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Bump Stock ban struck down
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01/09/23 02:20 AM
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MClark
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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01/09/23 02:36 AM
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gusick
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I forgot they were banned.
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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01/10/23 02:30 AM
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How much were citizens reimbursed for turning bump stocks?
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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02/06/23 09:12 PM
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Gekko68
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How much were citizens reimbursed for turning bump stocks? Thast funny... I just wonder if anyone is going to start producing them again.prob not,2 scared now..
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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02/16/23 03:49 PM
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yotehater
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They are just coming for your AR pistols now or anything they can cobble together to keep infringing our rights.
One shot is all it should take.
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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02/16/23 08:54 PM
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hetman
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This ruling does not mean that the ban is now lifted. It just means that the lower court who originally ruled in favor of the ban will have to revisit its decision.
"Lesser mortals are pitied for the misfortune in not being born Texan."
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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02/24/23 01:54 PM
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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03/11/23 03:58 PM
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yotehater
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Last edited by yotehater; 03/11/23 03:59 PM.
One shot is all it should take.
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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03/13/23 07:25 PM
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The key part of that article is this: “He’s making bump stops. He’s delivering them to people. And he’s selling them to people that are in Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi,” Cargill said. ... KXAN talked to a local attorney Douglas O’Connell about why the ATF would have chosen not to appeal the case. “The government either bungled it and didn’t file a timely notice of appeal – which I doubt – or they decided they didn’t want to appeal,” O’Connell said. “And this is pure speculation, but they might have decided if we appeal and get a negative ruling against our decision, that applies nationwide. Whereas right now, this decision only applies in three states,” he said.
So while they may be legal in three 5th Circuit states, they are still illegal in 47 other states. It's a victory for sure, but it's a very limited victory.
Thanks, Rich
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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03/14/23 12:15 AM
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How much were citizens reimbursed for turning bump stocks? $0.00 It was a real China type move on the Feds part It falls under the your killing granny by not getting jabbed move
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/08/23 03:48 PM
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Dave Scott
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I have no data on what amount of crime was committed with bump stocks. Any? Just liberal hysteria?
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/08/23 05:39 PM
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The Las Vegas shooting, that's about it.
And it doesn't sound like bump stock rate of fire to many of us anyway.
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/09/23 05:26 AM
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hetman
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"Lesser mortals are pitied for the misfortune in not being born Texan."
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/09/23 03:09 PM
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The Las Vegas shooting, that's about it.
And it doesn't sound like bump stock rate of fire to many of us anyway. To me it sounded like a man on a belt fed weapon who was adjusting his aim between burst but once the FBI got involved any chance of ever learning the truth vanished like smoke in the wind.
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/09/23 05:05 PM
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J.G.
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The Las Vegas shooting, that's about it.
And it doesn't sound like bump stock rate of fire to many of us anyway. To me it sounded like a man on a belt fed weapon who was adjusting his aim between burst but once the FBI got involved any chance of ever learning the truth vanished like smoke in the wind. Could've been adjusting his belt. M-60, M-240 7.62X51 NATO, belt fed. 550-600 RPM
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/09/23 08:24 PM
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^^^^ I could be mistaken but I believe that it has been reported that every single person struck by fire was hit with a 223 caliber bullet. Overall there was a fatality rate of just under 13% of the casualties which tells me that everyone there got off pretty lucky considering how bad it could have been. Just imagine if he had used a 308 with hunting bullets design for fragmentation on light game.
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/10/23 12:25 AM
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In Nice, the terrorists just used a rental truck and they killed 30 more people than the lunatic in Las Vegas with his 20 or 30 rifles. By the logic of the Feds, every heavy truck in the country should be banned as a public menace.
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/10/23 03:06 PM
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Dave Scott
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The Nice incident brings up a point. The president said we are the only country on earth with these mass shootings. I think we come in around 15th in the world, several European countries (Finland? France?) have higher rates. It is getting close to 200 years since Colt came up with the revolver, anyone could have stuck half a dozen under his belt and committed a mass shooting. Some other issue behind it.
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/10/23 03:38 PM
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soooo
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We've had guns since before we were a country. In the fifties and sixties you could buy them through the mail. These mass events have increased as television has become more a major part of people's lives. Guns don't do anything. But you all know that.
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/10/23 07:30 PM
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$349 each?! Thanks, inflation! I swear the old price tag was $200 less. I'd look for a receipt, but I never owned a few....any...I NEVER BOUGHT ONE AND DON'T STILL HAVE IT....because I never bought several one.
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Re: Bump Stock ban struck down
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04/11/23 03:13 PM
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Dave Scott
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I, as a gun owner, obviously think about all this. Never had all the mass shootings years ago. I know gun control won't work. Whenever I run into one of these gun control advocates I tell them I think drugs are behind a lot of gun crime and the answer is to outlaw drugs, make it illegal. The anti-gun advocate typically gasps and says, "what are you, an idiot? Drugs are ALREADY ILLEGAL" So I then ask if they are illegal and everywhere, then how would making guns illegal produce any tangible results? I am probably wrong but the thought hit me that the gun crime issue is a subset of a larger issue, general lack of personal responsibility and discipline throughout society. We have become an uncontrollable nation of people, no respect for laws or civil order. The guns are just a manifestation of the problem and trying to enact more government control does absolutely nothing. I did NOT support the Jan 6th riots and those people ought to be sent to jail. Today's citizen seems to equate anarchy with the American experiment in self government. Anarchy leads to a dictator to stop the civil unrest. Exactly what we don't want. When I was a kid, if you were a problem in school and the teacher told your parents, you got a "whooping" for your behavior. Today, in a world of incontrollable passions, if the same thing happens the parents become enraged and tell the school "you can't tell my kids what to do!" "I'll come after you if you ever do that again" etc. When I was a kid there was the Boy Scouts, sports teams, Bible classes, etc. etc. all sorts of constant discipline. I think it made for a better country.
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