Forums46
Topics538,024
Posts9,732,045
Members87,055
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8748570
12/03/22 04:46 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 54
EmergencyDoc
Outdoorsman
|
Outdoorsman
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 54 |
First off, I drive fast... Been pulled over 26 times since having my LTC (10 years) and received ZERO tickets. Sometimes I am in scrubs which really helps too but majority were out of town so in street clothes.. I drive slower now, majority of those we in a 3 year span. Most of the times we ended up just shooting the breeze for a few minutes then we parted ways. So yes, I think it helps get out of tickets. Good luck convincing me otherwise.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8748586
12/03/22 04:55 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,948
Davis300
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,948 |
^^^ I concur. Certainly don’t have your stop record but the 3 or 4 times I’ve presented my DL and LTC license has been very smooth & cordial and no ticket.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: EmergencyDoc]
#8748660
12/03/22 12:08 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,275
jeepercreeper
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,275 |
First off, I drive fast... Been pulled over 26 times since having my LTC (10 years) and received ZERO tickets. Sometimes I am in scrubs which really helps too but majority were out of town so in street clothes.. I drive slower now, majority of those we in a 3 year span. Most of the times we ended up just shooting the breeze for a few minutes then we parted ways. So yes, I think it helps get out of tickets. Good luck convincing me otherwise. You sure you’re not a woman with a huge rack? How do you get pulled over 26 times in 10yrs and not a single ticket. ive gotten pulled over maybe 2 times in 10 years and ticketed. Maybe I need a boob job.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8748685
12/03/22 01:18 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,775
P_102
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,775 |
I’m having trouble figuring out why a person would bring out their LTC in the first place. If I were a LEO and someone pulled one out my very first thought would be that they want a break. I put my hands on the steering wheel and inform the officer that I have a handgun in the vehicle, no more, no less. They are usually very cordial.
Do not trifle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: reeltexan]
#8748687
12/03/22 01:21 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 12,422
RedRanger
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 12,422 |
In my experience, Law enforcement see you slightly differently if you're stopped and present the CHL. It means you've been checked out and you're one of the good guys. It puts them at ease.
...and, I believe it has saved me from a citation or two
Many times for me I was in Dallas working a few years ago, I was doing like 80 mph, I was pulled over by a black female officer, She said she got me on radar and I my speed was increasing, I kinda laughed when she told me, She just told me to slow it down and let me go with a warning.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8748691
12/03/22 01:28 PM
|
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 292
Longhorn74
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 292 |
I have had my CHL since the early 2000’s, since then I have been stopped seven times for speeding and never received a ticket. Most of the time we start talking about guns, which bores my wife and I’m let go with a warning. So it has saved me a few dollars.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8748709
12/03/22 01:49 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 636
Wool E. Booger
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 636 |
It seems to me after reading this, the main reason to have a LTC is to get out of speeding tickets? I’m never in that much of a hurry anymore, so I don’t guess I need one.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Wool E. Booger]
#8748715
12/03/22 02:05 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 484
Uncle Zeek
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 484 |
It seems to me after reading this, the main reason to have a LTC is to get out of speeding tickets? I’m never in that much of a hurry anymore, so I don’t guess I need one. Or more generally to smooth over interactions with LEOs. I sometimes have to deal with rather tense situations - tenant lockouts or evictions for example - and it's helpful when I identify myself as the landlord's representative to the LEO and also have my LTC. They almost always stop viewing me as a potential threat, even if I'm more heavily armed than they are.
"Decency is not news; it is buried in the obituaries - but it is a force stronger than crime" ~ Robert A. Heinlein Artim Law Firm, PLLC Estate, probate & taxes 2250 Morriss Road, Suite 205, Flower Mound, Texas 75028 972-746-0758 work zac@artimlegal.com
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Wool E. Booger]
#8748723
12/03/22 02:15 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,948
Davis300
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,948 |
It seems to me after reading this, the main reason to have a LTC is to get out of speeding tickets? I’m never in that much of a hurry anymore, so I don’t guess I need one. Certainly you’re right to feel this way. I’ve had mine for 12+ years & renew every chance I get. (And not just for speeding tickets)
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8748749
12/03/22 03:05 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 12,422
RedRanger
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 12,422 |
Renewal cost is almost nothing, and no more stupid classes to take.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8748773
12/03/22 03:35 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 11,913
Simple Searcher
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 11,913 |
Many years back I got more warnings. The last eight years I get pulled over about once a year, show them my license and LTC, and get a ticket about once a year.
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: fishdfly]
#8748793
12/03/22 03:56 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,953
txtrophy85
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 31,953 |
Don't have to wait when buying a firearm. This and being able to carry in many other states makes it worth it to me
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: DonPablo]
#8748816
12/03/22 04:26 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,495
der Teufel
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,495 |
Still, if there were some incident that brought you to the attention of the police AND you had a firearm with you or in your car, the LTC prevents things from being potentially even worse. I'll admit that is not enough on its' own to justify a LTC, but it's a little something extra. You can have it in your car regardless of proximity to a school. (Castle Doctrine) Not sure that's true. The school distance thing is a federal law so state rules regarding Castle Doctrine won't apply.
I have two unwritten rules: 1. 2.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8748823
12/03/22 04:36 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,530
PappawRock
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,530 |
The only time I got stopped I mentioned it to the officer and he told me that was great and if I didn't shoot him he wouldn't shoot me back...then he cleaned the dirt off my license plate light to where he saw it worked and bid me adieu and sent me on my way...great encounter and I wrote his PD chief and let him know...
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: txtrophy85]
#8748824
12/03/22 04:36 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 16,793
68rustbucket
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 16,793 |
Don't have to wait when buying a firearm. This and being able to carry in many other states makes it worth it to me Yep.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: der Teufel]
#8750717
12/05/22 10:49 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 780
DonPablo
Tracker
|
Tracker
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 780 |
Not sure that's true. The school distance thing is a federal law so state rules regarding Castle Doctrine won't apply.
Well that's what the police officer said when I asked.
Last edited by DonPablo; 12/05/22 10:50 PM.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: der Teufel]
#8750803
12/06/22 12:15 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 1,568
Texas452
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 1,568 |
Federal law prohibits carrying a firearm within a certain distance (1,000 feet ?? — not sure) of a school, UNLESS one has a license to carry issued by the state. Now, this is seldom enforced. In fact it seems that it's virtually NEVER enforced unless some other violation is cited and the law dogs just want to pile on. That is, if you're caught with drugs and you're near a school with a firearm they'll add the extra charge. Obviously, most folk on this board don't have to worry about that. The likelihood of being caught doing something criminal is pretty low. I think we're all basically law-abiding. Still, if there were some incident that brought you to the attention of the police AND you had a firearm with you or in your car, the LTC prevents things from being potentially even worse. I'll admit that is not enough on its' own to justify a LTC, but it's a little something extra. Who has picked their kids/grandkids up from school loaded up headed to the deer lease without a CHL? Is this illegal?
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8750816
12/06/22 12:26 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 10,638
Greg
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 10,638 |
Can’t cross the threshold of the door, but can walk up to it, park in the lot, or do drive through lane with an LTC. But can’t be in said parking lot if the school band or any other school event is practicing in the lot. At least that’s how it was when I was teaching the class. Not sure what the law is for constitutional carry. And don’t forget about the post office either. Doesn’t matter if you have an LTC or not. Can’t even have one in your car in their parking lot. Even if you are doing the drive thru drop box. So leave it at home or park next door and leave it in the car.
Last edited by Greg; 12/06/22 12:28 AM.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Texas452]
#8750833
12/06/22 12:49 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,935
unclebubba
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,935 |
Federal law prohibits carrying a firearm within a certain distance (1,000 feet ?? — not sure) of a school, UNLESS one has a license to carry issued by the state. Now, this is seldom enforced. In fact it seems that it's virtually NEVER enforced unless some other violation is cited and the law dogs just want to pile on. That is, if you're caught with drugs and you're near a school with a firearm they'll add the extra charge. Obviously, most folk on this board don't have to worry about that. The likelihood of being caught doing something criminal is pretty low. I think we're all basically law-abiding. Still, if there were some incident that brought you to the attention of the police AND you had a firearm with you or in your car, the LTC prevents things from being potentially even worse. I'll admit that is not enough on its' own to justify a LTC, but it's a little something extra. Who has picked their kids/grandkids up from school loaded up headed to the deer lease without a CHL? Is this illegal? Technically, yes. I believe that it would be illegal. But, being a federal law, is your local police/DA going to prosecute it? I guess that depends on if you live in Dallas/Houston/Austin, or outside of the big messes.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8750891
12/06/22 01:40 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,337
onlysmith&wesson
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,337 |
All the above on the pros. It’s also a source of pride, not everyone is qualified.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: onlysmith&wesson]
#8750904
12/06/22 01:52 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,275
jeepercreeper
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,275 |
All the above on the pros. It’s also a source of pride, not everyone is qualified. Used to mean something but now any turd with half a brain can carry a gun so those unqualified ppl just dont bother getting a CHL.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8750911
12/06/22 02:00 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 22,444
Superduty
"The Regulator"
|
"The Regulator"
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 22,444 |
Isn't there something about an LTC being in a place that serves Alcohol, the less than 51% statue. In other words if you are having dinner at Chilis you cannot carry in there because alcohol is being served without the LTC.
'It's Only Treason if You Lose."
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: jeepercreeper]
#8750929
12/06/22 02:13 AM
|
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,337
onlysmith&wesson
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,337 |
All the above on the pros. It’s also a source of pride, not everyone is qualified. Used to mean something but now any turd with half a brain can carry a gun so those unqualified ppl just dont bother getting a CHL. Exactly the reason I will always have the license.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Stub]
#8751139
12/06/22 01:00 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,336
Dave Davidson
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 8,336 |
My only observation of it took place in about 1967 inTempe Arizona. I was in the USAF and serving at Luke AFB in that area. It was legal then and there.
I saw a young guy walking slowly down a crowded street with a 2 gun rig, hands prepared for a quick draw and eyeing everybody who came up the street.
A clown that shouldn’t be anywhere near a gun.
Suddenly, 2 guys walked up to him, slapped the crap out of him, grabbed the guns and walked off. I felt that they performed a public service.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
|
|
|
Re: License To Carry Pro's & Con's.
[Re: Greg]
#8751150
12/06/22 01:12 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 12,422
RedRanger
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 12,422 |
Can’t cross the threshold of the door, but can walk up to it, park in the lot, or do drive through lane with an LTC. But can’t be in said parking lot if the school band or any other school event is practicing in the lot. At least that’s how it was when I was teaching the class. Not sure what the law is for constitutional carry. And don’t forget about the post office either. Doesn’t matter if you have an LTC or not. Can’t even have one in your car in their parking lot. Even if you are doing the drive thru drop box. So leave it at home or park next door and leave it in the car. I dont see local police enforcing that one about parking lot Probably have to be a Federal Police to catch you on that , and that would be very very slim that would happen.
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|