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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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02/06/23 07:44 PM
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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02/06/23 08:11 PM
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Here's a thread I posted from back in 2014. It goes over everything that I did to make the Rossi right...well almsot everything. Since this thread was posted, I also added a safety delete to it, so it only has the half-[censored] safety. It's still a good shooter. Of course, I'd rather have a winchester 92, but back then they were around $1100, and I only paid $500 for this one. https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4975078/rossi-92-project#Post4975078
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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02/07/23 03:20 PM
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I bought a pre 64 Win 30 30 a long time ago. It’s taken it’s share of deer.
Then, I was once in a gun shop and wound up with a Win 1873 in 38-40. It had some original cartridges that I still have. I took it out, shot a deer, and took it home and cleaned it, Safe Queen for a lot of years. I once screwed up. I was looking at Gunbroker and saw an original set of bullet molds and dies for it. Money was a little tight then and I passed. Been kicking myself since that day.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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02/07/23 05:46 PM
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I looked at a Henery in .44 Magnum yesterday at Scheels. Seemed nice. very heavy octagon barrel. LOVE the Winchester .22's but most are pushing $2,000 now 
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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02/07/23 06:24 PM
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I looked at a Henery in .44 Magnum yesterday at Scheels. Seemed nice. very heavy octagon barrel. LOVE the Winchester .22's but most are pushing $2,000 now  Seriously, $2000.00? I'd sell my (posted above) 9422M for a lot less than that.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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02/07/23 07:30 PM
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I looked at a Henery in .44 Magnum yesterday at Scheels. Seemed nice. very heavy octagon barrel. LOVE the Winchester .22's but most are pushing $2,000 now  Seriously, $2000.00? I'd sell my (posted above) 9422M for a lot less than that. I may exaggerate a bit but getting up there. I had a chance to buy a minty one in .22lr for $900 but passed. They are such cool guns but not really that fun at a range. You really need land you can plink on at various, lively targets.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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02/07/23 10:11 PM
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I have 3 357 Marlins......16", 18.5"and 24". Awesome guns. Load them heavy with 190 gr Ranch Dog or light with Lee 125RF. I've taken deer with both loads. Cheap to shoot, no recoil and great accuracy. Never saw a need for a 357 long gun till I bought one. Only Marlin I like better is the 45 Colt!
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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02/07/23 10:18 PM
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![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2023/02/full-10715-380366-1894.jpg) Scored this first year production Marlin 1894C in 357/38 a couple weeks ago on here. 125g 38 specials feel like 22mag. 158g 357 loads feel like 300BO. I have components ordered to load up some 180g hard cast for hogs.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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02/08/23 08:45 AM
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I may exaggerate a bit but getting up there. I had a chance to buy a minty one in .22lr for $900 but passed. They are such cool guns but not really that fun at a range. You really need land you can plink on at various, lively targets. I would not take $900 for my 39A. Not saying it's worth that much...
Pass the gravy.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/01/23 04:44 AM
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Have any .357's left?! Lookin' hard for another.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/01/23 06:23 AM
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![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2023/02/full-10715-380366-1894.jpg) Scored this first year production Marlin 1894C in 357/38 a couple weeks ago on here. 125g 38 specials feel like 22mag. 158g 357 loads feel like 300BO. I have components ordered to load up some 180g hard cast for hogs. Interestingly, my 125gr 300blk load and my 158 gr 357 load use almost the same exact amount of 300mp powder.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/01/23 09:00 PM
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..And a Marlin 336 when Ruger starts 35 Whelen production.
Huh?
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/01/23 09:39 PM
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Not not sure lever guns ever lost their popularity, given that sales of 30-30 ammo continues to hold strong every year.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/01/23 10:51 PM
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..And a Marlin 336 when Ruger starts 35 Whelen production. Huh? Sorry, 35 Remington.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 01:30 AM
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Here’s a few Marlins. 22, 30-30, 30-30, 35 Rem, 444, 45-70. ![[Linked Image]](https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/userpics/2023/03/full-5482-382745-3b9146c2_a9e7_49b9_a034_e5959bec0efa.jpeg)
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 02:43 AM
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NRA Life Member & GOA Member Always interested in Marlins. Let me know what you have for sale!
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 11:55 AM
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What about a 357/38 lever gun is more appealing than something like a 7.62x39 AR?
Lever gun is slower, holds less rounds, costs the same or more to shoot, and has about the same recoil. I can't imagine 38/357 is any more accurate than 7.62x39, or that accuracy would even matter much for the common use cases.
Just curious...I have a 30-30 model 94 and don't understand the appeal at all myself. I've owned it for 15 years and maybe shot it twice? Didn't care much for it either time. Inaccurate, slow, expensive to shoot, etc. I'd have sold it long ago if I didn't inherit it and had some sentimental value.
I would like to have a lever 22, but that's the only one I can see being interested in.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 12:17 PM
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I can shoot .357, .30-30 WIN, or any length of .22 in my levers for less than $0.20 per round. Even the old stash of 7.62X39 I have was slightly more than that. And I wouldn't run steel case in a AR either. The Zastava O-PAP is the main reason a 7.62X39 AR is not appealing to me. My 39A holds more rounds than my 10/22 or Marlin 60. The recoil statement is odd.
So, yes ... a lever is slower. The rest are blanket statements that are not necessarily true.
If you're 1894 is inaccurate, there's something wrong with it.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 12:37 PM
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Here’s a few Marlins. 22, 30-30, 30-30, 35 Rem, 444, 45-70. You sir, have the itis. I like it! 
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 12:54 PM
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I can shoot .357, .30-30 WIN, or any length of .22 in my levers for less than $0.20 per round. Even the old stash of 7.62X39 I have was slightly more than that. And I wouldn't run steel case in a AR either. The Zastava O-PAP is the main reason a 7.62X39 AR is not appealing to me. My 39A holds more rounds than my 10/22 or Marlin 60. The recoil statement is odd.
So, yes ... a lever is slower. The rest are blanket statements that are not necessarily true.
If you're 1894 is inaccurate, there's something wrong with it. I have 2 accuracy standards - bolt gun accurate, or don't care. My model 94 is "accurate" for a lever gun, but not accurate by my standards. There's no problem with the gun, except that it's as slow as a bolt gun without being as accurate and it's as accurate as an AR but slower and holds less rounds. It's lighter, but that just means it kicks more. I made the recoil statement because 7.62x39 has significantly more energy on target than 38/357 but there's not any meaningful recoil difference. I'm mainly asking what the appeal is from an honest curiosity standpoint. Functionally they seem inferior to other readily available options. What's the appeal? Just like the look and feel of an old west type gun?
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 12:58 PM
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Well.. because have you ever seen The Rifleman or John Wayne? Case closed.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 02:57 PM
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What about a ... lever gun is more appealing than something like a 7.62x39 AR? The lever.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 03:22 PM
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Not so sure about slower...
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 03:28 PM
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I can shoot .357, .30-30 WIN, or any length of .22 in my levers for less than $0.20 per round. Even the old stash of 7.62X39 I have was slightly more than that. And I wouldn't run steel case in a AR either. The Zastava O-PAP is the main reason a 7.62X39 AR is not appealing to me. My 39A holds more rounds than my 10/22 or Marlin 60. The recoil statement is odd.
So, yes ... a lever is slower. The rest are blanket statements that are not necessarily true.
If you're 1894 is inaccurate, there's something wrong with it. I have 2 accuracy standards - bolt gun accurate, or don't care. My model 94 is "accurate" for a lever gun, but not accurate by my standards. There's no problem with the gun, except that it's as slow as a bolt gun without being as accurate and it's as accurate as an AR but slower and holds less rounds. It's lighter, but that just means it kicks more. I made the recoil statement because 7.62x39 has significantly more energy on target than 38/357 but there's not any meaningful recoil difference. I'm mainly asking what the appeal is from an honest curiosity standpoint. Functionally they seem inferior to other readily available options. What's the appeal? Just like the look and feel of an old west type gun? Most lever guns carry easily. They balance well and come to the shoulder like a shotgun. For getting snap shots where you have to spot your target, shoulder your rifle, and fire quickly, nothing beats a lever gun. The nostalgia doesn't hurt either.
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Re: Lever Gun Thread
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03/02/23 05:09 PM
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I'm mainly asking what the appeal is from an honest curiosity standpoint. Functionally they seem inferior to other readily available options. What's the appeal? As I get older I find that I enjoy holding and looking at a gun almost as much as I enjoy shooting it. Blued steel and nice wood makes me happy. I own several AR's (yes, they are like potato chips, dammit!) and a couple of bolt actions in chassis for accuracy, but my old bolt actions and lever guns hold a place in my heart. In a SHTF situation I'll reach for the AR. I guess I just like owning lever guns.
Rick
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