My truck was stolen and I can tell you Onstar is of no value.

It’s pretty simple really. If the suspect produced a firearm, or a weapon that could be effectively utilized based on their proximity to each other, he will likely be no billed. If the suspect didn’t have a weapon, then good luck to the truck owner trying to justify the use of deadly force.

Well said

Bottom line is you shoot when you must, not when you can.

I agree. If it is only theft, you can't just pull a gun out and shoot someone. Now if the thief had a gun, it's a lot easier to justify self defense esp. if there are cameras or witnesses.

Yep, was gonna say, Sounds like it already ended well.

We must be living in a different world.

Exactly. Scumbags are very protected these days.

Yes, they are.

SSS

Great advice. Dogs, illegals, scumbags, etc..

No becasue it wasnt in the night, he could have used force but not deadly force.

If the truck owner broke the law then the law needs to change. I have had three pick up trucks stolen. Two in Livingston Texas. One from the public boat ramp just north of Shepherd Texas on the Trinity River while I was fishing. Cost me a crap ton of money. Enough is enough. I don’t know the details of this particular case other than the thief got what he had coming in my estimation. Whether he was armed or not, it is the only way to be certain he will never steal from anyone else!

If you're concerned about having a truck stolen while leaving it unattended at a boat ramp simply pull the fuel pump relay. It won't be going anywhere at that point. There used to be a manufacturer of ignition boxes called Jacobs Electronics. One of their ignition boxes had an anti-theft feature built into it. If you started the car without flipping a switch it would run for a minute and then it would die. You could restart it and it would run and get you about 30 or 40 yards down the road and then die again. Thieves would usually wind up in the middle of an intersection with a car that wouldn't run but they always thought that there was an issue with the car and not that it was an anti-theft device.

So if you shoot them in the leg, is that just force? Deadly force would be a torso or head shot?

While that may be an effective way to locate stolen automobiles it does not address the issue nearly as effectively as the victim who capped the thief that stole his truck. I am in favor of treating thieves harshly. A bullet in the head of a thief you found in your automobile as standard procedure would deter auto theft. There would also be zero repeat offenders caught a second time.

^^^^ I have friends and family in law enforcement and the general consensus from them when they get a hit on a plate being stolen is that about half the time it's BS. I used to flip Mazda rx-7s because the engines would flood and people would not know how to unflood them and they would sell them with a bad engine. One day I bought a car, towed it up the street from where I bought it with a tow strap, and did the unflood procedure on an RX7 and someone called the fire department because of all the smoke. The law showed up with the fire department and when they ran the plate they told me the car was stolen and put me in handcuffs. The car was titled from Alabama and fortunately I had that title with me along with a bill of sale. The car had been reported stolen several years earlier and had been recovered but was never removed from the hot sheet.

Another time I bought a car that someone had purchased from a Tote The Note lot and at some point they missed some payments and the lot reported the car stolen. They got caught up on the payments and several years later I bought the car from the owner who thought it had a bad engine. It was a super clean one so instead of selling it real quick I drove it for a couple of weeks. I was in a park in Carrollton making out with a girl in the grass when I saw some cops messing with my car. I got up and walked over to them, told them it was my car and they arrested me and impounded the car. I had someone bring the paperwork from home and they cut me loose a few hours later and I was able to pick up the car from the impound lot.

Not every car that's reported stolen is stolen and the issue is not always cut and dry.

Since it happened in Bexar County, I’d go odds they end up charging the owner with something. San Antonio is getting as bad as Dallas and Houston.

Fort worth is getting there too.

If it is a big city, it is going to be overrun with libs, and it is going to turn into a chit hole.

Seems impossible to avoid. Too bad, too. I always liked Ft. Worth.