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What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 03:18 PM
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If parents of kids can be charged with the crimes of their children in regard to shooting up a school, which I can understand to some degree, what keeps any individual with guns in their house from being charged with the same crime if someone goes into your house and uses a gun they stole from you from being charged?
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
[Re: BenBob]
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09/09/24 03:43 PM
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Key word there I believe is “stole.”
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 03:45 PM
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There would be a lot of normal people in jail
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
[Re: BenBob]
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09/09/24 03:46 PM
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Indeed. There is an expectation that they are locked up. If you don't have kids, your house is locked, and someone breaks in, then there should not be the ability to charge the owner. If you do have kids, the house being locked isn't enough -- they need to be locked away from the children.
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
[Re: BenBob]
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09/09/24 04:17 PM
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Commit a crime to get the gun = Off the hook.
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 05:38 PM
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
[Re: BenBob]
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09/09/24 06:01 PM
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If you have firearms WELL secured, you would be safe. Secured does not mean out of sight on top of refrigerator or under a mattress.
If the 2nd amendment was written just to include guns for hunting, why is there not an amendment to protect fishing poles?
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 06:06 PM
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Parents know if their kids F'ed up. This gay guy's mom knew it and warned the Police who did nothing, should the police chief be indicted?
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 06:51 PM
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Parents know if their kids F'ed up. This gay guy's mom knew it and warned the Police who did nothing, should the police chief be indicted? "At the time, there was no probable cause for an arrest or to take any additional law enforcement action on the local, state or federal levels." You think they should have disregarded the constitution and it's amendments?
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 07:14 PM
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We knew a kid who went to school with my oldest son all through school and even in daycare when they were infants. We knew their family well for many years. In high school, this kid was one that would change clothes to be a female and changed it's name to a female name. The parents had no clue about it either. (the fruit cake teacher that wore a dress was the teacher that also had the LBGT club to allow students to change their clothes at school, LINK and LINK) If there was ever going to be a school shooter, this kid was it. It was a broken family and the dad was a real piece of work too. He took the kid to the range multiple times to shoot AR's and handguns. He even bought him an AR and a Glock 9mm. There's no doubt, that if there was a shooting, the dad should be just as responsible as the kid. I never understood it. I told my son to keep him on your good side and be friendly to him, no matter what. I was glad to see they graduated without incident.
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 07:21 PM
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They would probably charge you in California.
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 07:51 PM
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its lame they are charging the Dad did y'all ever buy your kids a firearm?
the LEO & FBI blew it on this one & they are looking for someone to blame
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 08:49 PM
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its lame they are charging the Dad did y'all ever buy your kids a firearm?
the LEO & FBI blew it on this one & they are looking for someone to blame
If the FBI comes to your house and talks to you about your kid, guns, and threats, and then you buy that same kid an AR and let him have unsupervised access to it, you deserve EVERYTHING that's coming your way.
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 08:49 PM
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its lame they are charging the Dad did y'all ever buy your kids a firearm?
the LEO & FBI blew it on this one & they are looking for someone to blame
If the FBI comes to your house and talks to you about your kid, guns, and threats, and then you buy that same kid an AR and let him have unsupervised access to it, you deserve EVERYTHING that's coming your way. Absolutely!
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 08:52 PM
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its lame they are charging the Dad did y'all ever buy your kids a firearm?
the LEO & FBI blew it on this one & they are looking for someone to blame
If the FBI comes to your house and talks to you about your kid, guns, and threats, and then you buy that same kid an AR and let him have unsupervised access to it, you deserve EVERYTHING that's coming your way. Absolutely! Agree 1000%.
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
[Re: butch sanders]
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09/09/24 08:55 PM
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its lame they are charging the Dad did y'all ever buy your kids a firearm?
the LEO & FBI blew it on this one & they are looking for someone to blame
“The text messages reviewed by the Post also reveal that the school and the family were discussing Colt's mental state a week before the shooting. Moreover, in a communication with a family member, Brown disclosed that the teenager was contending with "homicidal and suicidal thoughts" during that period.“ So after this, it’s law enforcement who blew it by not making an arrest with no probable cause rather than the dad who didn’t lock up the guns? Not saying dad should have been charged but if we’re laying blame sounds like dad blew it to me. Mom, the meth and fentanyl possessor, warned the school 30 minutes before the shooting and the school got the shooter and another kid mixed up and confiscated the other kids backpack. I guess they aren’t to blame either. https://www.newsweek.com/colt-gray-new-details-mom-warned-georgia-school-shooting-1950510
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
[Re: butch sanders]
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09/09/24 08:57 PM
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its lame they are charging the Dad did y'all ever buy your kids a firearm?
the LEO & FBI blew it on this one & they are looking for someone to blame
Who gives their 13–14-year-old kid an AR15, and doesn't control the access to the AR15? This was a parenting disaster.
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/09/24 10:29 PM
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Common sense...which sadly is slipping away...
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/10/24 12:57 AM
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/10/24 01:13 AM
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wow so you want the FBI telling you about weapon purchases ? I tried to purchase a rifle at Academy, I was sent paperwork for a background check, with a man from Rochester, Minnesotas info. Finger prints, SS# , birth certificate everything . Cheers
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/10/24 01:17 AM
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Butch, you could not buy a clue if each member on here donated you $100. Shut up...
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/10/24 01:21 AM
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wow so you want the FBI telling you about weapon purchases ? I tried to purchase a rifle at Academy, I was sent paperwork for a background check, with a man from Rochester, Minnesotas info. Finger prints, SS# , birth certificate everything . Cheers On the TFF, you claim guns can be purchased over the internet without a background check. Now, over here, you’re stirring the pot complaining about the background check process. We don’t need your trolling over here, too.
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/10/24 01:23 AM
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There were so many mistakes on this one. I don't know the details but if the dad bought his kid an AR after the fbi talked to them then what an absolutely stupid thing to do, almost like he wanted it to happen. I can't tell anyone else what to do with their stuff but I do my best to make sure a thief or a kid can't get access to my firearms. It's not 100% secure but I try my best.
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/10/24 01:24 AM
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If parents of kids can be charged with the crimes of their children in regard to shooting up a school, which I can understand to some degree, what keeps any individual with guns in their house from being charged with the same crime if someone goes into your house and uses a gun they stole from you from being charged? Because parents are, to some degree, responsible for the conduct of their children, whereas a typical individual has no responsibility for the conduct of an unrelated criminal.
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Re: What Keeps Any Gunowner From Being Charged?
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09/10/24 01:25 AM
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wow so you want the FBI telling you about weapon purchases ? I tried to purchase a rifle at Academy, I was sent paperwork for a background check, with a man from Rochester, Minnesotas info. Finger prints, SS# , birth certificate everything . Cheers Interesting, since the paperwork and background check is done at the point of purchase.
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