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Too much scope? #8937875 10/18/23 03:42 AM
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So I bought this rifle in .308
https://fiercearms.com/f-10-sidewinder/

And this is the scope I purchased. [Linked Image]

Both are out of my comfort zone and knowledge level. Seems to me this might be too much scope for the rifle. I am not a long range shooter, more of a hunter, but I like nice things. Should I save this scope for a different rifle?

Re: Too much scope? [Re: Leonardo] #8937897 10/18/23 05:22 AM
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3.6-18 is perfect for hunting. Leupold makes great scopes. I see nothing wrong here. If you don't do any long distance shooting, you are wasting some of the features of the scope, but otherwise, what's the issue?


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Other than it being heavy to carry around, I think it will be fine for deer.

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Not at all.

About the rifle, is this going to be your primary hunting set up for North Texas deer and hogs?
#1 in my line up is a .308 (Tikka CTR) with a VX5HD, 3-18 x44. I also let a Remington 600 in .308 ride in the Ranger 100% of the time for the hogs and other targets of opportunity that come up. I have a case of my preferred ammo and a few boxes of other factory stuff I shoot in the 600. When you start zeroing if you want to try some different ammo without having to buy full boxes let me know.


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I can teach you how to use it.

Then it would be the only type of scope you would ever want to have again.


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Have a 3x9 4x12 4x10 4x16 5x20 and 5x25 on my hunting rifles. I’d pick the upper end every time.


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one of my favorite hunting rifles is a 16" 308 Tikka CTR with a Steiner 3-15x50
Great setup

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On second thought. Don't listen to any of these guys. That is WAY too much scope. I have a Vortex Diamondback 3-9x40 that I just got back from warranty replacement. It is still brand new, never mounted. Much lighter scope and perfect for your set-up. I'll do you a solid and trade you even. Get rid of that heavy scope and put something lightweight on your rig.


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Originally Posted by J.G.
I can teach you how to use it.

Then it would be the only type of scope you would ever want to have again.

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Originally Posted by J.G.
I can teach you how to use it.

Then it would be the only type of scope you would ever want to have again.


^^^^ Take a class with JG, it's invaluable to know how to operate your equipment properly.

Then the only con is the scope weight. But I'd take a heavy rig that I can take confidently take game at long range over a light rig any day of the week.

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Re: Too much scope? [Re: Leonardo] #8939360 10/19/23 11:10 PM
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Appreciate all the thoughts. Definitely need to take the class

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The scope is not too much, the reticle is. If you are hunting at normal ranges to 300 yards, you don't need all that clutter. There is definitely a place for it but not necessary for "normal" hunting.

Scope is great, weight on most Lupeys is great for a hunting rifle.

again, in MY opinion, for hunting, a second focal plane scope would be a better choice.

MIL is okay since you're young and probably ride what's popular and works fine.

Now that I have JG all riled up. Depending on what caliber you're shooting but with most "deer hunting" calibers, Get a duplex reticle, sight in 3" high at one hundred yards and just hold dead on.

NOW, IF, you want to play the long-range game, 300 yards ++. Start all over again with the rifle and keep the scope.

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I don’t understand the whining about a MIl reticle being too cluttered for hunting . If you are hunting close, use the freaking crosshairs. It’s not complicated.

I’ve used all types of mil reticles for hunting . Many with a chevron and a Christmas Tree. Somehow I had no problems shooting deer up close with the tip of the chevron.



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Agreed.

It's a duplex, with some small additional features added.


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I have to agree. A mil reticle isn't bad, but personally I prefer a plain duplex. And I want it to always look the same, and that's why I do not care for FFP. I've had FFP and I've had mil...I just don't like them.


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Originally Posted by Leonardo
So I bought this rifle in .308
https://fiercearms.com/f-10-sidewinder/

And this is the scope I purchased. [Linked Image]

Both are out of my comfort zone and knowledge level. Seems to me this might be too much scope for the rifle. I am not a long range shooter, more of a hunter, but I like nice things. Should I save this scope for a different rifle?


IMHO, the scope is not too much for the rifle dimensionally. I'm not a long ranger shooter either. I'd say 95% of my shots are 120 yds or under. For that, I prefer a duplex reticle. Point & Shoot. Easy Peasy Lemon Squeezy. I've not accomplished shots at critters with "busy reticles, particulary in foggy conditions.

I figure 4 x per hundred yds. on deer size critters, so 8x should do for 200 yds. Although I have two scopes with 56mm objectives, 40mm to 44mm is my preference. I generally have my variables set on 5x for the field of view and screw up the power when necessary.

I have rifles set up for both 100 yds and 200 yd zero. However with your 308 and say a 150 gr.Nosler Partition (.387 BC) @ 2800 FPS MV, zero'd @ 100 yds, Nosler sez' you should be +/- 3.5" low at 200 or if 200 yd. zero, +/- 2" high at 100, YMMV.

Unless you are planning on scoping another rifle, or you are planning to return it for a refund, why not use it.

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Re: Too much scope? [Re: Leonardo] #8945091 10/28/23 05:12 PM
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I have a 3X9 trijicon and it is a solid scope. however I dont think 9 power is enough for me. For 100 yards it is satisfactory but for anything above 100 it just doesnt work for me. I went to a 3 X18 and love it. For my AR my 8X is fine because I never have a shot over 100 yards. But anything over 100 I want some magnification.


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That’s fancy. Great for the range. I keep it simpler for hunting. Sometimes, I go right to spotting with the scope while hunting. A cleaner reticle makes that function easier and more efficient.

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Originally Posted by DJ22
That’s fancy. Great for the range. I keep it simpler for hunting. Sometimes, I go right to spotting with the scope while hunting. A cleaner reticle makes that function easier and more efficient.

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That reticle is pretty clean. Like Jason said, it's basically a crosshair with a few additional hash marks. That scope will make a fine hunting scope, and even better if he learns how to use it.


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as long as you are comfortable carrying that setup around... it will serve you well.

def. hit up JG & get instruction from him.
its well worth your time & $

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It will work fine. I prefer light SFP scopes for hunting and FFP for targets, like some others before me mentioned. I don’t like how the reticles get smaller on FFP when the power is turned down to see better in low light. The illuminated reticle let’s you somewhat work around that. For a mil reticle that is as uncluttered as it gets. It will work pretty well for your purpose of a dual target/hunting rifle.

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I have a much bigger scope on my rifle than I use on a normal basis, but I like to have the option to go longer should I need to down the road. I also enjoy the bigger aperture letting in more light, and therefore being able to see in low light situations.

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In my early days I bought a 6-24 MILMIL scope to learn long-range shooting. It still lives on one of my main deer rifles, a 24" Tikka CTR in 6.5 CM. Although not really 'long range', I've used it to kill 6 whitetails from 267 to 343 yards. All were one-shot kills, all right where I wanted the bullet to go. Is 24X too much? Probably, but the first part of 'aim small, miss small' is AIM SMALL, which you can really do with a lot of magnification.


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