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The lease
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01/03/24 12:52 AM
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Creekrunner
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Juan’s Place. That’s what I came to call it over the years, even though its proper name was Block Creek Ranch, named by the “Goat King” of Texas, Juan’s grandfather, long before many along the road called Old No. 9, and FM 1376, used “Block Creek” in the names of their parcels. I heard about the place from Dad and my brother Gary, when I was around 16/17, that’d be approximately 1977. They’d been to look at the ranch for a deer lease. Juan’s mother (who then owned the place) was showing it in her pickup. Gary rode in the bed and Dad rode in the cab of the pickup. It was +/- 3200 acres, about 4.5 miles north of Sisterdale. About half-way around the ranch, Dad told Gary to ride up front and he’d ride in the bed. It didn’t take Gary too long to figure out why. The lady driving didn’t use deodorant, and, it’d obviously been quite a while since she’d had a shower. We leased the place and opened it up to a few close employees at our company, to pay their own way. It was a magical time. Dad brought his brother a couple of times, and, even though Dad worried incessantly about how much he’d talk (we’re a family of talkers), everybody loved Johnny. Our service manager, who is (he’s still alive at 96+) THE toughest man I have ever met in my life, would shoot his limit opening weekend and proceed to bitch for a year about the price. Not many folks realize how rough it can be just north of Boerne, with extremely deep canyons, steep canyons cut into the hills, and places with names like Boot Leg Springs and Ghost Canyon. Many of my most cherished hunting memories are from being on that place. We lost it for a few years, to a corporate entity with lots of cash. Dad passed during that time and our family was rocked. By that time I was working at the family business. Gary had preceded me there by many years. He told me to “Go find a lease.” The first thing I did was go see Juan’s mom. She told me to contact Juan, since he now owned the ranch. The corporation that had got it from us had shot up the place and broken so many rules that Juan was ready for a change. We leased it again, as a corporate lease, taking our customers, some fantastic, some not-so-fantastic, and had many more great times. I left the place when we sold the company. Others stayed on it, privately, including my brother and our General Manager, who was like another brother to us, for many more years. The ranch was sold, in 2019, busted up in to 300-400 acre parcels. The General Manager friend sent me this picture of the last evening as they got their stuff off the place. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/01/full-40213-409860-lastleasepic.jpg) (The guy can frame a picture.) I saw Juan’s mom, when I was there with my mom, several years ago, outside the business she’d operated for many years in Fredericksburg. My mom and her had had a connection, both having “damaged” children. Mom’s by a doctor’s forceps, Juan’s mom’s by the 60’s. Juan’s mom was elderly, and I know, as we said goodbye, that she was confusing me with one of her kids. (She’d always been interested in my “artistic side”, music, etcetera). She was a square-head, definition-of-stoic, cast out from “proper Fredericksburg society”, old German lady. But she said “I love you.” And I told her that I loved her too. And I did. ‘Funny what a darn deer lease can bring into your life.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981385
01/03/24 01:12 AM
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skinnerback
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Great story and picture. Good stuff. 
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981386
01/03/24 01:13 AM
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txtrophy85
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For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981391
01/03/24 01:32 AM
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tlk
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great story on your lease. I have been on my lease 15 years and am now 70 years old. Funny how the need to kill a trophy buck each year tends to fade as we fade. But I still pay to hunt this lease and enjoy others as they or their children take beautiful bucks. I am happy just to get away to the ranch and sit in a blind and enjoy nature. Also love having my grandkids out to teach them all about hunting (funny how trapping an 18 year old for 3 hours in a stand so that they have to listen to what Poppa T tells them is priceless. Have taught lots of lessons to my kids and grandkids while hunting for deer. Life is good! ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/01/full-47343-409865-img_3939_1.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/01/full-47343-409866-img_1091.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/01/full-47343-409867-img_2841.jpg)
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981413
01/03/24 02:12 AM
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Hudbone
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I just recall the Cibolo Creek and waiting for the can of refries to heat up. I was always envious of you rich Churchill boys and the access you boys had. 
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981535
01/03/24 01:44 PM
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Sneaky
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981574
01/03/24 02:48 PM
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Dave Davidson
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I have somewhat the same situation. I bought my place about 40 years ago. $408 per acre; now worth many times that.
133 acres of recreational property; a synonym for junk land that is only good for getting away from town. Grandson and his buddies have been going there since they were children. They are now grown and do 90% of the work for the old guy(me).
They seldom hunt or even go there. Just me and wife mostly and I seldom shoot anything other than at my range.
Thinking about selling because I can’t do the stuff it needs. Damn, that’s a hard trigger to pull. Worth a lot of money but, being debt free, I really don’t have much need for the money. Don’t have expensive tastes.
Been procrastinating about this for quite awhile. If/when I die I figure wife will grab the cash and head to Winstar.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981610
01/03/24 04:25 PM
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fishbait
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Dave....I too have been around for a long time........As soon as you sell the place ..ya'll wish ya hadn't, sure as shootin'. I have a small lot on the river, I keep thinking I will sell it some day, but when I do think that I also know I will never get a place to replace it. I had it too long to loose now. good luck.
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981712
01/03/24 07:47 PM
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PMK
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great story Creek!!! brings back many fond childhood memories for me growing up around various hunting camps around central Texas with my dad and his hunting buddies. Thanks for sharing!
"everyone that lives dies but not everyone who dies lived..."
~PMK~
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981738
01/03/24 08:35 PM
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Reata
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Thanks for sharing Creek! Reminds me of my journey with my boys.
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981765
01/03/24 09:48 PM
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TXHunter0619
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Great story, thanks for sharing.
tough times don't last, tough people do
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8981887
01/04/24 01:45 AM
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steve_twice
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We've been on the same lease for 29 years. The original guys (including my Dad) have passed on. We're on our 3rd generation. I know it's not the same as owning land but we have a lot of history out there. The landowners folks are buried in the lower pasture and my Dad was one of the pallbearers. Same fire pit and horseshoe pit and constantly broken water lines as always. I've shot 3 mature bucks in 29 years—plus my share of does, pigs, coyotes, ducks, and dove. As a place to kill game it's not exceptional but as a place to relax and appreciate your blessings I wouldn't trade it. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2024/01/full-248-409969-img_9186.jpg)
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Re: The lease
[Re: steve_twice]
#8982387
01/05/24 04:06 AM
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Rhdme
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We've been on the same lease for 29 years. The original guys (including my Dad) have passed on. We're on our 3rd generation. I know it's not the same as owning land but we have a lot of history out there. The landowners folks are buried in the lower pasture and my Dad was one of the pallbearers. Same fire pit and horseshoe pit and constantly broken water lines as always. I've shot 3 mature bucks in 29 years—plus my share of does, pigs, coyotes, ducks, and dove. As a place to kill game it's not exceptional but as a place to relax and appreciate your blessings I wouldn't trade it. I like this post 
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8982493
01/05/24 03:35 PM
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el Rojo
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Great thread Creek! Great stories told by all.
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8982571
01/05/24 05:37 PM
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Joined: Sep 2007
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Earl
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Last edited by Earl; 01/05/24 05:53 PM.
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8982574
01/05/24 05:38 PM
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Mr. T.
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Great memories were made and shared. That's what hunting is all about. Not the size of the antlers.
Cabin rental in Pagosa Springs, Co. Sleeps 10, If interested please PM me.
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8982672
01/05/24 08:09 PM
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270Sendero
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My grandfather and his brothers and cousins found a lease in Mason county in 1954. The land owner allowed 8 paid hunters and guests were allowed after opening weekend. The only way to join the lease was when a family member died. I got on the lease in 1994. We lost the lease in 2005 after the second generation owner died and his his 2 daughters wanted the place for their husbands. I am sure a couple thousand deer fell to my family during the 51 years we had that old lease. I learned a lot from those old men and did a lot of growing up there. It’s a shame that kind of place is getting harder to find and hold on to.
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Re: The lease
[Re: Mr. T.]
#8984543
01/09/24 03:07 PM
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bassnman
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Re: The lease
[Re: Creekrunner]
#8984629
01/09/24 04:51 PM
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BenBob
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Thanks for the thread Creek. Great story and some great replies.
Tired, Wired, and Uninspired
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Re: The lease
[Re: Hudbone]
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01/09/24 05:42 PM
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gary roberson
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I just recall the Cibolo Creek and waiting for the can of refries to heat up. I was always envious of you rich Churchill boys and the access you boys had.  And some of us went to school at lowly Devine High School... Adios, Gary
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