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Re: First hand Bergara opinions
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02/15/24 01:31 PM
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![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/HxejbWN.jpg) Clearly this is not a one hole rifle but this was the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds through the rifle new. To say it can’t compete with tikka when running hand loads doesn’t seem like a reasonable assessment. If you buddy has never owned a bolt action rifle I can’t imagine he would be able to tell the difference between a 1/2moa rifle and a 1 1/2 moa rifle. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/OOkRUht.jpg) No one would ever recommend a rem 700 for accuracy but here is a comparable group to the tikka group posted above with a factory rem 700.
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Re: First hand Bergara opinions
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02/15/24 02:16 PM
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My B14 Hunter 6.5CM shoots mickey mouses with Hornady 143 ELDS. The only caveat is I have to clean it at @ 50 rounds or it starts to stray a bit.
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Re: First hand Bergara opinions
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02/15/24 02:46 PM
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I shopped SS 24" CTR v HMR and bought the Tikka, but I bought it for two reasons. First, this was going to be both a hunting and a target rifle (weight) and second, I'd heard a few rumblings about HMR accuracy. I'd never heard anything negative about CTR accuracy. Bone stock, unaltered trigger, with a Bushnell ET 6-24x50 and Chad's Speedmoor ammo, I finished 3rd at the 2019 Hunter's Shoot. Could the HMR have done that? Maybe, but I won't ever doubt Tikka. The HMR is a better value if the stock and weight are what you want. My CTR will shoot 5-shot cloverleafs with either Chad's or Hornady's 143gr. I liked it so much I also bought a 20" SS CTR. ![[Linked Image]](https://live.staticflickr.com/792/41462113152_8698f2f775_w.jpg) Yeah...I tried to talk him into a Tikka. He just really likes the stock on the Bergara. Problem is even if I did talk him into a Tikka, there's no remotely affordable stock upgrade solution...the unique bottom metal and mag prohibits it to my knowledge. So it's a really tough sell. My Tikka shoots about like yours with my handloads. Just stupidly accurate. A joy to run to be perfectly honest. I've picked up two McMillan stocks for CTRs, both under $600 shipped. Just gotta watch the Hide or LRH and pounce when they show up. Granted, you have to take the paint scheme the original owner picked. At that point he's into it $1500+...just doesn't have that kind of budget. He's never owned a bolt action. Personally if that's the kind of accuracy folks are getting out of Bergara (mostly 1" but not a ton less), I'd consider telling him to save his money and go with a Savage for a while. The Bergara groups, while good, don't look any better than a $400 Savage and definitely don't look as tight as my or your Tikka CTR ETA: do those $600 stocks include new bottom metal and mags, or are they CTR-compatible? They are inlet for CTR bottom metal, so no additional expense. I did see a B&C for $325 but it would likely be pretty heavy, negating one advantage of the CTR over the HMR.
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Re: First hand Bergara opinions
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02/15/24 02:54 PM
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I have the wilderness ridge and have been pleased with it. I did drop a triggertech in it as I really wanted a lower poundage option. I bought 130gr 6.5 prc ammo from Chad here and that is all that has been down the tube. Those are shooting about .75 at 100. Very smooth action. I have always liked the 700 style safety. I like that it is a 700 platform so lots of options if I decide to modify it.
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Re: First hand Bergara opinions
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02/15/24 02:55 PM
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When someone is bringing me a Bergara for load development, it doesn't stir up bad thoughts for me. They typically shoot well. Sako/Tikka of course makes me think "it's going to be a good day". Christensen always makes me dread the day, trying to polish a turd.
I've got a Bergara 6.5 PRC here. I'll let you know how it shakes out. I am sure everything is going to be fine.
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Re: First hand Bergara opinions
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02/15/24 05:13 PM
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Get the Bergara barreled action and choose your pick of Manners stocks. Quality, made in the free world, American made stock probably the best stocks on the planet. Manners customer service is second to none. They refinished a stock i bought secondhand free of charge. https://www.bergara.online/en/blog/the-bergara-barrelled-action/
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Re: First hand Bergara opinions
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02/15/24 07:10 PM
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As far as 6.5 CM ammo, I’ve had three different rifles (Ruger, Savage, Tikka), and all would shoot factory Hornady 143 ELD-X into very small groups. It’s been as close to a plug-and-play ammo as I’ve seen in 40+ years of hunting.
I've found the ELD-X to shoot very tight in all my rifles with one exception. For some reason, my Winchester Model 70 Featherweight doesn't group near as well with it. Oddly, it shoots 1/2 MOA with relatively inexpensive, Remington 100-grain, Corlokts. Winchester 125-grain Deer Season XP is another tight shooter in all by 6.5 CM rifles.
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Re: First hand Bergara opinions
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02/15/24 09:35 PM
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10-4. Thanks all. I'll tell him to stick with the Bergara if that's the direction he wants to go. He asked for scope recommendations also and I think I have him covered pretty well there.
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Re: First hand Bergara opinions
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02/17/24 07:11 PM
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I have two Bergara B-14 Ridge rifles (7-08 and 30-06). Both consistently produce sub-1/2 inch groups with my handloads.
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Re: First hand Bergara opinions
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02/19/24 03:35 PM
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I have a Bergara B-14 HMR in .308, love it. Accurate, great trigger, smooth action, and it fits me great. The adjustability of the HMR stock is fantastic. I hunt with it and shoot it off the bench, it's perfect for both. About 300 rounds down the barrel, and I don't know if barrel break-in is fact or fiction, but my Bergara started running even smoother after 200 rounds. Some folks think it's too heavy for hunting, but 95% of my hunting is from a blind so I don't mind taking a 12lb scoped rifle.
One thing to note, make sure the action screws are torqued to spec. Mine came from the factory several pounds shy of spec. I didn't check the screws, took it to the range, and had a hard time getting a group under 1 MOA at 100 yards. I ran some patches down the barrel, torqued everything, and the rifle now shoots 1/2 MOA at 100 yards if I do my part.
I was between Bergara and Tikka, and went the Begara route. I'm happy I did, I really like the HMR stock. You can't go wrong with Tikka or Bergara in my opinion.
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