The more I think about this, the more I think my reaction would be a lot like asking the question, what would I actually do if I actually had to take the life of another human being. I think I know what I would do, have had some training, practice on the range, but until I actually have to do it I won't really know. (Everybody has a plan until you get hit in the face) We're for the most part average people that are not involved in violence on a daily basis, don't have daily street fights, law abiding people. One minute we're talking to our wives on the phone while sitting at a traffic light, a gun is in our face while we're getting car jacked and someone is laying on the ground dead and we're sitting in our car holding our carry gun. I think the average person is going to be glad to see the police and just start talking, telling them what happened as a reaction to the shock from the event.

If I'm a cop, and someone is cool and calm enough with zero emotion and says nothing but, "I'm not talking to you without a lawyer" is going to get their wish and wrie a huge check.

I would gladly go to jail and pay lawyer expenses, than have police twist my words

20 plus years ago when I got my CHL in Texas, I had Dallas Cop gave the course, he said if you ever happen to shoot someone only say " I feared for my life, I want to talk to my lawyer"

I will go with that, hopefully I will never get into that situation

Yep.

LEO’s arent twisting your words, its on camera. They dont prosecute cases, thats DA’s job.

Id rather a LEO confirm my actions and testimonial, which if I’m in the right means recommending no bill. Not saying im giving full blow deposition. But I'm giving my best details of a very traumatic event, where I and family had no other way out of.

How soon are you going to give them those details? Immediately? A few hours later? A couple days later?

There’s a good reason that we don’t have to give our statement immediately. We have a 3 day grace period to decompress and let our brains process what we just went through. I’m not saying never talk to the police, but there’s no sense of urgency

It is not about them twisting a persons words. It is about the police using the words that actually come out of the persons mouth. A lot of times it is not the police using the words, it is the DA and or prosecution using the words that come out of a persons mouth.
Some people just don’t know when to shut up.

Not me, as I said before when I took my CHL class long long time ago, it was Dallas cop and nice guy, he said never trust the police and only tell them I feared for my life, and I want to talk to my lawyer if you happen to shoot someone.

I will give an account of what happened after I talk to my lawyer, You would be silly to start talking right after a traumtic incident like that just happened and you start giving statements to the police, and yes you give statements to the police not the DA.

You have 3 days because of an agreement. No detective in this country will wait 3 days to get a statement on a homicide investigation. There’s liability in letting someone just walk around for that long without knowing what took place. If the person kills somebody else during that time, and it turns out they weren’t justified in the previous one, there would be hell to pay.

read what I wrote very carefully, I will give a very simple statement about the traumatic event that gave me no other option then to protect my family. I'm not refusing to corporate.

Have you considered an LLC?

ha a few, I love auto correct on a mini iphone.

mini iphone, so thats the problem.....

technically its my eyes in conjunction with using an Iphone mini,,,,,, and a touch of laziness.

Laziness, now we're getting somewhere.....

I'm going to stir the pot a little bit here.

How is knowing and exercising your constitutional rights adversarial? Why is that the default?

There are lots of ways that exercising constitutional rights is adversarial, or just being a jerk. It is your constitutional right to stand on a street corner and yell at passersby about the impending apocalypse. It is your constitutional right to walk around downtown with your AR slinged. It is your constitutional right to tell everyone you meet that they need to get right with Jesus and should come to church with you on Sunday, or that Christianity is a lie and they should join you in worshiping Satan at your altar in the woods. It is also your constitutional right to not say a word to police. Being a right doesn't make it a good idea.

But exercising a right without being a jerk makes you an adversary in law enforcement's eyes? Who's the jerk in that scenario?

Killing somebody is against the codified laws of Texas. There are defenses for doing it, but they are your responsibility to establish. The only person who absolutely had their constitutional rights violated, is the person who had their right to life removed by you. Law enforcements job is to determine what occurred so the details presented to the grand jury are accurate. If you kill someone else and don’t establish what your defense was in a timely manner then yes, that’s an adversarial relationship. The presumption will be you didn’t have a good reason. Lots of luck to to you if that’s the path you choose.

Knowingly killing someone is murder. Defenses are not implied, they must be presented.
If everything looks legit. They will give an attorney a couple of hours to get there.


If you never want to say anything. Go for it. It’s your right. Stay silent all the way through a trial if you want.

Yep. I'll send anyone on here a kite when it's all aver worth asking how that worked out for them

Others have already covered it pretty well, but I can tell you the vast majority of officers out there want to clear you as quickly as possible if the shooting was truly justified, but they need your help to do it. They weren't there, so they have to depend on your statement to clear you. Otherwise, you're just a guy who killed another guy and that's illegal on it's face. I'll turn that question around - if an officer is working his/her [censored] off to clear you and you won't let them, who's the jerk?

The POS dead guys friends got no problem saying you started and provoked the whole thing. The poor Angel was turning his life around.

Insert picture from 7th grade.

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