Yes all the new ones.

Any particular ones you want to discuss?

Mick West has some good explanations.

I haven’t seen anyone debunk Lt. Fravor or the Tic-Tac. I haven’t seen anyone debunk Bob Lazar. They’ve only discounted him because some of his records were hidden.

Those are the most compelling, to me.

I’ll have to check out this Mick West guy. I don’t recall hearing anything from him. If he has some logical explanations, I’d love to hear them.

“Mick West is a British science writer, skeptical investigator, and retired video game programmer. “

I’m all for skeptics. This stuff needs to be looked at from a scientifically skeptical viewpoint. But when I see Navy pilots and a former top gun saying this needs to be looked into further, I tend to agree with them.

Looked into further, investigated further, with no automatic assumption it’s extraterrestrial. It’s an unidentified aerial phenomena or UAP. Needs to be identified, not just dismissed. It was also picked up on ship’s radar.

Maybe it’s merely swamp gas from a weather balloon that was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus. Let’s verify.

If you want to be scientific you need evidence, and the only evidence they have is the videos, which have been debunked.

What About Bob Lazar do you think is legit?

Only a thing so people can sell T-shirts and trinkets in Roswell, NM.

What is linked in the OP is the only event which ever caught my attention.

He knew a lot of things that were later proven to be true, that would be difficult to know if he wasn’t telling the truth. I haven’t seen anyone debunk anything he’s said.

Bro, that guy is a liar and has been proven so over and over. He says he went to Caltech and MIT, but there are no records of him, or proof that he has gone there. When press to name some of his professors he named two. One was a professor at a junior college, which they do have Bob attending. That Professor was never at MIT or Caltech. Matter of fact bob was enrolled in that Junior College when he was supposed to be enrolled at MIT. Also Bob was in the bottom third of his class, how in the hell could he have made it to MIT?

What are you saying that he knew that were later proven?

He’s explained that those records were scrubbed by the government. That’s not at all difficult to believe.

He knew about the scanners they had at S4, element 115, the way the craft flew, etc.

I try to keep an open mind about these things. I don’t know if any of this is real or not. Maybe Bob is a liar, but I give it a chance. I have watched a few try to debunk him. It’s always the same thing. “There’s no record of him going there, so he’s a liar.” He provides an adequate rebuttal to that, and knows the layouts very well of the places he claims to have worked. There’s also proof of him working at those places. What about all of the things he knew about S4? Nobody seems to want to go there.

For someone that doesn’t want to believe, it’s not good enough. You seem to be one of those people. That’s fine, but there isn’t much point in discussing something you clearly have your mind made up about. I’d rather spend my time talking about it with people that have an open mind about things they don’t actually know.

Have you seen Close Encounters of the Third kind? It was made in 1977, that movie had that same hand scanner in it. It's not like it was some kind of top secret hand scanner or anything.

Anyone who looks at the periodic table could tell you what elements are coming up next. The only problem is Lazar describes 115 as being stable. The one they created in the lab is not stable and disappeared in less than a second

I'm not trying to bust your balls. I've just been following this whole UFO thing since elementary school. I really want to believe, but haven't seen anything proving their existence.

I know you’re not. It just seems you’re fairly close-minded about it. I haven’t seen anything that proves it, either. I’ve just seen a lot of stuff that hasn’t been debunked well enough for me to count it out.

Maybe he was missing for so long because aliens abducted him?

I just hope they don't come here "TO SERVE MAN".



My favorite Twilight Zone ever.

Back to the OP....I am sure the pilots saw something. I personally don.t think it was from light years away. I do believe life is elsewhere in our galaxy but why would something or someone travel light years just to play hide and seek.

He did work at Los Alamos, but not as a physicist, but as an electric technician that was subcontracted. He was said to have worked at area 51 with the badges that read radioactive exposure.

Bob claims to have taken some 115. If he did he could end this whole nonsense by producing it as proof. He could in all this right now. Maybe on his Deathbed he'll tell everybody where it is. Somehow I don't think that's going to happen.

If you want to be objective you got to look at both sides.

I am. So, how do you know he was an electrical technician at Los Alamos?

The telephone directory from Los Alamos.

One other thing. How does one go from working on the most advanced technology this world has ever seen to one month later.....the oldest profession this world has ever seen.

If he was truly a physicist that was revered enough to work on alien technology, he should be able to find a better job somewhere else, Instead of running an illegal brothel.

The phone directory? Before or after the government went after him?

No idea. What reason does he have to lie about all of this and ruin his life? If he made it up, why was the government after him?

Apparently he went to Junior College to be an electrical technician, then got the job with a subcontractor as such. In the Los Alamos phone book it had the company's initials next to his name. So yes he did work there he just wasn't a physicist. When they ran a story about his car, they referenced him as a physicist which he wasn't. I guess the reporter didn't press him for his credentials.

Mine too of the Twilight Zone.