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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 12:27 AM
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This will make it more difficult for those non-swimmers using inner tubes to make the crossing.
Did I read right this thing is only 1000' long? To start with. It is by its very nature 'experimental' for the purpose. Cost $1M for that stretch of buoys.....but worth it IF it deters a significant amount of people.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 12:29 AM
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This will make it more difficult for those non-swimmers using inner tubes to make the crossing.
Did I read right this thing is only 1000' long? To start with. It is by its very nature 'experimental' for the purpose. Cost $1M for that stretch of buoys.....but worth it IF it deters a significant amount of people. Film it and call it Mexican Gladiator for those try to navigate it
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 01:23 AM
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This will make it more difficult for those non-swimmers using inner tubes to make the crossing.
Did I read right this thing is only 1000' long? Saw an interview with DPS Capt, believe he said it will be a 1000 yards, they also mentioned there was some type of obstacle underneath, but didn't elaborate on it. Photo of them on a crane didn't show anything attached at that point.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 01:46 AM
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This will make it more difficult for those non-swimmers using inner tubes to make the crossing.
Did I read right this thing is only 1000' long? Saw an interview with DPS Capt, believe he said it will be a 1000 yards, they also mentioned there was some type of obstacle underneath, but didn't elaborate on it. Photo of them on a crane didn't show anything attached at that point. Heard mention of 'netting' but didn't see any such thing on what has been installed (to date). That (netting) would be fraught with problems I would imagine. The very first person to drown from an encounter with the barricade will have Mexico (and all bleeding hearts) screaming about it. I'm all for any measures taken to stem the flow of 'migrants' but ultimately ONLY a change in the administration in Washington and a return to dedicated border security will ever fix this fiasco. Then a ROBUST deportation program needs to go into effect.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 02:02 AM
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$1,000,000 for 1000 feet. That's about $5,000,000 a mile. https://cbsaustin.com/news/politica...ng-barrier-buoys-along-rio-grande-borderDepartment of Public Safety Chief Steve McCraw told reporters the first batch of buoys, around 1,000 feet in length, will be deployed July 7 near Eagle Pass. He said the first round of buoys cost "under a million dollars."
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 02:49 AM
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Man what a bunch of negative folks!
Give it a chance before you slam it! At least Abbott and Texas are trying to do something - I hunt 12 miles from the border and it has been a mess - the fact that they are attempting to slow it down should be welcomed! Welcome to THF. We wanted to start a Pessimist’s Forum here but nobody thought it would work. 
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 02:50 AM
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The company from South Africa that makes them, supplies them, and many other physical barriers, to countries all over the world.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 02:55 AM
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If anyone thinks that this is anything more than pandering to the voters, they’re delusional. This will do nothing but waste even more tax dollars. And for the hopeful, “at least their doing something,” crowd, you’re the most delusional of all. Until you start shooting every single one as they step foot across the border, nothing changes. They’ve already caught onto the political ponzi scheme and realize that there’s no real consequences.
None of it matters, though. We’ve already lost that war. There’s too many already here. Tomorrow, you could put a stop to the last one crossing that border, legally or illegally. Look around. They’re everywhere. They’ve already taken over. And what did they do to Mexico? The same thing they are doing here. They don’t care about the future, or rights, or preserving America. They are here to rape and pillage, and they’re doing a damn fine job of it. They breed like rabbits and pass along their destructive ways to their hoards of minions. This doesn’t get better, people.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 03:01 AM
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 03:09 AM
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 03:12 AM
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The company from South Africa that makes them, supplies them, and many other physical barriers, to countries all over the world. True...but the marine/military version has spikes all over it. These don't. All they do is 'rotate'. Put a person on top of the 'ball' with their weight past the center point and it will actually HELP you across by dumping you on the other side. I can only see them being useful in waters deep enough to require swimming. Many crossings on the Rio Grande are waist deep or less. Some places ankle deep. I can see it being a psychological barrier to some....but not so much a physical barrier.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 03:13 AM
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Sure, but what are we trying? To stop the rest? That only slows the hemorrhaging. Nobody will even deport the ones that are here. Sorry. Game over.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 03:16 AM
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The company from South Africa that makes them, supplies them, and many other physical barriers, to countries all over the world. True...but the marine/military version has spikes all over it. These don't. All they do is 'rotate'. Put a person on top of the 'ball' with their weight past the center point and it will actually HELP you across by dumping you on the other side. I can only see them being useful in waters deep enough to require swimming. Many crossings on the Rio Grande are waist deep or less. Some places ankle deep. I can see it being a physiological barrier to some....but not so much a physical barrier. Those animals stuff themselves into semi trailers, dashboards, crawl through tunnels, pay people off, etc. You’re right to be skeptical about this. It does NOTHING. Much like our governor. It’s useless.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 03:29 AM
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Sure, but what are we trying? To stop the rest? That only slows the hemorrhaging. Nobody will even deport the ones that are here. Sorry. Game over. I hope that is wrong....but it would certainly be a monumental task, since we don't even know where most of them are. We need 83,000 border patrol and ICE agents....NOT new IRS agents.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 10:03 AM
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Sure, but what are we trying? To stop the rest? That only slows the hemorrhaging. Nobody will even deport the ones that are here. Sorry. Game over. I hope that is wrong....but it would certainly be a monumental task, since we don't even know where most of them are. We need 83,000 border patrol and ICE agents....NOT new IRS agents. Yes, we do. Too bad it will never happen.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 10:35 AM
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If we could stop all wire $ transfers to Mexico or charge a tax of 25% on them I think a lot of this would dwindle down. I think if they tried to personally carry the $ back they would probably get robbed.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 11:27 AM
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If anyone thinks that this is anything more than pandering to the voters, they’re delusional. This will do nothing but waste even more tax dollars. And for the hopeful, “at least their doing something,” crowd, you’re the most delusional of all. Until you start shooting every single one as they step foot across the border, nothing changes. They’ve already caught onto the political ponzi scheme and realize that there’s no real consequences.
None of it matters, though. We’ve already lost that war. There’s too many already here. Tomorrow, you could put a stop to the last one crossing that border, legally or illegally. Look around. They’re everywhere. They’ve already taken over. And what did they do to Mexico? The same thing they are doing here. They don’t care about the future, or rights, or preserving America. They are here to rape and pillage, and they’re doing a damn fine job of it. They breed like rabbits and pass along their destructive ways to their hoards of minions. This doesn’t get better, people. Sure, but what are we trying? To stop the rest? That only slows the hemorrhaging. Nobody will even deport the ones that are here. Sorry. Game over. The company from South Africa that makes them, supplies them, and many other physical barriers, to countries all over the world. True...but the marine/military version has spikes all over it. These don't. All they do is 'rotate'. Put a person on top of the 'ball' with their weight past the center point and it will actually HELP you across by dumping you on the other side. I can only see them being useful in waters deep enough to require swimming. Many crossings on the Rio Grande are waist deep or less. Some places ankle deep. I can see it being a physiological barrier to some....but not so much a physical barrier. Those animals stuff themselves into semi trailers, dashboards, crawl through tunnels, pay people off, etc. You’re right to be skeptical about this. It does NOTHING. Much like our governor. It’s useless. Sir, you are 100% correct & I’d like to subscribe to your monthly newsletter
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 11:55 AM
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Sure, but what are we trying? To stop the rest? That only slows the hemorrhaging. Nobody will even deport the ones that are here. Sorry. Game over. So we should just stop and let thousands pour over the border into Texas? I'm good with stopping what we can. Don't you find it funny that the masses show up at the crossings with the most network TV cameras?
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 12:18 PM
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I see it as a migration of a species, caused by the collapse of a government - ours. 'Best you can hope for is to plan and protect your family to mitigate some of the consequences.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 12:19 PM
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If anyone thinks that this is anything more than pandering to the voters, they’re delusional. This will do nothing but waste even more tax dollars. And for the hopeful, “at least their doing something,” crowd, you’re the most delusional of all. Until you start shooting every single one as they step foot across the border, nothing changes. They’ve already caught onto the political ponzi scheme and realize that there’s no real consequences.
None of it matters, though. We’ve already lost that war. There’s too many already here. Tomorrow, you could put a stop to the last one crossing that border, legally or illegally. Look around. They’re everywhere. They’ve already taken over. And what did they do to Mexico? The same thing they are doing here. They don’t care about the future, or rights, or preserving America. They are here to rape and pillage, and they’re doing a damn fine job of it. They breed like rabbits and pass along their destructive ways to their hoards of minions. This doesn’t get better, people.  Sneaky For Governor 
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 12:30 PM
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Sure, but what are we trying? To stop the rest? That only slows the hemorrhaging. Nobody will even deport the ones that are here. Sorry. Game over. So we should just stop and let thousands pour over the border into Texas? I'm good with stopping what we can. Don't you find it funny that the masses show up at the crossings with the most network TV cameras? Of course not. I just didn’t think spending millions on pool floats is going to get it done.
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 12:49 PM
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Great idea, way to go Abbot. Not absolute or foolproof but it will definitely be a deterrent to future trespassing.
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect. Some people live an entire lifetime & wonder if they ever made a difference in the world, a veteran doesn't have that problem. Reagan
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 01:37 PM
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 02:58 PM
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Probably hard, molded plastic or rubber so it would take many bullet holes to do any damage.
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect. Some people live an entire lifetime & wonder if they ever made a difference in the world, a veteran doesn't have that problem. Reagan
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Re: River Barrier
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07/18/23 05:00 PM
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I see it as a migration of a species, caused by the collapse of a government - ours. 'Best you can hope for is to plan and protect your family to mitigate some of the consequences. That and learn Spanish....if you don't already speak it. Because the 'immigrants' sure as hell don't plan on 'assimilating' and I expect WE will be the minority in the near future.
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