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Re: Letting young boars walk
[Re: DustyArmadillo]
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11/30/22 08:44 PM
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Hunter Daddy
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I try to do the same with fire ants. Only try to kill the young ants and leave the rest to breed........................NOT!!!!
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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11/30/22 08:47 PM
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I try to do the same with fire ants. Only try to kill the young ants and leave the rest to breed Excellent management of killer bees as well.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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11/30/22 09:09 PM
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I shoot sows first, better eating and better population control. We always shoot hogs.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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11/30/22 09:21 PM
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I never let a hog or coyote walk.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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11/30/22 09:57 PM
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I stopped killing all hogs and having carcasses laying all over my place because I found a large increase in the coyote population when doing this. Coyotes kill fawns so now the pigs get a pass unless I want one for the smoker. Hogs compete directly with deer for resources so your argument doesn’t make sense.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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11/30/22 11:03 PM
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Kill em all and let God sort em out. "Trophy" hog If there's such thing as a trophy dik dik in Africa, then yes, I believe in trophy boars. This is not a picture of me, just to serve as a reference.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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11/30/22 11:19 PM
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...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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11/30/22 11:29 PM
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Tanzania, Namibia to name a couple
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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11/30/22 11:36 PM
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I stopped killing all hogs and having carcasses laying all over my place because I found a large increase in the coyote population when doing this. Coyotes kill fawns so now the pigs get a pass unless I want one for the smoker. Hogs compete directly with deer for resources so your argument doesn’t make sense. My deer are fat as ticks and very abundant with hogs all over my ranch so apparently they all have plenty of resources. If there’s rotting hog carcasses all over it then it attracts coyotes. Coyotes eat fawns. This is based on common sense and living here where I hunt to see it firsthand.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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11/30/22 11:36 PM
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Do you let young coyotes walk so they make better killers? What the hell is wrong with you?
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 12:26 AM
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Some really interesting opinions in this thread. To each his own I suppose.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 12:33 AM
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Do you let young coyotes walk so they make better killers? What the hell is wrong with you? Pretty sure I made it clear that coyotes are the problem so no and I sure don't attract them from miles around with dead pigs either.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 01:04 AM
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You do you, Boo. If you want to try to save your big boars so that they will grow bigger, that is fine. However, your neighbors are not apt to follow a similar strategy. I had a landowner that complained just about every year how one of his neighbors shot his buck that he was planning of shooting next year when it reached its full potential. My point? Unless you own all the land on which the hogs are roaming, there is a decent chance somebody will end up shooting the boar(s) you are trying to let into trophies.
Saving boars at the expense of shooting sows is a good way to lower your local population. We concentrate on taking as many females as possible. This has resulted in slightly over 40% more hogs taken in the form of fetuses, of which if they did get born, would have an excellent chance of maturing.
I won't ever pass on a lone hog (boar or sow). Say you are trying to bank the 200 lb boar at the feeder for another year or two so that it can mature into a trophy. That means it is going to do another year or two of damage. At 200 lbs, it is going to be consuming roughly 6 lbs of resources per day and that number will climb as the boar gains weight. Why would you not want to put a stop to that now?
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 01:30 AM
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I'm an outsider so take my comment with a grain of salt. My impression was that feral pigs are a big problem in Texas. Based on that i would just assume kill sows first and after that just kill everything whenever it shows up. Also under the impression that those young ones are better eating. So i guess knowing nothing really my gut says pull the trigger on everything and never let anything walk where pigs are concerned.
Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 02:42 AM
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I stopped killing all hogs and having carcasses laying all over my place because I found a large increase in the coyote population when doing this. Coyotes kill fawns so now the pigs get a pass unless I want one for the smoker. Hogs compete directly with deer for resources so your argument doesn’t make sense. My deer are fat as ticks and very abundant with hogs all over my ranch so apparently they all have plenty of resources. If there’s rotting hog carcasses all over it then it attracts coyotes. Coyotes eat fawns. This is based on common sense and living here where I hunt to see it firsthand. Kyoto’s are all over anyway not like they leave if you don’t feed them.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 02:54 AM
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I did my part on Monday afternoon. Had about 15 come into the feeder. Biggest by far was a huge Sow so I popped her. Then a midsize boar was dumb enough to not leave so I dropped him also. Then another larger boar came in and I let him walk. Then a even bigger one came in and I let him go also. No I was not managing for a trophy Boar population. The truth is I was out of room on my 4 wheeler to haul any more than 2 in one hunt. LOL
I dont waste ammo on anything less than 50 pounds and usually wont even shoot one under 100 pounds. Everything else is in grave danger if I am in the mood to mess with them.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 03:06 AM
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I keep ropes in the Mule for the sole purpose of dragging pigs off. You can drag them forever and never tear through that hide and make a mess.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 03:34 AM
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One time I had two boars at the feeder, the larger boar was bullying the smaller one, so I folded his a$$ up like a lawn chair. Dropped straight to the ground, sitting upright, dead as a hammer.
The little one ran off only to come back a few minutes later, I could see him peeking from behind a bush just observing the feeder. Still plenty of corn on the ground but it was like he couldn’t make sense of it all. You could see his little brain weighing the risk of approaching the feeder again. Could’ve shot him but it didn’t feel right.
Reminds me of that scene in Fury when the German soldier spots the American hiding under the tank but doesn’t shoot. Sometimes you choose to let them live another day.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 05:10 AM
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I prioritize killing sows over boars, but no hogs get passes.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 05:16 AM
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I stopped killing all hogs and having carcasses laying all over my place because I found a large increase in the coyote population when doing this. Coyotes kill fawns so now the pigs get a pass unless I want one for the smoker. Hogs compete directly with deer for resources so your argument doesn’t make sense. My deer are fat as ticks and very abundant with hogs all over my ranch so apparently they all have plenty of resources. If there’s rotting hog carcasses all over it then it attracts coyotes. Coyotes eat fawns. This is based on common sense and living here where I hunt to see it firsthand. Kyoto’s are all over anyway not like they leave if you don’t feed them. Get some goats and chickens and see if they concentrate their time near a food source.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 05:53 AM
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I stopped killing all hogs and having carcasses laying all over my place because I found a large increase in the coyote population when doing this. Coyotes kill fawns so now the pigs get a pass unless I want one for the smoker. You could do what we do. Kill all pigs, then hunt the coyotes over the pig carcasses.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 10:44 AM
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I used to wish I could hunt wild hogs like you folks do.
Then our gooberment decided that Wild Hogs could not survive our winters so raising wild hogs became legal here. A few people in counties all over the province decided to give them a try. Big Mistake.
Turns out they can survive our winters at least as far north as the Peace River district in Norther Alberta. Not only that, the Wolves and Bears had little luck trying to kill them. We learned that soon after the first captive pig escaped.
Others followed and it soon became apparent that if something wasn't done immediately we would wind up in the same boat that you folks are in. They were multiplying at an alarming rate. An all out effort was made to irradiate them including the use of aircraft and snow machines in winter to locate and kill whole herds of them.
That brought them under control but a few remain in the wild to this day. Here, every wild hog is shot on sight. People who don't have a rifle report them to someone who does and everything gets put on hold until that hog is dead, and still a few survive. Thankfully, as far as anyone knows there are none left in this county. In the wild or in captivity.
From the first escape to the end of the whole sorry attempt to raise them here lasted just three years. I got to hunt wild hogs, and may again.
My advice, shoot every one you see. Leaving even one walk can lead to an infestation of the most destructive animal known to man.
Do for yourself as much as you can, eat what nature provides as much as you can. This is the key to sleeping well and living long.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 01:06 PM
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"Then our gooberment decided that Wild Hogs could not survive our winters so..."
Probably not all, but a lot of government biologists are just like government engineers - they couldn't get hired in the private sector.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 01:30 PM
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You asked.....you're freaking nutso.........kill 'em all.
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Re: Letting young boars walk
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12/01/22 01:50 PM
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I am butt deep in hogs; like everybody else. I’ll shoot them every time I see them. But, not during deer season. I only own 133 acres so can’t make much of a dent. Almost none of my neighbors hunt or lease their land.
I had a heckuva lot more deer prior to hogs showing up. But, have no idea whether pigs affected other animal populations. Except snakes. Prior to pigs, I had rattlers everywhere. Now any snake is a rarity and I prefer the snakes.
Without a sense of urgency, nothing ever happens.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley, Rancher Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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