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Seriously Boss
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06/30/23 09:49 PM
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2flyfish4
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So I will first start off with saying I shot a little bit of Boss last season. Primarily on a sea duck hunt in the north east. It burns a little dirty, but other than that it was a good shell. While I don't see any need to shoot it all the time bc I've never had much of an issue with killing ducks with steel it has its place. I recieved an email from Boss today with a new shell they call the "warchief" and its designed for killing ducks at extended ranges. They even claim to have finished off a cripple at 85 yards. They wanted a shell that gave more range for those stall birds that would never fully commit. Seriously, this is what it comes to. Advertising a shell to skybust birds that won't come into range. SMH....
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8876223
06/30/23 11:04 PM
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Guy
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Perfect for the guy that wants to set up right in the middle of the WMA, and shoot at every bird with BB full choke 3.5 inch, while everyone else in the WMA watches and shakes their head.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8876238
06/30/23 11:32 PM
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Smokey Bear
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The same Jack Wagons that talked crap the one time I opened up on here and talked freely in a discussion about decoy sets and finishing birds that didn’t know their tail from a hole in the ground will buy it by the case. Then they will testify how many more birds they knocked down at 80 yards with it. Then they will fill us all in that where they hunt, birds don’t finish. Yup, those are the guys they are marketing 80 yard duck loads for….
Last edited by Smokey Bear; 07/01/23 12:08 AM.
Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8876283
07/01/23 12:56 AM
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Ramball36
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If you say boss 3 times in the mirror kwood appears
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: Smokey Bear]
#8876319
07/01/23 02:37 AM
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KWood_TSU
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The same Jack Wagons that talked crap the one time I opened up on here and talked freely in a discussion about decoy sets and finishing birds that didn’t know their tail from a hole in the ground will buy it by the case. Then they will testify how many more birds they knocked down at 80 yards with it. Then they will fill us all in that where they hunt, birds don’t finish. Yup, those are the guys they are marketing 80 yard duck loads for…. How many people do you think can even kill a bird at 80 yards? Most people can't even kill birds at 40.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: KWood_TSU]
#8876337
07/01/23 04:44 AM
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Guy
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The same Jack Wagons that talked crap the one time I opened up on here and talked freely in a discussion about decoy sets and finishing birds that didn’t know their tail from a hole in the ground will buy it by the case. Then they will testify how many more birds they knocked down at 80 yards with it. Then they will fill us all in that where they hunt, birds don’t finish. Yup, those are the guys they are marketing 80 yard duck loads for…. How many people do you think can even kill a bird at 80 yards? Most people can't even kill birds at 40. The ones that miss are sky blasters, the ones that hit are sky busters. That both Barney’s.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: KWood_TSU]
#8876382
07/01/23 11:55 AM
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js4242
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The same Jack Wagons that talked crap the one time I opened up on here and talked freely in a discussion about decoy sets and finishing birds that didn’t know their tail from a hole in the ground will buy it by the case. Then they will testify how many more birds they knocked down at 80 yards with it. Then they will fill us all in that where they hunt, birds don’t finish. Yup, those are the guys they are marketing 80 yard duck loads for…. How many people do you think can even kill a bird at 80 yards? Most people can't even kill birds at 40. It’s not the fact of who can kill a duck at 80yds…it’s the fact they are actively marketing it to the dipshots. They talk about killing ducks ethically with one shot, but are now encouraging idiots to extend their range. This is not good for the public hunter. I already deal with kazoo players and sky busters. This is just going to encourage them more and potentially cause more wounded birds that sail off and die.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: Guy]
#8876400
07/01/23 01:00 PM
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Smokey Bear
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The same Jack Wagons that talked crap the one time I opened up on here and talked freely in a discussion about decoy sets and finishing birds that didn’t know their tail from a hole in the ground will buy it by the case. Then they will testify how many more birds they knocked down at 80 yards with it. Then they will fill us all in that where they hunt, birds don’t finish. Yup, those are the guys they are marketing 80 yard duck loads for…. How many people do you think can even kill a bird at 80 yards? Most people can't even kill birds at 40. The ones that miss are sky blasters, the ones that hit are sky busters. That both Barney’s. Your waterfowling vernacular is high level!
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: Ramball36]
#8876615
07/01/23 11:44 PM
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Canvasback
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If you say boss 3 times in the mirror kwood appears
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8876788
07/02/23 03:11 PM
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BDB
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I shot boss last year for the first time, 2 3/4" #4's
Not impressed at all. Waste of money
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8876851
07/02/23 06:04 PM
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mohunter
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If you can’t kill them with cheap shells, you will still suck at shooting with expensive shells too…
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8877064
07/03/23 02:59 AM
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Mike Honcho
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This pisses me off and is a complete bush League move. It encourages poor hunting practices and etiquette. Shame on them. They will never get any more business from me. Tried boss last year for geese. It certainly wasn’t a bad shell. I had no complaints, but it’s not some unicorn shell. People would get exponentially more benefit from patterning their shells and chokes than using boss, but a lot folks don’t want to put forth effort.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8877083
07/03/23 04:21 AM
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claypool
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Ridiculous. Huge fan of Boss, but reading that email really disappointed me.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8877146
07/03/23 01:47 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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As goo or better then TSS? Curious whats so special about the wad.
usually if it holds that tight to 60 means birds are mush at <30 yards
Interesting none the less.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
#8877193
07/03/23 03:29 PM
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As goo or better then TSS? Curious whats so special about the wad.
usually if it holds that tight to 60 means birds are mush at <30 yards
Interesting none the less. Bismuth isn't even in the same league as TSS when it comes to long range capability. I use boss in my small gauges,but that is a dumb bulletin he put out. Luckily most of the skybusters can't afford it probably.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: DUKFVR]
#8877209
07/03/23 04:07 PM
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js4242
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As goo or better then TSS? Curious whats so special about the wad.
usually if it holds that tight to 60 means birds are mush at <30 yards
Interesting none the less. Bismuth isn't even in the same league as TSS when it comes to long range capability. I use boss in my small gauges,but that is a dumb bulletin he put out. Luckily most of the skybusters can't afford it probably. These are the same cats “geared up” in head to toe Sitka. Doesn’t matter if they can afford it, they’ll buy it to impress their Barney friends.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8877223
07/03/23 04:56 PM
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LarryCopper
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: DUKFVR]
#8883902
07/17/23 04:36 PM
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#Hayraker
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As goo or better then TSS? Curious whats so special about the wad.
usually if it holds that tight to 60 means birds are mush at <30 yards
Interesting none the less. Bismuth isn't even in the same league as TSS when it comes to long range capability. I use boss in my small gauges,but that is a dumb bulletin he put out. Luckily most of the skybusters can't afford it probably. in my experience, it is most likely exactly the guys who can afford it.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: #Hayraker]
#8883964
07/17/23 06:01 PM
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BarneyWho
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As goo or better then TSS? Curious whats so special about the wad.
usually if it holds that tight to 60 means birds are mush at <30 yards
Interesting none the less. Bismuth isn't even in the same league as TSS when it comes to long range capability. I use boss in my small gauges,but that is a dumb bulletin he put out. Luckily most of the skybusters can't afford it probably. in my experience, it is most likely exactly the guys who can afford it. TSS in sub-gauges sucks!!
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8883971
07/17/23 06:23 PM
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TXHOGSLAYER
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Barney am I reading your targets correctly and those shots were taken at 40 yards?
LETS GO BRANDON
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: BarneyWho]
#8884005
07/17/23 07:09 PM
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DUKFVR
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As goo or better then TSS? Curious whats so special about the wad.
usually if it holds that tight to 60 means birds are mush at <30 yards
Interesting none the less. Bismuth isn't even in the same league as TSS when it comes to long range capability. I use boss in my small gauges,but that is a dumb bulletin he put out. Luckily most of the skybusters can't afford it probably. in my experience, it is most likely exactly the guys who can afford it. TSS in sub-gauges sucks!! [] What gauge?
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8884009
07/17/23 07:17 PM
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2flyfish4
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TSS is some bad [censored] stuff. Alleging copper plated bismuth is of the same caliber is delusional at best.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: DUKFVR]
#8884011
07/17/23 07:20 PM
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BarneyWho
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Barney am I reading your targets correctly and those shots were taken at 40 yards? Correct on 40 yards. We shoot most of our birds at 25-30 yards with cylinder chokes in the sub-gauges. I bet we have close to 100% of the TSS in the pattern at those distances. Very lethal and very pleasant to shoot! .410 and 28ga. TriStar G2 .410 is top left @ 40 yards with cylinder choke (75% of TSS in 30" circle) TriStar G2 .410 is top right @ 40 yards with Skeet choke (93% of TSS in 30" circle) TriStar G2 28ga is bottom left @ 40 yards with cylinder choke (68% of TSS in 30" circle) Benelli Legacy 28ga is bottom right @ 40 yards with LM choke (70% of TSS in 30" circle) Need to see if I can dig up some patterns with the SBE 3 28ga.
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: BarneyWho]
#8884018
07/17/23 07:31 PM
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DUKFVR
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Barney am I reading your targets correctly and those shots were taken at 40 yards? Correct on 40 yards. We shoot most of our birds at 25-30 yards with cylinder chokes in the sub-gauges. I bet we have close to 100% of the TSS in the pattern at those distances. Very lethal and very pleasant to shoot! .410 and 28ga. TriStar G2 .410 is top left @ 40 yards with cylinder choke (75% of TSS in 30" circle) TriStar G2 .410 is top right @ 40 yards with Skeet choke (93% of TSS in 30" circle) TriStar G2 28ga is bottom left @ 40 yards with cylinder choke (68% of TSS in 30" circle) Benelli Legacy 28ga is bottom right @ 40 yards with LM choke (70% of TSS in 30" circle) Need to see if I can dig up some patterns with the SBE 3 28ga. THANKS! I am getting ready to load some TSS in 410 shooting the same gun. Would you mind sending me by PM your data for the loads?
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Re: Seriously Boss
[Re: 2flyfish4]
#8884476
07/18/23 03:02 PM
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Ramball36
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All that investment in shells and wetlands and you’re shooting tristars
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