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What's Next
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05/26/24 10:07 PM
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Brother in-law
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No problems with my 6.8 spc in my ar platform. Buddy and I were talking about what we might look into next as it's getting second fiddle to newer rounds and has gone up to $30 plus a box
Blackout? Arc flavor?
Would prefer to walk into Academy and buy ammo off the shelf.
Must shine in a 16" barrel
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Re: What's Next
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#9052760
05/26/24 10:19 PM
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Big Fitz
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Not sure if any of the newer cartridges will be any cheaper.
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#9052775
05/26/24 10:47 PM
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J.G.
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Start hand loading if $1.50 a round bothers you.
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Re: What's Next
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#9052797
05/26/24 11:28 PM
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Greg
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Been thinking about a blackout simply because of the wait times on suppressors. I’d like to have a quiet shorty in that caliber.
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05/26/24 11:30 PM
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GasGuzzler
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$1.50 per round bothers me as a hand loader.
Pass the gravy.
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05/27/24 12:12 AM
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BigPig
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22ARC is interesting in an AR platform.
Nothing else is really appealing to me in the AR platform
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Re: What's Next
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#9052875
05/27/24 01:11 AM
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JG is right, hand loading is the way to go. I had to do that for my Grendel. But heck, I was a reloader already anyway. I think my per round cost for this caliber is about 65 cents each.
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#9052884
05/27/24 01:31 AM
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scot
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No SBR lower options? Running a thermal? And I assume suppressed?
I’m running a 8.5” 300blk on an amnesty lower. It’s killed everything I’ve shot at with super sonic ammo. However, after reading far too much, I picked up a second ar in 6.5 Grendel. 12” barrel so it is still extremely handy with the suppressor. 6.5 G seems to essentially maximize the AR-15 magazine size and puts out an extremely similar numbers to 300hamr on a more widely accepted round.
Assume this will be to run a thermal and if that is the case the SBA3 pistol brace is more than sufficient as you don’t typically need a ton of eye relief and you can save $200 on a stamp.
I don’t know if either of those options would do significantly different than the 6.8spc unless ammo is getting harder to find. Academy has multiple 6.5 Grendel loads but they are all $30 per box. Online prices are closer to $25 a box but shipping is an issue.
If you have no interest in going shorter than 16” the Ruger SFAR is the answer. It handles like an AR-15 but you are easily getting 1.5x-twice the energy of all ar-15 options. Accuracy isn’t outstanding but minute of pig accuracy for sure. And you then have a 500 yard rifle. Ammo is the same price. And if you run a 10 round mag you won’t notice the weight difference between the rounds.
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#9053140
05/27/24 05:29 PM
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duffas
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BO is great if you reload, light to heavy bullets, slow or fast. Any centerfire ammo is not cheap anymore. They work good. Just one of mine. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/05/full-71986-421387-close_pig.jpg)
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#9053177
05/27/24 06:56 PM
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hopalong
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plinker or hunter?
my go to pig/yote gun is now my 300 bo sbr, 10.5" with thermal/suppressor, comes out to about 18" I think for total barrel length.
for beaver/smaller critters and plinking I built a .17 hmr with a pr. of barrels, 16" and an sbr with an 11" also suppressed with holo red dot sight. it will get a thermal some day.
while the .300 ammo is not cheap it is the best option for subsonic I have found.
the .17 is cheap and fun to shoot, would probably do a pig with a good head shot.
my only other caliber is the 5.56 and I only shoot the 62gr. green tip lap in it, I have it in 16" and an sbr with 10.5", thermal/suppressor.
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#9053180
05/27/24 07:09 PM
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Buzzsaw
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ARC
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#9053187
05/27/24 07:17 PM
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ntxtrapper
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I have killed a lot of animals with my Blackouts.
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Re: What's Next
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#9053189
05/27/24 07:33 PM
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If a key criteria is readily-available on the shelf ammo then this eliminates a few up-and-coming cartridges, specifically the 22ARC, 6ARC, 300 HAM'R or even a 20 Practical / Tactical. If you reloaded then this wouldn't be any issue. Yes, you can find ammo on-line from niche suppliers.
6.5 Grendel is a solid option, but your 6.8SPC is very close in performance so no real advantage.
I am a fan of the 300BO in various configuration and barrel lengths. I would not recommend going shorter than 10" barrel. Like most things in life, the extra 2" provides a meaningful increase in performance over a 8" barrel. The only other consideration for barrel length is determine the intended purpose home defense (short barrel) or hunting (longer barrel if plan to shoot off a rest or window seal in a blind).
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Re: What's Next
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05/27/24 10:48 PM
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Brother in-law
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05/27/24 11:24 PM
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Not building anything but bought an Sig Cross PRS in .308 to tinker with.
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#9053274
05/27/24 11:52 PM
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Come get one of my Hamr’s for a weekend…positive side, Bill keeps ammo for you non-loaders  It hits harder than a 6.8 in my opinion and my pig hunting buddy’s, he built one after watching mine and is selling his 6.8.
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#9053296
05/28/24 12:44 AM
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If 16” is what you’re wanting don’t go 300BO there are so many other calibers out there the beat it in a 16” hell I think the 5.56 is pretty close out of 16”. Now if you’re wanting a shorty 9” or below then I’d say 300BO.
Why not buy you a BCM lower and SBR they biatch and get it back in about a week then get a 8” 300BO upper. Throw your thermal on and boom.
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#9053307
05/28/24 01:17 AM
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Brother in-law
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I have a sbr I don’t use and a few more. I find myself using most of a 15” hand guard. I could go 12” sbr and probably be aight
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#9053326
05/28/24 02:33 AM
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I have a sbr I don’t use and a few more. I find myself using most of a 15” hand guard. I could go 12” sbr and probably be aight I’ve got a 12inch 6.5G with as long as hand guard as possible, coming from a 15 inch hand guard on a patrol rifle it’s quite the change, but so much easier to maneuver. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/05/full-15111-421433-img_8584.jpeg)
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05/28/24 02:50 AM
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All the AR15 sized hunting rounds are $30 a box. AR15 is the king of creating rounds that lose flavor in a few years. Its become rather ridiculous since the Grendel and 6.8 spc were released,
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#9053374
05/28/24 09:03 AM
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hopalong
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I have a sbr I don’t use and a few more. I find myself using most of a 15” hand guard. I could go 12” sbr and probably be aight I’ve got a 12inch 6.5G with as long as hand guard as possible, coming from a 15 inch hand guard on a patrol rifle it’s quite the change, but so much easier to maneuver. I think this one will fit over the suppressor, Inside Diameter 1.75 Inches https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021157914
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05/28/24 11:15 AM
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I just enjoy my regular old 5.56
Even more since Hornady started making 50-round packs of 55-grain soft point that are great for hunting and very accurate target shooting in every AR I've tested them in so far, and they're $40 for a box of 50. I'm a reloader but it's not worth my time for 80 cents a pop.
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05/28/24 12:29 PM
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Just set up to load! Loading for game vs. precision is a piece of cake and, excluding brass prep, can be done very quickly yet still be better than off the shelf stuff. Go in on a setup with your buddy, between the two of you, you can load enough in one evening to last a season and take a big chunk out of what you paid for the equipment with what you saved.
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05/28/24 04:00 PM
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hopalong
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I just enjoy my regular old 5.56
Even more since Hornady started making 50-round packs of 55-grain soft point that are great for hunting and very accurate target shooting in every AR I've tested them in so far, and they're $40 for a box of 50. I'm a reloader but it's not worth my time for 80 cents a pop. I may try some of those, my preferred is the green tip, have had 3 doubles on pigs shot at about 85-125 yds. out of the 16".
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