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Feeder Cattle Losses in Kansas #8621331 06/16/22 01:20 AM
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Anybody following this?

10,000 head and counting.

Sounds like beef prices will have to take another jump.


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Originally Posted by nak
Anybody following this?

10,000 head and counting.

Sounds like beef prices will have to take another jump.

Was this heat related?


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Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by nak
Anybody following this?

10,000 head and counting.

Sounds like beef prices will have to take another jump.

Was this heat related?


Yes but the conspiracy theorists will be along shortly anyway.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by nak
Anybody following this?

10,000 head and counting.

Sounds like beef prices will have to take another jump.

Was this heat related?


Yes but the conspiracy theorists will be along shortly anyway.

Maybe they were huffing their own methane!


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Seems like a lot from heat. Has it been that hot 🥵??

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Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by nak
Anybody following this?

10,000 head and counting.

Sounds like beef prices will have to take another jump.

Was this heat related?


Yes but the conspiracy theorists will be along shortly anyway.

Maybe they were huffing their own methane!

Makes sense slow suicide . Farting methane into the ozone triggers global warming causes dehydration/heat exhaustion equals death. Good job fellas case closed , next question ?

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Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by nak
Anybody following this?

10,000 head and counting.

Sounds like beef prices will have to take another jump.

Was this heat related?


Yes but the conspiracy theorists will be along shortly anyway.

Maybe they were huffing their own methane!


Or even worse… Climate alarmist

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by nak
Anybody following this?

10,000 head and counting.

Sounds like beef prices will have to take another jump.

Was this heat related?


Yes but the conspiracy theorists will be along shortly anyway.

I’m not jumping to conclusions or anything but it is pretty convenient isn’t it ? Gas sky rockets , food supply dwindles , water issues , all the plants burning down ....kinda obvious there trying to kill our supply chain from the inside to control us ! So put on your tin foil hat and load up your 200 round drum for your 22 and get with the frickin program .

Btw that’s a joke..... or is it ?

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Re: Feeder Cattle Losses in Kansas [Re: nak] #8621400 06/16/22 02:53 AM
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Sorry....posted that from my cell and I hate typing on that.

Cattle deaths in Kansas are approaching 10,000 head over the last few days. Feedlots crowded with primarily Black Angus hybrids have died by the thousand due to high temps, high humidity, and the high animal density in todays corporate feed lots


While cattle can usually handle 100 + daytime heat, they need breeze and cool temps at night. With consecutive days of Daytime temps of 105, almost no wind, no cloud cover, and nighttime temps in the upper 80s, the stress was a to much fort the many cows of the black cattle.

I have no idea what percentage of the feedlot heard this represents. The futures markets seem to not know how to handle the news, but it sounds to me like beef prices will have to go up (even more) for a few months


Don’t Google it unless you want to see thousands of dead, black, bloating cattle


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I will wait for bobo to review this and cast his opinion. Sounds like they may be over loaded at first glance though.


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Genetics (breed) and color play into heat tolerance.

Black angus don’t handle heat stress as well as say a Brahman. If I remember correctly heat stress is something like 5-6 times more likely in black hided cattle vs something like a Charolais that’s light-hide . When you drive past a pasture tomorrow look at which colored cows are where in relation to shade. With a heatwave with no recovery period at night it’s 100% within the realm of possibility to happen. It’s happened before but definitely not to that magnitude.

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Re: Feeder Cattle Losses in Kansas [Re: ntxtrapper] #8621424 06/16/22 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by nak
Anybody following this?

10,000 head and counting.

Sounds like beef prices will have to take another jump.

Was this heat related?


Yes but the conspiracy theorists will be along shortly anyway.


10k is a lot but not in the grand scheme…. Heat with hot feed is a bad mix for non pre condition cattle. Sounds like some one either A) started them off to hot on feed or B) had a water bacteria issue. C) combo

10k is a weirdly high number, western KS gets hot, our old feedlot wasn’t far from Kansas and we had lots of bad hot summers and never had a bad die off… so it’s got to be feed and or water issue


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I will admit my first thought was “this is an act of war”. But really, we need to learn some statistics about cattle lost in the summer at feedlots, and compare things with years past before we start jumping to conclusions.

I can tell you it’s fairly common for one or two to die in the trailer, being moved in the summer heat. So let’s get some statistics. I have no idea where to begin looking.


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by nak
Anybody following this?

10,000 head and counting.

Sounds like beef prices will have to take another jump.

Was this heat related?


Yes but the conspiracy theorists will be along shortly anyway.


10k is a lot but not in the grand scheme…. Heat with hot feed is a bad mix for non pre condition cattle. Sounds like some one either A) started them off to hot on feed or B) had a water bacteria issue. C) combo

10k is a weirdly high number, western KS gets hot, our old feedlot wasn’t far from Kansas and we had lots of bad hot summers and never had a bad die off… so it’s got to be feed and or water issue



I bet you're pretty close to what happened. We have stretches this long or longer of oppressive heat and humidity each year here in Northeast Kansas. It just happened about 3 or 4 weeks earlier than it normally does around these parts.

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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Jimbo1
Originally Posted by nak
Anybody following this?

10,000 head and counting.

Sounds like beef prices will have to take another jump.

Was this heat related?


Yes but the conspiracy theorists will be along shortly anyway.


10k is a lot but not in the grand scheme…. Heat with hot feed is a bad mix for non pre condition cattle. Sounds like some one either A) started them off to hot on feed or B) had a water bacteria issue. C) combo

10k is a weirdly high number, western KS gets hot, our old feedlot wasn’t far from Kansas and we had lots of bad hot summers and never had a bad die off… so it’s got to be feed and or water issue


I wonder how many died in the summer of 1980 compared to 2022.

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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown

10k is a lot but not in the grand scheme…. Heat with hot feed is a bad mix for non pre condition cattle. Sounds like some one either A) started them off to hot on feed or B) had a water bacteria issue. C) combo

10k is a weirdly high number, western KS gets hot, our old feedlot wasn’t far from Kansas and we had lots of bad hot summers and never had a bad die off… so it’s got to be feed and or water issue


Yeah, this sounds like alarmist journalism. Grab a 'fact' and run with it, no verification. Could have overheard Jeb at the coffee shop spew a number that he has no idea about. Also agree that 10,000 is barely a blip on the radar.


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I'm starting to agree that the numbers maybe be overblown. The Ag Industry websites are acknowledging unusually high losses 6/10 - 6/12, but they are avoiding numbers. There does seem to be reliable reports of one ranch loosing 3000 head.


But it also looks like Kansas along as 2.4 million head in feed lots. Even if it's 10,000 head, that is less than 0.5% of the feedlot cattle in Kansas alone


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More than 2,000 Kansas cattle die in 'perfect storm' of high temperatures, humidity and no wind
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Excessive heat is killing cattle in Kansas. According to the Kansas Department of Health and Environment, more than 2,000 cattle died in Kansas in the past few days.

Matthew Lara, a spokesperson for the KDHE, said this number will probably increase, but he said, "The majority of the event happened over the weekend."

"Not all the deaths are reported to us," Lara said.

KDHE is notified if the location needs help disposing of bodies.

Although Lara said most of the deaths occurred in southwest Kansas, he is unable to pinpoint whether the majority of the animals came from feedlots or ranches.

Severe temperature, no winds, is rare but deadly occurrence
The event that happened last weekend through early this week was rare, said A.J. Tarpoff, a beef extension veterinarian with Kansas State University.


"The impacts of this will be equivalent to a blizzard or an ice storm ... or even a tornado," he said. "It was kind of a perfect storm."

Not only were there relatively high temperatures, but there also was a large spike in temperature and humidity. In addition, wind speed dropped.

"So when cattle accumulate heat load and have heat stress, it's temperature, humidity, wind speed and solar radiation that all play a key role," Tarpoff said. "Thankfully, it's a rare event."


Tarpoff said this was the first "big heat event" of the year and some animals may not have shed all of their winter hair.

"Out in the western Kansas area, there was that area that saw a 10- to 14-degree increase in temperature from that Friday to Saturday — kind of almost overnight, and the humidity increased pretty rapidly," said Scarlett Hagins, vice president of communications for the Kansas Livestock Association. "They saw very little wind and they weren't cooling off at night."

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Because the sudden increase in temperature and decrease in wind happened simultaneously, the animals didn't have any time to acclimate.

"In a very short time frame, this caused some cattle to succumb to heat stress," Hagins said.

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Keeping cattle in the pasture with shade and lots of water
Southwest cattle rancher Bradon Wiens said most of the deaths he heard about were in the feedlots. He said a feedlot close to him last week brought in cattle from Montana.

"(The owner) had to call the fire department to come spray them off because they were starting to go down because they were, being from Montana, unaccustomed to the heat," Wiens said.

As for Wiens, who raises Wagyu and Black Angus, he said both breeds are doing fine, especially the Wagyu.

Wiens raises his cattle on pasture and has a few trees and lean-tos for shade. He also has some running water in his pastures.

"If they have trees and fresh running water, then they're going to be doing OK," Wiens said.

Pretty Prairie rancher Chad Basinger, of Basinger's Beef, said he is keeping his fatter cattle near his home, with buckets of water nearby as heavier cattle will drink more. Like Wiens, the rest of his cattle are on native grass or cover crops. He said all his pastures have either ponds or creeks and some shade.

The cattle are like humans, Basinger said, they eat less in the heat and usually drink more.


"In the winter when it's cold, they'll eat more just to keep their body temperature up," he said. "So when it's real hot, they don't eat as much."

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How to take care of cattle in the Kansas heat
Hagins, of the Kansas Livestock Association, said heat stress isn't unusual during the summer.

"It's always a concern this time of year and something that cattle feeders always work to mitigate," she said.

They bring out extra water and, she said, often they will alter their feeding schedules so that cattle aren't digesting their food during the heat of the day because digestion increases the temperature in cattle.

They usually feed during the cooler parts of the day, sometimes changing diets and putting on sprinklers.

"Sometimes they may change their ration, so it's not as high energy because again, that increases heat in cattle," she said. "(They try to) keep those cattle as cool as possible."

Animals with preexisting conditions are the most at risk, as are animals that are larger.

"For our pasture-based system and our ranchers, it's really important that when times get tough like this and we have these heat loads to provide water, water, water and more water," said Tarpoff, the K-State veterinarian. "Their water intake needs, even for pasture cattle, goes up pretty dramatically during the heat load events."

Kansas, with 6.5 million head of cattle, is the third largest cattle state in the U.S., behind Texas and Nebraska. Texas has more 12.7 million and Nebraska has 6.8 million.

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