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Any .250 Savage loaders? #9127448 10/25/24 05:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 42,394 Wolfe City, TX J.G. OP THF Celebrity
OP J.G. THF Celebrity Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 42,394 Wolfe City, TX	A friend handed me some brass and the dies. He said "I need some ammo". The brass got decapped, stainless tumbled, dried, annealed, sized, trimmed, primer pockets deburred. He doesn't want a full load development. And I don't have the rifle. Some searching showed me 100 gr bullets seem to be common, in loaded ammo. I will see if I can find some Sierra Game Kings. Hodgdon lists H-Varget as an option. I was hoping for some insight from those that have loaded for this cartridge before. If he'd pay for a load development, I could figure it out. I'm rolling the dice on the proper powder charge. .5 gr under maximum and hope for the best? 800 Yard Steel Range Precision Rifle Instruction Memberships and Classes Available

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9127452 10/25/24 06:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 10,660 Collin County/ Navarro County U unclebubba THF Celebrity
unclebubba THF Celebrity U Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 10,660 Collin County/ Navarro County	I'm surprised that you are doing it without at least minimal load development. Granted, you are 10000x more experienced at loading than I am, but, I'm still surprised. http://www.boatloan.com/michael-hunt/ Originally Posted by Nolanco current federal policy is clearly irrational, scientifically insupportable and ridiculous.

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9127464 10/25/24 06:26 PM
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 170 Pandora, Texas J JP4065 Woodsman
JP4065 Woodsman J Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 170 Pandora, Texas	Is this for a 99 Savage or a bolt gun? The 99 Savage has a 14 twist and the Remington bolt gun will have 10 twist. Factory ammo used to be 87gr bullets, but the 100gr will work. H4895 is a good powder for that, I ran the Varget through QuickLoad and it is very low on the recommended powders but if that is what you got then use it.

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: JP4065] #9127524 10/25/24 07:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 42,394 Wolfe City, TX J.G. OP THF Celebrity
OP J.G. THF Celebrity Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 42,394 Wolfe City, TX	Originally Posted by JP4065 Is this for a 99 Savage or a bolt gun? The 99 Savage has a 14 twist and the Remington bolt gun will have 10 twist. Factory ammo used to be 87gr bullets, but the 100gr will work. H4895 is a good powder for that, I ran the Varget through QuickLoad and it is very low on the recommended powders but if that is what you got then use it. I texted him asking. He said it is a 99. Then I said OK, that tells me what bullet weight to buy. Then he said, the load might be written down inside the box of dies. A load his dad came up with many decades ago. Then I went and opened the box of dies. I don't have that powder. But it is a very close burn rate to H-4350, which I do have. 800 Yard Steel Range Precision Rifle Instruction Memberships and Classes Available

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9127536 10/25/24 08:29 PM
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218 Bee Tracker 2 Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 946 Coleman County, Texas	My M70 carbine refuses to group anything much above 85-87 grains; JP4065 (and your client's Dad!) likely have the right of it. The ".250-3000" marketing morons of the day sure handicapped a great round by insisting on that velocity to boost sales. A faster twist and consistent performance with heavier bullets might have made this a favorite instead of an "also ran". "I always take care to fire into the nearest hillside and, lacking that, into darkness". - the late Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: 218 Bee] #9127561 10/25/24 09:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 42,394 Wolfe City, TX J.G. OP THF Celebrity
OP J.G. THF Celebrity Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 42,394 Wolfe City, TX	He just called me, telling me he can't find .250" bullets. I said "You've fallen victim of the marketing departments, like so many others do. Your bullet is actually. 257" in diameter." "284 Winchester" that's a 7mm bullet "280 Remington" that's a 7mm bullet "250 Savage that's a .257 bullet "257 Robert's that's a .257 bullet I've got the option of 87 gr Sierra Varminter or 87 gr Speer Hot-Cor. I don't have a ton of Hot-Cor experience, but I believe it is the better choice on hogs and whitetail. 218 Bee, They did screw up with the twist rate. And the cartridge fell by the wayside. The wildcat from it saw great success, as we all know. .22-250. I'm on my second barrel on that one. 800 Yard Steel Range Precision Rifle Instruction Memberships and Classes Available

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9127581 10/25/24 09:33 PM
Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 170 Pandora, Texas J JP4065 Woodsman
JP4065 Woodsman J Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 170 Pandora, Texas	Good deal, glad you found some more info. I believe the Hot Cor would be a better choice. Of all the P.O. Ackley improved cartridges the 250 Savage benefited from it the most. My Dad had a 250 Improved built when I was kid on a Sears and Roebuck (maybe Husqvarna) short action rifle with a Douglas barrel and a Unertl scope. I seen him take a coyote at a distance that I could not believe with that rifle(I thought it was a mile away lol). That was probably in the late 60's. Last edited by JP4065; 10/25/24 09:39 PM.

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9127624 10/25/24 11:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,154 Royse City J jlsbassman Veteran Tracker
jlsbassman Veteran Tracker J Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,154 Royse City	I have a pound of H414 that I probably won’t use.

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9127627 10/25/24 11:06 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,154 Royse City J jlsbassman Veteran Tracker
jlsbassman Veteran Tracker J Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,154 Royse City	That first pic was for a Savage 11 bolt action. This pic is for a Mauser 98 14 twist bolt action.

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9127648 10/25/24 11:38 PM
Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 5,397 Allen, TX S scottfromdallas THF Trophy Hunter
scottfromdallas THF Trophy Hunter S Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 5,397 Allen, TX	Originally Posted by J.G. He just called me, telling me he can't find .250" bullets. I said "You've fallen victim of the marketing departments, like so many others do. Your bullet is actually. 257" in diameter." "284 Winchester" that's a 7mm bullet "280 Remington" that's a 7mm bullet "250 Savage that's a .257 bullet "257 Robert's that's a .257 bullet I've got the option of 87 gr Sierra Varminter or 87 gr Speer Hot-Cor. I don't have a ton of Hot-Cor experience, but I believe it is the better choice on hogs and whitetail. 218 Bee, They did screw up with the twist rate. And the cartridge fell by the wayside. The wildcat from it saw great success, as we all know. .22-250. I'm on my second barrel on that one. Don’t have a 250 Savage but I have a 257 Roberts. I would agree the 87 Hot Cor is a better choice for deer and hogs. I have an old Speer reloading manual. Here is the data for that bullet.

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9127847 10/26/24 03:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,433 J jeffbird Extreme Tracker
jeffbird Extreme Tracker J Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 4,433	If you are changing bullets and changing the powder, the best way to help your friend and protect yourself is have him bring the rifle over. There are too many variables changing to make guesses, especially in an older rifle and a lever action at that. One of the hardest lessons for me to learn in business was learning to say no to some work or potential clients. His safety and your reputation and bank account are worth doing it the right way. One more vote for the Hot-Cor. fwiw - H414/Win 760 (same powder) is a handy powder to have on hand. It is the most accurate powder in my .260 with 100 grain Barnes TTSX.

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9127966 10/26/24 09:06 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 9,822 Wise Co. R RiverRider THF Trophy Hunter
RiverRider THF Trophy Hunter R Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 9,822 Wise Co.	The whole point when the cartridge was developed was to achieve 3000 fps, hence the name ".250-3000." That was the marketing that succeeded in those days. In order to achieve 3000 fps they cut the bullet weight down to 87 grains. That's how the 87-grain weight for .257" bullets came to be in the first place. If modern slower burning powders had been available in those days the 87-grain bullet may not have come into being at all. "Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9127968 10/26/24 09:21 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 9,822 Wise Co. R RiverRider THF Trophy Hunter
RiverRider THF Trophy Hunter R Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 9,822 Wise Co.	Originally Posted by J.G. He just called me, telling me he can't find .250" bullets. I said "You've fallen victim of the marketing departments, like so many others do. Your bullet is actually. 257" in diameter." "284 Winchester" that's a 7mm bullet "280 Remington" that's a 7mm bullet "250 Savage that's a .257 bullet "257 Robert's that's a .257 bullet I've got the option of 87 gr Sierra Varminter or 87 gr Speer Hot-Cor. I don't have a ton of Hot-Cor experience, but I believe it is the better choice on hogs and whitetail. 218 Bee, They did screw up with the twist rate. And the cartridge fell by the wayside. The wildcat from it saw great success, as we all know. .22-250. I'm on my second barrel on that one. If you have any Re15 on hand, try 37.5 grains with the 87-grain Hot-Cor. That load is courtesy of Mr. John Barsness. "Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9128487 10/28/24 12:36 AM
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eyedoc Bird Dog E Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 394	41.0 imr 4350 75 gr Hornady hollow pt, has worked well in my 99, have shot a few deer with it, works well

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: JP4065] #9139910 11/17/24 01:23 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,790 bastrop county C colt45-90 Texas colt45
colt45-90 Texas colt45 C Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 11,790 bastrop county	Originally Posted by JP4065 Is this for a 99 Savage or a bolt gun? The 99 Savage has a 14 twist and the Remington bolt gun will have 10 twist. Factory ammo used to be 87gr bullets, but the 100gr will work. H4895 is a good powder for that, I ran the Varget through QuickLoad and it is very low on the recommended powders but if that is what you got then use it. the early 99's were slow twist, later they change to 1-10, the remy cor loct 100gr shoots very well, I quite reloading, but kept some 250 brass that I cold part with p.s. if you have the early 99 use Siera 87gr , ck ken waters pet loads for data AND don't mean to high jack the thread, but I do have some 250's 99's for sale Last edited by colt45-90; 11/17/24 01:24 AM. hold on Newt, we got a runaway

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: colt45-90] #9140038 11/17/24 01:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 42,394 Wolfe City, TX J.G. OP THF Celebrity
OP J.G. THF Celebrity Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 42,394 Wolfe City, TX	I am sure he would appreciate more brass. I'd be happy to buy it from you, if you'd ship it. He's the only one I know with this cartridge. The dies I'm going to use are also his, passed down from his dad. 800 Yard Steel Range Precision Rifle Instruction Memberships and Classes Available

Re: Any .250 Savage loaders? [Re: J.G.] #9140051 11/17/24 01:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 3,682 In the Right lane D DStroud Extreme Tracker
DStroud Extreme Tracker D Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 3,682 In the Right lane	Here is some up to date data if that helps. I have killed a lot of deer with Speer Hot Core bullets mostly in 7x57mm Last edited by DStroud; 11/17/24 01:34 PM. "Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married." Jack O'Connor 1963

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