 1946 89.0 43287 4416 1.241
Alliant 2400 79.8 23.4 1.52 1944 100.0 55000 3243 1.171
Winchester 748 108.0 35.9 2.33 1944 87.3 42999 4542 1.235
Lovex D073.5 108.0 35.8 2.32 1939 88.8 42782 4401 1.248
Hodgdon H322 108.0 32.4 2.10 1939 92.4 42413 4374 1.241
Ramshot Enforcer 78.5 24.8 1.61 1935 100.0 55000 3197 1.178
Alliant Reloder-12 108.0 34.0 2.20 1931 92.7 43215 4285 1.238
Ramshot X-Terminator *C 108.0 35.6 2.31 1921 85.3 45462 4248 1.231
Vihtavuori N530 *C 108.0 33.6 2.17 1920 87.1 42607 4351 1.248
Lovex S040 85.8 23.6 1.53 1914 100.0 55000 3116 1.174
Accurate 2015 108.0 31.9 2.07 1912 95.2 39938 4221 1.281
Vihtavuori N130 *C 108.0 31.2 2.02 1912 96.5 42891 4034 1.254
Alliant AR-Comp *C *T 108.0 32.3 2.09 1899 96.0 36780 4408 1.300
Shooters World Heavy Pistol 70.5 23.3 1.51 1894 100.0 55000 3007 1.184
Accurate No.9 71.2 23.3 1.51 1894 100.0 55000 3007 1.184
Lovex D037.2 70.5 23.3 1.51 1894 100.0 55000 3007 1.184
Hodgdon Benchmark 108.0 32.9 2.13 1893 88.6 43625 4106 1.257
Accurate TCM 71.6 22.8 1.48 1878 100.0 55000 2931 1.188
Norma R123 73.5 22.7 1.47 1870 100.0 55000 2901 1.222
Alliant BLUE DOT 84.8 21.3 1.38 1868 100.0 55000 2918 1.194
Accurate 2520 108.0 35.2 2.28 1852 86.3 35350 4350 1.329
Shooters World Major Pistol 63.9 21.3 1.38 1851 100.0 55000 2806 1.202
Lovex D037.1 63.9 21.3 1.38 1851 100.0 55000 2806 1.202
Accurate No.7 63.9 21.3 1.38 1851 100.0 55000 2806 1.202
Hodgdon H4895 108.0 33.4 2.16 1847 83.1 36673 4253 1.323
Norma 202 *C 108.0 32.8 2.13 1833 88.0 35146 4202 1.341
Lovex S060 108.0 32.5 2.10 1824 83.8 40386 3895 1.305
Accurate 2495 108.0 32.6 2.12 1814 90.4 29148 4446 1.414
Shooters World Match Rifle 108.0 34.4 2.23 1803 84.8 32647 4220 1.373
Lovex D073.6 108.0 34.4 2.23 1803 84.8 32647 4220 1.373
Alliant POWER PISTOL 70.7 17.3 1.12 1802 100.0 55000 2706 1.216
Norma 201 *C 108.0 32.6 2.12 1799 83.9 34653 4081 1.370
Vihtavuori N133 *C 108.0 30.5 1.98 1797 92.5 35663 3797 1.345
IMR 3031 108.0 31.2 2.02 1792 88.1 31602 4214 1.390
Vihtavuori 3N38 80.1 20.2 1.31 1791 100.0 55000 2539 1.221
Vihtavuori N540 *C 108.0 33.7 2.19 1789 86.2 33261 4132 1.376
Vihtavuori N105 *C 81.5 19.7 1.28 1783 100.0 55000 2491 1.233
Somchem S221 61.6 19.9 1.29 1783 100.0 55000 2567 1.241
IMR 4895 108.0 33.4 2.16 1783 79.3 32745 4150 1.382
Vihtavuori N140 *C 108.0 32.7 2.12 1779 87.3 33664 3952 1.374
Alliant Reloder-15 *C 108.0 33.4 2.16 1757 77.7 32205 4012 1.397
Ramshot Big Game 108.0 35.5 2.30 1753 76.4 33785 3989 1.381
Norma 203B *C 108.0 33.4 2.16 1748 78.3 31484 4012 1.408
Hodgdon CFE223 *C 108.0 36.4 2.36 1746 73.8 33961 3993 1.382
Shooters World Auto Pistol 55.1 17.6 1.14 1734 100.0 55000 2412 1.245
Lovex D036 55.1 17.6 1.14 1734 100.0 55000 2412 1.245
Accurate No.5 55.1 17.6 1.14 1734 100.0 55000 2411 1.245
Shooters World Precision 108.0 32.5 2.10 1734 81.2 30625 3910 1.427
Lovex S062 108.0 32.5 2.10 1734 81.2 30625 3910 1.427
IMR 4320 108.0 32.8 2.13 1722 77.0 33214 3745 1.399
Hodgdon VARGET *T 108.0 32.3 2.09 1718 77.5 32762 3727 1.407
Hodgdon H380 108.0 34.1 2.21 1698 73.6 30386 3802 1.438
IMR 4064 108.0 31.5 2.04 1693 77.3 31107 3639 1.436
Hodgdon HS-6 59.7 18.2 1.18 1688 100.0 55000 2222 1.265
Accurate 4064 108.0 32.6 2.12 1683 82.7 24728 4058 1.522
Norma 203 old 108.0 33.7 2.19 1680 76.8 27445 3913 1.481
Vihtavuori 3N37 72.7 17.3 1.12 1673 100.0 55000 2186 1.274
Hodgdon Longshot 57.1 17.8 1.15 1672 100.0 55000 2173 1.273
Ramshot True Blue 56.5 17.7 1.15 1668 100.0 55000 2160 1.275
Winchester 540 55.7 17.7 1.15 1667 100.0 55000 2157 1.275
IMR 4166 Enduron *C*T 108.0 32.0 2.07 1667 71.8 32989 3420 1.435
Alliant HERCO 83.5 16.2 1.05 1664 100.0 55000 2197 1.290
Alliant Reloder TS 15.5 *C *T 108.0 32.0 2.07 1662 78.2 27170 3797 1.495
Vihtavuori N350 75.4 17.0 1.10 1659 100.0 55000 2130 1.278
IMR 4007 SSC 108.0 33.8 2.19 1652 68.9 30798 3484 1.457
IMR 4451 Enduron *C*T 108.0 33.0 2.14 1651 69.8 31267 3433 1.451
Vihtavuori N135 *C 108.0 30.3 1.96 1649 85.4 25991 3682 1.519
Alliant BULLSEYE 67.8 13.9 0.90 1639 100.0 55000 2156 1.292
Winchester WAP 61.9 16.6 1.08 1636 100.0 55000 2087 1.290
Ramshot Silhouette 61.6 16.6 1.07 1633 100.0 55000 2079 1.292
Alliant UNIQUE 75.3 15.0 0.97 1633 100.0 55000 2097 1.302
Accurate 2700 108.0 34.8 2.26 1626 68.5 31597 3260 1.460
Alliant Reloder-17 *T 108.0 35.0 2.27 1625 67.9 28261 3672 1.496
Winchester 760 108.0 35.3 2.29 1620 64.5 28862 3519 1.488
Hodgdon H414 108.0 35.3 2.29 1620 64.5 28862 3519 1.488
Shooters World Ultimate Pistol 48.0 14.6 0.95 1612 100.0 55000 2036 1.313
Vihtavuori N550 *C*T 108.0 34.1 2.21 1596 68.0 25776 3589 1.541
ReloadSwiss RS 20 74.1 15.4 1.00 1594 100.0 55000 1938 1.316
Lovex S035 81.2 15.6 1.01 1592 100.0 55000 1909 1.316
Hodgdon LVR 108.0 33.4 2.16 1590 67.0 26819 3437 1.528
Accurate No.2 70.0 14.3 0.93 1590 100.0 55000 1920 1.320
Vihtavuori N340 73.8 15.1 0.98 1587 100.0 55000 1911 1.318
Lovex S065 108.0 32.6 2.12 1575 68.9 25654 3351 1.556
Shooters World Long Rifle 108.0 32.6 2.12 1575 68.9 25654 3351 1.556
Vihtavuori N160 *C 108.0 34.1 2.21 1574 67.8 26851 3334 1.535
Lovex S030 68.8 14.8 0.96 1573 100.0 55000 1868 1.327
Lovex S020 67.9 14.6 0.95 1563 100.0 55000 1839 1.333
Hodgdon Universal 71.8 14.2 0.92 1563 100.0 55000 1894 1.343
Vihtavuori N150 *C 108.0 31.5 2.04 1558 75.1 24286 3360 1.584
Alliant Reloder-16 *C *T 108.0 32.5 2.11 1552 63.8 25385 3223 1.568
Vihtavuori N330 70.4 14.2 0.92 1538 100.0 55000 1787 1.350
Ramshot Zip 56.3 14.6 0.95 1537 100.0 55000 1802 1.347
Winchester 231 62.7 14.6 0.95 1537 100.0 55000 1802 1.347
IMR 4350 108.0 33.2 2.15 1536 63.2 26141 3084 1.564
Accurate Solo 1250 77.3 14.3 0.92 1535 100.0 55000 1769 1.345
Lovex S070 108.0 33.0 2.14 1533 64.7 24029 3241 1.598
Shooters World SW4350 108.0 33.0 2.14 1533 64.7 24029 3241 1.598
Norma URP *C 108.0 33.0 2.14 1532 65.1 23982 3313 1.598
Norma 204 *C 108.0 34.5 2.23 1522 58.5 26443 3051 1.565
Alliant GREEN DOT 78.4 13.5 0.88 1521 100.0 55000 1784 1.371
Ramshot Hunter 108.0 34.5 2.23 1518 61.0 24506 3186 1.596
Winchester 6,5 StaBall *T*C 108.0 35.9 2.33 1506 64.2 25706 2994 1.590
Hodgdon H4350 *T 108.0 32.6 2.12 1503 61.9 24759 2981 1.600
Alliant RED DOT 82.0 12.6 0.82 1498 100.0 55000 1739 1.376
Vihtavuori N320 72.2 13.1 0.85 1489 100.0 55000 1658 1.378
Accurate 4350 108.0 33.4 2.16 1471 62.1 21289 3234 1.682
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 108.0 32.3 2.09 1469 65.0 22511 3009 1.655
Norma R1 84.6 13.2 0.86 1456 100.0 55000 1614 1.404
Alliant Reloder-19 *C 108.0 33.4 2.16 1441 54.8 22322 2804 1.671
IMR 4831 108.0 32.0 2.07 1422 61.3 19920 2960 1.727
IMR 4955 Enduron *C*T 108.0 32.5 2.10 1414 54.8 22179 2634 1.689
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 101.0 15.6 1.01 1411 100.0 55000 1437 1.436
Winchester Supreme 780 108.0 35.2 2.28 1396 52.5 22711 2602 1.692
Hodgdon H4831 SC *T 108.0 33.7 2.19 1387 50.1 21911 2498 1.710
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Re: 375 Win loads
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11/06/24 06:11 PM
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Shooter's World Blackout and Accurate 1680 can be had if you're willing to buy on the web and pay shipping and hazmat. I have NO idea what's available in brick-n-mortar establishments.
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Re: 375 Win loads
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11/06/24 07:30 PM
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Thanks RR that’s a lot of data to look at!
I’ve never messed with QuickLoads before, when you say Consumption Proportion, is that the column titled Prop. Burned %?
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Re: 375 Win loads
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11/06/24 08:01 PM
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Your welcome Matt, and YES, that is what I meant. Only got about three hours sleep last night. Something happened! 
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Re: 375 Win loads
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11/13/24 02:25 PM
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Great to hear the 375 Win mentioned! I'm a fan, owned three of them, all Marlin's. Sold my last one a few years ago, too many rifles (yeah, you can have too many). I always shot a cast bullet of my design. Some 375 Win picture love! Took it mule deer hunting! ![[Linked Image]](http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/Hunting/2009/mule_deer.gif) ![[Linked Image]](http://ranchdogoutdoors.com/Firearms/375/images/375&3855_cartridges.jpg)
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Re: 375 Win loads
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11/13/24 02:31 PM
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Good looking mulie RD!
I can’t say I would have picked a 375 but it was an inherited rifle, I’ll never sell. I will have to do something with the factory Winchester sights, they are not playing well with my eyes. Once I have a stash of components and a load worked up I won’t mind it at all.
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Re: 375 Win loads
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11/13/24 04:42 PM
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5744 and IMR4227 are the powders I have used in the 375 Win. Don't remember the exact loads right now but could find if needed. When bullets were getting hard to find for it and needed some I switched to Hawk bullets for it and they have worked fine. I sold the Winchester several years ago but still shoot it in the Little Sharps.
For sights you might consider a ghost ring sight for it there are some that replace the rear sight or mount in the scope mount holes which I prefer for the longer sight radius. Had those on a Marlin Cowboy 1894 44 mag and they worked very well.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
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Re: 375 Win loads
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11/13/24 05:03 PM
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Thanks Kevin, I’ve got data for the 5744. I have the info RR so kindly shared above for the 4227 and I’ll have to dig in my phone but think some other as well. I do intent to give the Lil’GUN a whirl though. I hope to get around to it sooner than later, my goal is to kill a deer with it this year. Not pleased with how my current load is shooting and not 100% if it’s me the load or what. I do know I’ve been struggling with the sights plus doesn’t help my targets are black and so are the sights.
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Re: 375 Win loads
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11/15/24 03:44 AM
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Peep that replaces the rear sight some like. Had a peep that mounted at the scope mount holes on a Marlin 44 Mag and 45-70 that I really liked.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
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