Has anyone seen the new ATF powder proposal? It was signed by Merrill Garland and says that anyone with anyamout of explosive(gun powder) has to report it to the local authorities. They want how much you have, how and where it is stored. When you obtain as little as 1 lb. It has to be reported in 48 hours. I saw this on a U Tube video last night. It was signed on Aug. 11th.

The only thing I can find is on the ATF website and it still says it's a proposed rule change. It would require reporting it to the local fire authority, such as the fire marshal, so fire fighters will have a heads up in the event of a fire. I'm very suspicious of anything like this that comes in a wrapper of "safety", and I'm being very kind by using the word suspicious.
If they put any weight in the comments on their site, it will fail immediately.

555.141 Exemptions.​
(a) General. Except for the provisions of §§ 555.180 and 555.181, this part does not apply to:
(1) Any aspect of the transportation of explosive materials via railroad, water, highway, or air which is regulated by the U.S. Department of Transportation and its agencies, and which pertains to safety. For example, regulations issued by the Department of Transportation addressing the security risk of aliens transporting explosives by commercial motor or railroad carrier from Canada preclude the enforcement of 18 U.S.C. 842(i)(5) against persons shipping, transporting, receiving, or possessing explosives incident to and in connection with the commercial transportation of explosives by truck or rail from Canada into the United States. Questions concerning this exception should be directed to ATF's Explosives Industry Program Branch in Washington, DC.
(2) The use of explosive materials in medicines and medicinal agents in the forms prescribed by the official United States Pharmacopeia or the National Formulary. “The United States Pharmacopeia and The National Formulary,” USP and NF Compendia, are available from the United States Pharmacopeial Convention, Inc., 12601 Twinbrook Parkway, Rockville, Maryland 20852.
(3) The transportation, shipment, receipt, or importation of explosive materials for delivery to any agency of the United States or to any State or its political subdivision.
(4) Small arms ammunition and components of small arms ammunition.
(5) The manufacture under the regulation of the military department of the United States of explosive materials for, or their distribution to or storage or possession by, the military or naval services or other agencies of the United States.
(6) Arsenals, navy yards, depots, or other establishments owned by, or operated by or on behalf of, the United States.
(7) The importation, distribution, and storage of fireworks classified as UN0336, UN0337, UN0431, or UN0432 explosives by the U.S. Department of Transportation at 49 CFR 172.101 and generally known as “consumer fireworks” or “articles pyrotechnic.”
(8) Gasoline, fertilizers, propellant actuated devices, or propellant actuated industrial tools manufactured, imported, or distributed for their intended purposes.
(9) Industrial and laboratory chemicals which are intended for use as reagents and which are packaged and shipped pursuant to U.S. Department of Transportation regulations, 49 CFR Parts 100 to 177, which do not require explosives hazard warning labels.
(10) Model rocket motors that meet all of the following criteria—
(i) Consist of ammonium perchlorate composite propellant, black powder, or other similar low explosives;
(ii) Contain no more than 62.5 grams of total propellant weight; and
(iii) Are designed as single-use motors or as reload kits capable of reloading no more than 62.5 grams of propellant into a reusable motor casing.
(b) Black powder. Except for the provisions applicable to persons required to be licensed under subpart D, this part does not apply with respect to commercially manufactured black powder in quantities not to exceed 50 pounds, percussion caps, safety and pyrotechnic fuses, quills, quick and slow matches, and friction primers, if the black powder is intended to be used solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes in antique firearms, as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16) or antique devices, as exempted from the term “destructive devices” in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(4).

ntx that is not what the new proposal is about. It is what Grizz said. The U Tube video showed the document signed by Merrill Garland on the 11th of August.

After reading much more federal law than I wanted to, the rule has already been amended as shown. However ntxtrapper's post is correct about the exemption. On the ATF website, you can click on components of small arms ammunition and the definition comes up to the side. Powder is included in the exemption from the definition of explosive materials, so it doesn't apply to us for reloading powder. It does say black powder doesn't get that exemption, so I assume it would apply if you have that but I'm not sure.

I suspected the YouTube stuff on this was about getting folks to click and see their videos...it's how they are paid.

Having said all of that, smokeless powder historically hasn't been viewed as explosive but instead hazardous.

I use high test hydrogen peroxide for my work and occasionally the ATF will pester me about why I buy so much of it.

All of my powder got ruined in a freak spilled milk incident. I have nothing to report.

I have had quite a few orders of gun powder shipped to me over the years. Every single box had a haz-mat placard on it.



However, DOT does classify primers as an explosive. Also why you pay a "Haz-Mat" fee when shipping them.



And yet every home owner in America has this hazardous material stored in various quantities. Some quite large.



Plus, anyone with anything that operates on propane has this hazardous material in or about their home.



If you also have a pool, and chlorinate it yourself, you have this hazardous material.

This helps much more than reading the codified statutes

The limited exemption for Black powder is here, it was also posted above....

Black powder is an explosive material for purposes of federal explosives laws and regulations.

However, the law exempts from regulation commercially manufactured black powder in quantities not exceeding 50 pounds (as well as percussion caps, safety and pyrotechnic fuses, quills, quick and slow matches, and friction primers) intended to be used solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes in antique firearms as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16) or in antique devices exempted from the term "destructive device" in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(4).


By the way...this rule is still in the open comment period. As well as the new stupid rule change proposed about who.what constitutes a "Dealer" of firearms according to the ATF. This rule change however will heavily impact many of the individuals on this site , as well as most "private" sales at gun shows!

I received 10 pounds of smokeless powder on Saturday. For the first time ever, the box had an Explosive placard on it.

Which is not correct.

Great read in this topic. The antis are persistent that is for sure.