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Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: BenBob] #8752425 12/07/22 08:38 PM
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Bring back bowfishing for catfish and make a noodling rod legal equipment.

Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: Txhunter65] #8752457 12/07/22 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Txhunter65
Allow deboning of meat in camp before taking it to the processor.


This.
A lot of times I would have liked to do this at camp having nothing to do, I was always too tired to do it on the same day I got home.

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Originally Posted by Texas452
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Allow deboning of meat in camp before taking it to the processor.


This.
A lot of times I would have liked to do this at camp having nothing to do, I was always too tired to do it on the same day I got home.


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Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: BenBob] #8752470 12/07/22 09:31 PM
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change antler restrictions to 3 on one side. We seem to have a lot of narrow bucks running around.


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Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: Texan Til I Die] #8752473 12/07/22 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Texan Til I Die
Set the quail season dates and limits by county rather than a statewide season and limit. I don't know of a huntable population anywhere north of I-10 and east of 281 but all of those counties still have seasons.

I grew up hunting Burnet, Lampasas, Llano, Williamson plus a few others. There was a considerable population of quail back then. One rancher in Williamson county I hunted on, told me that the fire ants had pretty much wiped out any quail he and his brother ranches (~3k acres between the two) and really impacted the turkey population as well. FWIW


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Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: BenBob] #8752475 12/07/22 09:34 PM
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Antler restrictions. It seems like we are selecting for small or narrow racks.

Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: Herbie Hancock] #8752480 12/07/22 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Herbie Hancock
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Allow deboning of meat in camp before taking it to the processor.


This.
A lot of times I would have liked to do this at camp having nothing to do, I was always too tired to do it on the same day I got home.


x3


I know a guy who kills two does every season and always debones them so he knows how much meat he's giving to the processor. No surprise he's the kind of guy that would buy ammo by the individual cartridge if he could. He's never had anyone question him about it.

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Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: Red Pill] #8752535 12/07/22 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Pill
Antler restrictions. It seems like we are selecting for small or narrow racks.



I would like TPWD to mandate a re-education class for everyone who believes this


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Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: BenBob] #8752554 12/07/22 11:08 PM
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No bag limit on javelina. I don’t have enough friends to keep their population in check by only harvesting 2 a year. They are as bad as feral hogs.

Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: BenBob] #8752556 12/07/22 11:09 PM
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I actually believe Red pill is right.

Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: BenBob] #8752557 12/07/22 11:10 PM
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Not regs, but I sure would like to see the Hunters for the Hungry programs expanded, supported, or even subsidized more. Getting MLD does to folks that could really use them is still sometimes difficult, especially away from the big cities and during the early season when it's too warm to transport them long distances. I know it has a lot to do with the regional food banks, and I haven't heard a whole lotta good about the Concho Valley (San Angelo) area food bank.


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Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: Theringworm] #8752559 12/07/22 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Theringworm
No bag limit on javelina. I don’t have enough friends to keep their population in check by only harvesting 2 a year. They are as bad as feral hogs.


Oh there was proposal to make them into a MLD species also… should of heard the whining by the liberals about making them extinct


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Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: Creekrunner] #8752560 12/07/22 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Creekrunner
Not regs, but I sure would like to see the Hunters for the Hungry programs expanded, supported, or even subsidized more. Getting MLD does to folks that could really use them is still sometimes difficult, especially away from the big cities and during the early season when it's too warm to transport them long distances. I know it has a lot to do with the regional food banks, and I haven't heard a whole lotta good about the Concho Valley (San Angelo) area food bank.


Barneywho did a big PhD project and I think we donated like 20 to either concho or Coleman I can’t remember.


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Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: txtrophy85] #8752566 12/07/22 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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Antler restrictions. It seems like we are selecting for small or narrow racks.



I would like TPWD to mandate a re-education class for everyone who believes this


That my work really well if you have good wide genetics, but if you have the narrow gene in the herd, old age doesn't help.

Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: BenBob] #8752597 12/08/22 12:21 AM
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I add a legit MZ season

I add a legit window for those under 13, in AR counties....a weekend

So those who are legit and not just criers can cull those 4 year olds at 12

Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: txtrophy85] #8752623 12/08/22 12:42 AM
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I wish they'd have a real data sample in every county, rather than anecdotal numbers.... Fannin County isn't getting better and doesn't have numbers to support 2 bucks in most of the county, same for lamar, Red River, etc. Just because it works one place, doesn't mean it will others. Most of the AR counties were guesses, and their own scientific review said so, but they kept the rule....



And create a cull buck tag in Foard and Hardeman, where we see high buck than doe ratios and crappy deer, that no one will shoot in a one buck county (IE one of the two bucks must be a spike, or have 2 or 3 differential in antlers per side)

Re: TP&W Dept. Changes That You Hope For [Re: BenBob] #8752686 12/08/22 01:34 AM
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Signing the back of the license is one they get you for because they can't find anything else. There is no good reason for it.

Same with logging whitetail on the back of the license. They do not make you log red drum, mule deer or Rio Grande turkey.

HIP is silly. I haven't been asked in five years (maybe longer) how many migratory birds I have gotten, and my license has HIP on it.


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Originally Posted by Simple Searcher

Signing the back of the license it one they get you for because they can't find anything else. There is no good reason for it.

Same with logging whitetail on the back of the license. They do not make you log red drum, mule deer or Rio Grande turkey.

HIP is silly. I haven't been asked in five years (maybe longer) how many migratory birds I have gotten and my license has HIP on it.


With the optional electronic license this year, I suspect it is actually a pilot program in disguise to work out the bugs before requiring everyone to use it. So you may get your wish and have no paper license to sign and all those animals will be logged in online too.
HIP is in a pilot program right now for Louisiana and some other states. You can't get it with your license in those states and have to go online yourself to get it or go to the wildlife office. I just hope we don't have to print it to create yet another thing to carry when hunting.
The new HIP will probably have yet another "administration fee" with it when you get it online.

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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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Antler restrictions. It seems like we are selecting for small or narrow racks.



I would like TPWD to mandate a re-education class for everyone who believes this

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Originally Posted by Old Rabbit
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Antler restrictions. It seems like we are selecting for small or narrow racks.



I would like TPWD to mandate a re-education class for everyone who believes this


That my work really well if you have good wide genetics, but if you have the narrow gene in the herd, old age doesn't help.



That narrow gene still existed before AR's.....only now you get the chance to see what a mature narrow racked buck looks like instead of seeing it as a yearling at the skinning pole


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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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Antler restrictions. It seems like we are selecting for small or narrow racks.



I would like TPWD to mandate a re-education class for everyone who believes this


That my work really well if you have good wide genetics, but if you have the narrow gene in the herd, old age doesn't help.



That narrow gene still existed before AR's.....only now you get the chance to see what a mature narrow racked buck looks like instead of seeing it as a yearling at the skinning pole


I'd like to see the antler restriction width reduced just one inch (to 12"). This would still allow for most bucks (most places) to reach an age of 2.5-3.5 yrs but also allow for the taking of genetically narrow racked animals that are older. We have no shortage of those in East Texas.

It would also allow younger (or new) deer hunters a wider selection of animals to harvest. I feel it would still achieve what the TPWD set out to do (increase the age structure of the herd). Not sure how the magical 13" measurement came about, but I'd wager 12" would do just as well.


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No AR's for youth hunters 16 and under.

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No AR's for youth hunters 16 and under.


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I have heard it mentioned by many that the shotgun plug rule should go away. There is already a bird limit.


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Originally Posted by txtrophy85
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Antler restrictions. It seems like we are selecting for small or narrow racks.



I would like TPWD to mandate a re-education class for everyone who believes this


That my work really well if you have good wide genetics, but if you have the narrow gene in the herd, old age doesn't help.



That narrow gene still existed before AR's.....only now you get the chance to see what a mature narrow racked buck looks like instead of seeing it as a yearling at the skinning pole


Yep, you are not understanding that killing off the big 13"+ bucks and leaving the 12" bucks to do the breeding is causing more narrow deer.

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