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Remington/Browning A5 1935 12ga from Belgium #9120624 10/11/24 04:46 PM
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Re: Remington/Browning A5 1935 12ga from Belgium [Re: RAM Outdoor] #9120857 10/12/24 01:57 AM
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Remington Model 11


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Re: Remington/Browning A5 1935 12ga from Belgium [Re: RAM Outdoor] #9120945 10/12/24 11:25 AM
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I didn't know there were any Remington model 11's made in Belgium. I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks. Good luck with the sale sir!

Re: Remington/Browning A5 1935 12ga from Belgium [Re: RAM Outdoor] #9120962 10/12/24 12:32 PM
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Remington Model 11 built using the browning patent.
I'm sure these were ever made in belguim

Re: Remington/Browning A5 1935 12ga from Belgium [Re: RAM Outdoor] #9121044 10/12/24 03:51 PM
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Re: Remington/Browning A5 1935 12ga from Belgium [Re: RAM Outdoor] #9121061 10/12/24 04:41 PM
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The Remington model 11s were never made in Belgium. Remington used the original safety patent on their shotguns for awhile. FN changed from this style safety pretty early like 1905 maybe. Either way FN never made shotguns for Remington.

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By all rights, the Auto-5 should have been made by Winchester. After all, John Browning designed much of the gun under Winchester’s roof in New Haven, Conn. But Winchester’s refusal to pay Browning royalties for the design precipitated a notorious falling-out between the parties, so Browning left Winchester with his Auto-5 design under his arm. He ended up at Fabrique Nationale in Belgium. FN began manufacturing the gun in 1903, but it wasn’t officially imported into the United States until 1923. However, many examples apparently made it across the Atlantic soon after the gun was introduced.

Thus, the first Browning-designed humpback officially sold in the United States wasn’t the Browning Auto-5. It was the Remington Model 11, a near-knockoff of the Auto-5 that was produced under license from Browning from 1911 to 1948. In 1930, another officially licensed Auto-5 clone appeared: the Savage Model 720. Finally, in the 1970s, two other Auto-5 clones were rolled out: the Auto Pointer, made by the Yamamoto Co. of Tokyo, and the Herter's SL-18, made by The Pine Co., also of Japan.

It’s confession time. In terms of shooting qualities, I cannot tell any difference between a Belgian Auto-5, a Japanese Auto-5, a Remington 11, a Savage clone or an Auto Pointer. I’ve shot them all, and they all do well for me. We will pause a moment while Browning collectors gnash their teeth and rend their garments. Sorry! The cachet of the “Belgium Browning” has always seemed more imaginary than factual to me. In fact, the best-shooting humpback I’ve fired was a Savage 745, the alloy-receiver variant of the Model 720. The Belgian guns are superb, of course, but the beauty of an Auto-5 is in its design, not the maker’s name engraved or roll-stamped on it. Purists sniff and snort about “Japanese Brownings” and barely acknowledge the existence of the Remingtons, the Savages or, God forbid, the Auto Pointers. Shame on them.


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Re: Remington/Browning A5 1935 12ga from Belgium [Re: RAM Outdoor] #9122402 10/15/24 03:49 PM
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Re: Remington/Browning A5 1935 12ga from Belgium [Re: Fishermen0105] #9124516 10/19/24 06:00 PM
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That was what I was thinking!

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