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Binos
#8974876
12/18/23 08:56 PM
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Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 138
BrangusVA
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Can't afford Swaro's. Looking at Ziess vs Steiners vs Maven. I have Leupold McKenzies right now and boy are they terrible. What do you say?
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8974893
12/18/23 09:19 PM
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Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 243
NGHTTRN
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Woodsman
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I agree the Leopold McKenzies are terrible. I have the same ones ![roflmao roflmao](/forum/images/graemlins/default/roflmao.gif)
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8974931
12/18/23 10:12 PM
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Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 350
Rounder
Bird Dog
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Bird Dog
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I second the Meopta. Great glass for the money.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8974945
12/18/23 10:38 PM
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Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 219
Daniel Boone
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Woodsman
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I have the Meopta binoculars as well. Talk to Doug at NY Cameraland and see what he has to say.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8974952
12/18/23 10:57 PM
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Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 61,516
BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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kind of a big deal
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coin toss between Maven and Meopta. I can attest to Maven’s warranty after a full send diwn a mountain face.
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8974960
12/18/23 11:26 PM
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Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 6,260
Jgraider
THF Trophy Hunter
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THF Trophy Hunter
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Gotta say.......check out the Vortex Razor HD on Cabelas site. It's $699 on sale, if you buy it on Monday (today) you get another 15% off, making it $595 or so.....an absolute steal.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8974961
12/18/23 11:30 PM
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Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 11,663
rickym
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Big fan of my Maven B6, Best glass I’ve looked through that wasn’t swaro, deals can be found if you look.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8974971
12/19/23 12:01 AM
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Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 13,548
ntxtrapper
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THF Celebrity
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Socialism - so·cial·ism (noun) Someone who wants everything you have, except your job.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8974974
12/19/23 12:19 AM
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Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 16,291
603Country
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Just get some used Zeiss, Leica, or Swarovski.
Not my monkeys, not my circus...
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8978762
12/27/23 03:07 PM
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Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 953
Nate C.
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Vortex is hard to beat for the price.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8978776
12/27/23 03:25 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 11,253
Longhunter
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Range finders built in are a plus.
Longhunter >>>-------> Make It Count!!!<><
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Re: Binos
[Re: 603Country]
#8979239
12/28/23 06:16 PM
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Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,954
Wytex
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Just get some used Zeiss, Leica, or Swarovski. This is a good idea, they will warranty their products even if used. I bought used Swaro SLCs about 25 years go and still use them. Sent them in for new glass , expecting to pay for that service and they did it for free as they found a defect in the glass.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8979952
12/30/23 11:31 AM
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Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,555
Dave Davidson
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Steiner all the way for me
But, there’s a lot of good glass out there.
Last edited by Dave Davidson; 12/30/23 11:32 AM.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Binos
[Re: Wytex]
#8979990
12/30/23 02:42 PM
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Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 6,260
Jgraider
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Just get some used Zeiss, Leica, or Swarovski. This is a good idea, they will warranty their products even if used. I bought used Swaro SLCs about 25 years go and still use them. Sent them in for new glass , expecting to pay for that service and they did it for free as they found a defect in the glass. Unless it pertains to the new Leicas bought in the past couple of years, the Leica warranty is for the original owner only and non transferrable. Zeiss customer service absolutely sucks nowadays. If you're bound and determined to own an alpha, Swaro rules.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8980075
12/30/23 05:54 PM
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Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,954
Wytex
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Sux to hear about Zeiss, my compact Leicas haven't had an issue but are rarely used- archery elk hunting mostly, and about 30 years old. Swaro has treated us right and no issues for about 25+ years now.
Warranty is important for any brand. Can't say now I would go with Zeiss.
The Mavens and Meoptas have been getting good reccs on other forums too. I have had Steiners, not a big fan but know folks that love them. Have a pair of older Leupold gold rings porro prisms that are good glass.
I guess I got lucky when I bought my used Swaro 10x42 SLCs in the bargain cave. Haven' t had a need to upgrade and they haven't had any issues other than the new glass right after I bought them. They were half of new cost back then used. Glass has made huge improvements, looks like mid range is much better now than years back.
Try to at least go look through some before you buy. Some great binos just don't work for some people due to their eyesight, etc.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8981049
01/02/24 11:44 AM
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,372
copperhead
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I bought a set of Steiner 12x42 Predators in 2009, I use nothing else. Really clear and sharp, even at long distances. Bushnell has come out with a decent set of binos now as well.
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Re: Binos
[Re: Wytex]
#8981387
01/03/24 01:15 AM
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Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 13,548
ntxtrapper
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Sux to hear about Zeiss, my compact Leicas haven't had an issue but are rarely used- archery elk hunting mostly, and about 30 years old. Swaro has treated us right and no issues for about 25+ years now.
Warranty is important for any brand. Can't say now I would go with Zeiss.
The Mavens and Meoptas have been getting good reccs on other forums too. I have had Steiners, not a big fan but know folks that love them. Have a pair of older Leupold gold rings porro prisms that are good glass.
I guess I got lucky when I bought my used Swaro 10x42 SLCs in the bargain cave. Haven' t had a need to upgrade and they haven't had any issues other than the new glass right after I bought them. They were half of new cost back then used. Glass has made huge improvements, looks like mid range is much better now than years back.
Try to at least go look through some before you buy. Some great binos just don't work for some people due to their eyesight, etc. I dropped my Zeiss Conquest binocular on a hard surface and damaged it a few weeks ago. Zeiss repaired it for free even after I told them it was 100% my fault.
Socialism - so·cial·ism (noun) Someone who wants everything you have, except your job.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8981793
01/03/24 10:25 PM
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Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 3,128
kdkane1971
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I love my Steiners as much as my Zeiss
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Re: Binos
[Re: ntxtrapper]
#8981972
01/04/24 07:55 AM
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Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 61,516
BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
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kind of a big deal
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 61,516 |
Sux to hear about Zeiss, my compact Leicas haven't had an issue but are rarely used- archery elk hunting mostly, and about 30 years old. Swaro has treated us right and no issues for about 25+ years now.
Warranty is important for any brand. Can't say now I would go with Zeiss.
The Mavens and Meoptas have been getting good reccs on other forums too. I have had Steiners, not a big fan but know folks that love them. Have a pair of older Leupold gold rings porro prisms that are good glass.
I guess I got lucky when I bought my used Swaro 10x42 SLCs in the bargain cave. Haven' t had a need to upgrade and they haven't had any issues other than the new glass right after I bought them. They were half of new cost back then used. Glass has made huge improvements, looks like mid range is much better now than years back.
Try to at least go look through some before you buy. Some great binos just don't work for some people due to their eyesight, etc. I dropped my Zeiss Conquest binocular on a hard surface and damaged it a few weeks ago. Zeiss repaired it for free even after I told them it was 100% my fault. now a days every company’s warranty policy should be no fault replacement, as its pretty much industry standard. love or hate, Vortex pretty much set the CS and warranty standard. Ive used warranty on the below, and the biggest difference was turn around time, except swaro, they said sorry but not sorry. maven- full replacement -5 days Vortex -full replacement - 14 days Leupold -full replacement 20 days Zeiss- full replacement of discounted model with a soon to be discontinued model- little over a 1 month Swaro- no longer support, wont fix. Maven has been the best CS I have ever delt with, but they are also the smallest company above and are direct to consumer
Bottom line, never trust a man whose uncle was eaten by cannibals.-Sen Joni Ernst
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8982377
01/05/24 03:32 AM
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Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,482
4Weight
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German or Austrian glass period.
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Re: Binos
[Re: 4Weight]
#8982448
01/05/24 02:19 PM
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Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 6,260
Jgraider
THF Trophy Hunter
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German or Austrian glass period. That may have been true about 10 years ago. Today....not so much, especially since the glass makers lke Schott have factories in Asia, including China. The Japs make world class glass as well.
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Re: Binos
[Re: BrangusVA]
#8982459
01/05/24 02:40 PM
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 32,612
sig226fan (Rguns.com)
duck & cover
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duck & cover
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Steiner has been my favorites for a while. I've looked at others over the years, but still have my steiners. For most hunting purposes I have 8x30's in my bag and in the hunting truck. In my daily truck, I have some older 12x Leupolds, generally need a little more reach from the truck than from the blind.
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