texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Neil12w, Muff, Byron Head, eatsleephunt55, mike rig
70396 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,618
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 63,923
stxranchman 59,968
Gravytrain 46,950
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
BMD 41,241
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics613,140
Posts11,371,590
Members85,396
Most Online19,184
Feb 5th, 2020
Print Thread
Suppressors and Thermal #8686239 09/12/22 01:55 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,322
Gumbeaux Online Content OP
Extreme Tracker
OP Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,322
Got 2 Saturday with the 300 BO and thermal. Can't wait for the suppressor to get out of jail, then I'll be set up.

Question for you guys with suppressors and thermal....does the heat coming off of the suppressor impact the image out of the thermal? I see suppressor covers but not sure of the value in them unless it's to mask the heat, but then again, not sure that heat impacts the image. If it does, how many shots does it usually take before you create enough heat to create a problem?

[Linked Image]


[Linked Image]
Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: Gumbeaux] #8686300 09/12/22 02:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,846
T
T Bone Online Happy
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Happy
THF Trophy Hunter
T
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,846
My thermal doesn’t pick up the heat of the suppressor. I have a cover on it but I’m not sure that makes much difference..


Originally Posted by Jungleexplorer
I really hate to do what I am about to do, because it will be very painful for you.


Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: Gumbeaux] #8686305 09/12/22 03:02 PM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,329
D
der Teufel Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
D
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,329
I use a 300BLK and have a cover on my suppressor, mainly because the suppressor gets rather warm after several shots. My suppressor is also rather shiny so the cover keeps me from burning myself and also prevents reflection from the moon or other light sources. My cover is home made. It's basically the leg from a pair of OD green jeans with a dish cloth sewn in for extra insulation. I don't think the heat affects the thermal image much.

I bought the jeans for $1.00 at a second hand clothing shop. My wife had the black trim with her miscellaneous sewing stuff. There's a 3/4" web strap on one side to keep the cords in place that I bought for a few bucks. The cord is some camo parachute cord from Home Depot. Total cost was less than five bucks or so.

[Linked Image] [Linked Image]


You can never have too much ammo � unless you're swimming.
Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: Gumbeaux] #8686404 09/12/22 05:25 PM
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,603
P
Pig_Popper Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Online Content
Extreme Tracker
P
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,603
It takes only 1 shot for the suppressor to become visible

It doesn’t effect the image in other words it doesn’t cover anything you’d be aiming at

It could effect the “auto gain” of the scope depending on what make and model you’re running

And this really is only a matter of occurrence with low magnification small front objective scopes …

Example of suppressor being visible during strings of fire below:



This space is For Sale - inquire within ...
Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: Gumbeaux] #8686798 09/13/22 02:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 9
S
Speedtrucker Offline
Green Horn
Offline
Green Horn
S
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 9
Barrel length and magnification will play a part in being able to see a heat distortion.

My groups all pistols and sbrs for our thermal and nov.

I’ve never seen any of our suppressors show up on the Hogsters and iray but when panning/scanning you will see the hot cans.

I’d say ymmv

Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: Gumbeaux] #8687035 09/13/22 02:44 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 7,831
Double Naught Spy Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 7,831
Originally Posted by Speedtrucker
Barrel length and magnification will play a part in being able to see a heat distortion.

...

ymmv


No varying mileage. You are spot on. The longer the barrel, the longer the can, the greater diameter the can, and/or the less the magnification of the optic and the more likely you are to see the can after it heats up (and in some cases, beforehand). So either you have the can being forced into the FOV because of the size and shape of the can, or because a long barrel has thrust it into the FOV, or your scope just has a really large FOV, particularly down on native magnification or while in low levels of digital zoom. Zoom in more and the FOV reduces and the can will disappear (in most cases).

I do not see my can on most of my rifles when I am using my 4.5x native magnification Trijicon IR Hunter, but IIRC it shows up on my 22" upper. Getting down to 2x optics and I can see the cans on all my current rifles.

When shooting a gun where the can is visible, I actually like the effect. The can should and usually does point at the crosshairs quite nicely and well centered and it actually seems to help with aiming (see Pig_Popper's video above, his scope on the right side of the video). Visually, I like what a hot suppressor can add to the video, just so long as it doesn't take up too much of the screen or encroach too closely to the crosshair. Pig_Popper's can relative image size is about a big as I want to see it.


Hogdalorian - Si vis pacem cum sus, para bellum.
My Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange
Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: Gumbeaux] #8687692 09/14/22 04:12 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,322
Gumbeaux Online Content OP
Extreme Tracker
OP Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,322
Appreciate it guys. Mine will be a 9" long suppressor on an 11" barrel. 2.5X base mag optic. I'll probably get a cover from the guy who sells them on here, just to have ready.


[Linked Image]
Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: Gumbeaux] #8689057 09/16/22 03:43 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,055
C
ChadTRG42 Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
C
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,055
I would absolutely get a cover. Once you shoot, the can will be warm/hot. My thermal is low enough where it will pick up some heat signature, even with the cover on. Without it, it would glow. Thermals are real sensitive to environmental conditions, such as humidity and heat. The heat mirage coming off a cooling suppressor at night will no doubt effect the image quality. A quality cover is highly recommended. I run the Rifle Only covers. I don't recall if it's the HAD or the MAD system, but they are very good covers.



Custom and Precision Ammunition!!
www.DallasReloads.com
Type 01 and Type 06 FFL
Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: Gumbeaux] #8691568 09/20/22 03:03 AM
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 22,187
HoneyBeez Online Happy
The Beedazzler
Online Happy
The Beedazzler
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 22,187
Get a cover from Hunter Steve. The heat dissipation is real but protecting your can at the same time is a no brainer.


[Linked Image]
Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: Gumbeaux] #8691969 09/20/22 07:21 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,322
Gumbeaux Online Content OP
Extreme Tracker
OP Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,322
He hooked me up. Shipped fast and great quality. Wish the suppressor came this fast.


[Linked Image]
Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: der Teufel] #8703816 10/07/22 08:20 PM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,159
S
Sirrah243 Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
S
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,159
Originally Posted by der Teufel
I use a 300BLK and have a cover on my suppressor, mainly because the suppressor gets rather warm after several shots. My suppressor is also rather shiny so the cover keeps me from burning myself and also prevents reflection from the moon or other light sources. My cover is home made. It's basically the leg from a pair of OD green jeans with a dish cloth sewn in for extra insulation. I don't think the heat affects the thermal image much.

I bought the jeans for $1.00 at a second hand clothing shop. My wife had the black trim with her miscellaneous sewing stuff. There's a 3/4" web strap on one side to keep the cords in place that I bought for a few bucks. The cord is some camo parachute cord from Home Depot. Total cost was less than five bucks or so.

[Linked Image] [Linked Image]

I like what you did here. Thanks for posting. I think I'll make one of these covers.


�A hunt based only on the trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.� -Fred Bear
Re: Suppressors and Thermal [Re: Sirrah243] #8703912 10/07/22 10:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,329
D
der Teufel Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
D
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 2,329
Originally Posted by Sirrah243

I like what you did here. Thanks for posting. I think I'll make one of these covers.

One minor problem was that it would slip off if it rubbed against some brush or weeds occasionally. To fix that I made a small, flat wire loop at the end where the suppressor connects to the muzzle, which I looped through the strip of webbing. I then connected that with a light chain and hook to the hand guard. Otherwise it's just been doing its' job.



You can never have too much ammo � unless you're swimming.
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2022 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3