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Leupold RF Binos?
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Has anyone heard when the new Leupold RF binos may hit the floors and any possible insite on how they may stack up with the Sig and Vortex models?
I've seen some videos on them but wondering if it's a lot of marketing hype. I did get to fondle them a bit at Shot Show earlier this year but they don't like you walking over to their competitors to compare side by side.
I have been watching a lot of the Sig vs. Vortex RF bino comparison threads here and will eventually be looking into one of these 3. I know all about the 3200. com's but I'm not spending that kind of coin in this department.
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Just FYI, I just got a notification from Midway that it's available now, for in case anyone wanted to be the guinea pig.
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Just FYI, I just got a notification from Midway that it's available now, for in case anyone wanted to be the guinea pig. I wonder who makes these for Leupold? Meopta made the last version for them. Just curious.
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Just FYI, I just got a notification from Midway that it's available now, for in case anyone wanted to be the guinea pig. I wonder who makes these for Leupold? Meopta made the last version for them. Just curious. Not sure but just looking at pics of them side by side they look fairly similar. Buttons look similar and so does some of the styling in the eye cups.
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Has anyone heard when the new Leupold RF binos may hit the floors and any possible insite on how they may stack up with the Sig and Vortex models?
I've seen some videos on them but wondering if it's a lot of marketing hype. I did get to fondle them a bit at Shot Show earlier this year but they don't like you walking over to their competitors to compare side by side.
I have been watching a lot of the Sig vs. Vortex RF bino comparison threads here and will eventually be looking into one of these 3. I know all about the 3200. com's but I'm not spending that kind of coin in this department. if you dont need a ballistics app built in here is best deal and glass Leica Geovid R you can probably get another 2oo off MSRP if you called CameralandNy
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Sigs were at the top of my list, over the Vortex no doubt. There aren't hardly any reviews on the Leupolds since they just became available the other day. My Sig standalone rangefinder has done great for me but I'm needing some new binos and really wanting to get into a RF bino set up without the cost of the 3200.coms. This put me into the Sig, Vortex, then just recently the Leupolds price range. I'm tending to lead towards the Sig at the time being. I played with the Lica Giovid and the Vortex side by side at Cabelas a few weeks ago. I hate to say it but I preferred the Vortex over the Leicas. (they didn't have a set of sigs or I would have played with it a bit as well). I ranged a mount on the opposite side of the store and between the two there was a 4 yard difference. I tried it multiple times and came up with the same results. I haven't done a lot of research on a somewhat similar but different topic. I do know my standalone Sig shoots a different range than my buddy's standalone Leica. Enough so that I called a shot for my buddy and he straight up missed a doe at roughly 500 yards, which is a chip shot for him. He ranged a stump that was right next to where she was standing and said I called the distance wrong...long story short, at that distance his leica was roughly 15 yards different than my sig. Which one was correct? Who knows, but my rifles are "tuned", if you will, to my sig and his is "tuned" to his Leica. We quickly switched rangefinders to call shots for each other.
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Sigs were at the top of my list, over the Vortex no doubt. There aren't hardly any reviews on the Leupolds since they just became available the other day. My Sig standalone rangefinder has done great for me but I'm needing some new binos and really wanting to get into a RF bino set up without the cost of the 3200.coms. This put me into the Sig, Vortex, then just recently the Leupolds price range. I'm tending to lead towards the Sig at the time being. I played with the Lica Giovid and the Vortex side by side at Cabelas a few weeks ago. I hate to say it but I preferred the Vortex over the Leicas. (they didn't have a set of sigs or I would have played with it a bit as well). I ranged a mount on the opposite side of the store and between the two there was a 4 yard difference. I tried it multiple times and came up with the same results. I haven't done a lot of research on a somewhat similar but different topic. I do know my standalone Sig shoots a different range than my buddy's standalone Leica. Enough so that I called a shot for my buddy and he straight up missed a doe at roughly 500 yards, which is a chip shot for him. He ranged a stump that was right next to where she was standing and said I called the distance wrong...long story short, at that distance his leica was roughly 15 yards different than my sig. Which one was correct? Who knows, but my rifles are "tuned", if you will, to my sig and his is "tuned" to his Leica. We quickly switched rangefinders to call shots for each other. 500 yards is a pretty fair poke. If they only differed by 15 yards, IMO he blew the shot. But it is odd they differed so much, almost like y'all didn't range the same target. Any chance there was a small limb, large piece of grass or something else one of them ranged off? I've tested my Sig against my Leupold and they're within a yard to 400 yards.
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I took my Vortex binocs to the Federal King of Coal Canyon match out in New Mexico. They're fine for watching grass and tree tops.
During the match, I made it a point to check the gear folks used to win. With their new Swaros and Leicas, I was able to see actual wind currents and mirage at different distances. I simply had zero idea of what was happening down range with my Vortex, comparatively. Watching the bullets' 'S' curve through the wind and valleys was absolutely fascinating.
Ended up buying a pair of Sigs off this board from a really nice guy. But why didn't I go buy either of the two mentioned above? The Sig glass quality is phenomenal. More importantly, the ranging was noticeably faster. Also, the Leica's made my eyes hurt. No idea why - could have been me, setup, etc.
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Sigs were at the top of my list, over the Vortex no doubt. There aren't hardly any reviews on the Leupolds since they just became available the other day. My Sig standalone rangefinder has done great for me but I'm needing some new binos and really wanting to get into a RF bino set up without the cost of the 3200.coms. This put me into the Sig, Vortex, then just recently the Leupolds price range. I'm tending to lead towards the Sig at the time being. I played with the Lica Giovid and the Vortex side by side at Cabelas a few weeks ago. I hate to say it but I preferred the Vortex over the Leicas. (they didn't have a set of sigs or I would have played with it a bit as well). I ranged a mount on the opposite side of the store and between the two there was a 4 yard difference. I tried it multiple times and came up with the same results. I haven't done a lot of research on a somewhat similar but different topic. I do know my standalone Sig shoots a different range than my buddy's standalone Leica. Enough so that I called a shot for my buddy and he straight up missed a doe at roughly 500 yards, which is a chip shot for him. He ranged a stump that was right next to where she was standing and said I called the distance wrong...long story short, at that distance his leica was roughly 15 yards different than my sig. Which one was correct? Who knows, but my rifles are "tuned", if you will, to my sig and his is "tuned" to his Leica. We quickly switched rangefinders to call shots for each other. 500 yards is a pretty fair poke. If they only differed by 15 yards, IMO he blew the shot. But it is odd they differed so much, almost like y'all didn't range the same target. Any chance there was a small limb, large piece of grass or something else one of them ranged off? I've tested my Sig against my Leupold and they're within a yard to 400 yards. After she ran off we went back and forth on it and we both ranged a stump right next to where she was standing multiple different times and came up with the same results with them being a bit different from one another. Not saying he didn't blow the shot, as he quite possibly could have, but 500 is typically a chip shot for him. He has a range out there that goes out to 1840 yards and he shoots quite a bit.
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Re: Leupold RF Binos?
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One thing that is mandatory, IMO/IME is to "calibrate" the aiming reticle with the actual laser RF in your unit. I do this buy putting the RF in scan mode, and go back and forth/up and down around the top of a single telephone pole. By doing this you will find where the actual laser beam is in relation to the circle aiming reticle in your particular unit.
I had a Sig3000 unit that, after doing this test, confirmed that the laser was actually located at 6 o'clock just outside of the circle reticle, which can and did result in false and inaccurate readings. I was ranging a mule deer buck at what I thought was about 350-400 yds, but the buck had a line of mesquite brush between me and him, pretty close to him actually. Given the laser/circle reticle described above, I would get ranges off of the brush top and not the buck. Don't know if that was what's happening with the situation described a couple of posts up, but the discrepancy could definitely be attributed to misaligned laser/reticle. It is a very common thing. I told this to the Sig CS rep, in my case, and he told me "it is well within spec", which I thought was a ridiculous answer. The Vortex Fury AB I've been using lately is very much better, with the actual laser aligned at 3 o'clock well within the circle. I can live with that, as I don't expect them to be perfectly dead center but I don't expect them to be completely outside of the circle either.
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Re: Leupold RF Binos?
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For what it's worth, my Sig kilo 2000 is right on the circle at 6oclock as well.
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I just watched the video on the new Leupold RF binos and my impression is….. what are they thinking? First off the ranging capabilities are mediocre compared to what’s available and then to suggest that they are great for competitors when their ballistics solution gives you”25” options of velocity and bullet weights. Wow! This is state of the art stuff …..15-20 years ago…. Come on Leupold you can do better than this.
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I just watched the video on the new Leupold RF binos and my impression is….. what are they thinking? First off the ranging capabilities are mediocre compared to what’s available and then to suggest that they are great for competitors when their ballistics solution gives you”25” options of velocity and bullet weights. Wow! This is state of the art stuff …..15-20 years ago…. Come on Leupold you can do better than this. DStroud knows his stuff. And Jgraider that was good info.
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if you dont need a ballistics app built in here is best deal and glass
Leica Geovid R
I agree with this 100%. I'd argue that for the low $1k's price point, almost anyone in a hunting scenario won't benefit from real time dope as much as they would better observational capability (via Leica's superior glass.) Onboard environmentals and solvers are all the rage these days, but in my opinion it's coming at the cost of very poor glass quality. Unless you're willing to drop closer to $3k.
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The GPO 10x50 is the best combination of glass quality and kickasss RF that there is IMO, and yes, I've owned 3 different Geovids.
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I just watched the video on the new Leupold RF binos and my impression is….. what are they thinking? First off the ranging capabilities are mediocre compared to what’s available and then to suggest that they are great for competitors when their ballistics solution gives you”25” options of velocity and bullet weights. Wow! This is state of the art stuff …..15-20 years ago…. Come on Leupold you can do better than this. Seems like one of two thoughts. 'Hey, we can make some quick bucks in this segment since RF binos are hot right now' or 'Hey, we better get something out there in this segment before our customers ditch us'.
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The GPO 10x50 is the best combination of glass quality and kickasss RF that there is IMO, and yes, I've owned 3 different Geovids. better then redesigned Leica R’s?
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This is hearsay but I heard that when Sig came out with the 10K that at about that time frame Leupold had a couple optics engineers jump ship over to Sig.
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This is hearsay but I heard that when Sig came out with the 10K that at about that time frame Leupold had a couple optics engineers jump ship over to Sig.
wish someone would hurry up and come out w/12x before I buy 15x
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The GPO 10x50 is the best combination of glass quality and kickasss RF that there is IMO, and yes, I've owned 3 different Geovids. better then redesigned Leica R’s? I have not had those two side by side, but I did have the GPO side by side last hunting season with my 3200.coms and Vortex Fury AB. Leica is optically superior, but my particular samples (3) had inferior/defective RF functions so they were dead last in that category. The GPO's optics are excellent, superior to the Fury AB, and a small notch below the 3200's. At least that's the way my eyeballs saw it after about a month fiddling with them.
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The GPO 10x50 is the best combination of glass quality and kickasss RF that there is IMO, and yes, I've owned 3 different Geovids. better then redesigned Leica R’s? I have not had those two side by side, but I did have the GPO side by side last hunting season with my 3200.coms and Vortex Fury AB. Leica is optically superior, but my particular samples (3) had inferior/defective RF functions so they were dead last in that category. The GPO's optics are excellent, superior to the Fury AB, and a small notch below the 3200's. At least that's the way my eyeballs saw it after about a month fiddling with them. I’ve put the 15x geo R in my cart like 5 times and keep backing out. GPO are just a touch cheaper but with better warranty but only go to 10x
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My question would be why would you want a 15x RF Bino versus a 10x when the 15x is way heavier harder to hold and range with unless you are on a tripod? Just trying to visualize circumstances where the ranging in a spotter on the tripod is critical. Last season I used a Swaro NL 12x on the tripod and had the Leica Pro RF in my harness for final stalking.
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My question would be why would you want a 15x RF Bino versus a 10x when the 15x is way heavier harder to hold and range with unless you are on a tripod? Just trying to visualize circumstances where the ranging in a spotter on the tripod is critical. Last season I used a Swaro NL 12x on the tripod and had the Leica Pro RF in my harness for final stalking.
yes I use tripod 90% of the time. I hunt Wtx, NM, CO, Western Okla more then I hunt whitetails I only use 11x/12x now with single hand range finder, but more and more Ive been borrowing 15x geo r (on a tripod). I also digiscope a bunch It’s not needing to range on spotter, I can range via hand pretty easy w/15 geo R . I just want an all in one unit, ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2023/08/full-5357-396257-img_2021.jpeg)
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