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Re: Armed teachers [Re: angus1956] #8612148 06/04/22 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by angus1956
"Finding teachers who are of the right mindset to smoke a kid is the challeng"

If engaged in a gunfight he ain't a kid anymore.


Not to us, but the whole point is that an awful lot of teachers can't or won't make that distinction.


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Originally Posted by Grizz
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"Finding teachers who are of the right mindset to smoke a kid is the challeng"

If engaged in a gunfight he ain't a kid anymore.


Not to us, but the whole point is that an awful lot of teachers can't or won't make that distinction.


Ole Mrs. Betty will not make that call. Jcarring hit a good point but coaches are typically only in Jr high and High school. One of my Jr high coaches actually stopped one in East Texas. I respected him even though at times I did not care for him. He took a 12 ga from a student I do believe in the cafeteria . He was a good man.


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Re: Armed teachers [Re: angus1956] #8612296 06/04/22 01:12 PM
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I was thinking shotguns might be useful in the classroom. Plus they could be used to bean-bag an unruly student or one that's not paying attention. Just need to be vigilant about what is loaded at the time.


I had a coach who could sling a blackboard eraser across the room with amazing velocity and accuracy. Headshots every time.

Sad to say but now a days he loses his job for that.
Kids need discipline, accountability and shown right from wrong.

I had a trashcan thrown at me for napping in class. Oh the good old days.


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Re: Armed teachers [Re: Smokey Bear] #8612514 06/04/22 05:40 PM
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Some teachers yes. But 95% percent of teachers are hard core democrat and against guns. They don't want to do it. That's the last person I want with a firearm who has no clue how to shoot a pistol in a crowded class room of kids. The mind set of most teachers is wrong to rely on them as the defense. It might be the answer for a select few teachers, but not the masses. My brother teaches, and he would be a good fit to go armed. But a high majority of teachers is the wrong answer.

There are about 21,000 total schools in Texas. You could put 2 armed guards at each school (42,000 officers), pay them about $70,000 a year for a total of about 2.9 billion. Have them highly trained, and work ONLY on school security and keeping the campus' safe. Why can't that be done?


Unfit to carry a weapon? Unfit to teach our children.


That is goofy. Men are meant to be the ones to protect women and children. Men playing women’s sports while we arm the women to protect the children? This country is going to hell in a hand basket.


I see, so you’re on the other side? The one that waits for the police. Real smart.


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The advantage a barricaded shooter has is lost on so many people. It blows my mind.

You could send a team of some of the best operators of all time in against a barricaded shooter with a machine gun, and they could all be mortally wounded by a single person with minimal training. As a matter of fact, it has happened. His advantage is obvious.

You turn the tables on a potential barricaded shooter by arming the teachers. Now they have the same huge advantage he would of had.

We could learn a lot from Israel right now.


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Re: Armed teachers [Re: 10 Gauge] #8612555 06/04/22 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
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Some teachers yes. But 95% percent of teachers are hard core democrat and against guns. They don't want to do it. That's the last person I want with a firearm who has no clue how to shoot a pistol in a crowded class room of kids. The mind set of most teachers is wrong to rely on them as the defense. It might be the answer for a select few teachers, but not the masses. My brother teaches, and he would be a good fit to go armed. But a high majority of teachers is the wrong answer.

There are about 21,000 total schools in Texas. You could put 2 armed guards at each school (42,000 officers), pay them about $70,000 a year for a total of about 2.9 billion. Have them highly trained, and work ONLY on school security and keeping the campus' safe. Why can't that be done?


Unfit to carry a weapon? Unfit to teach our children.


That is goofy. Men are meant to be the ones to protect women and children. Men playing women’s sports while we arm the women to protect the children? This country is going to hell in a hand basket.


I see, so you’re on the other side? The one that waits for the police. Real smart.


Nah. You obviously don’t know a damn thing about me. Your comment indicates you do not have a realistic size up of most individuals who choose a career in educating children. Fight, flight, or shut down are how people react when they find themselves in a bad situation. Most of the women teachers I know would be prone to lock up. Doesn’t make them bad teachers. Stating that if they are not wired for a gunfight they are not fit to teach is ridiculous. Hell 19 trained law men locked up in a hallway for an hour when faced with a gunfight. It is the place of strong men to stand up for women and children rather than expect women to toe that line.

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Re: Armed teachers [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8612565 06/04/22 07:23 PM
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I'm not sold on arming teachers as mentioned many wouldn't want to be armed. And being armed with no intention of use only brings a firearm into a situation to be taken by someone else. I'm curious why Schools aren't treated as secure facilities such as a hospital or jail. One point of entry for students and visitors with security and metal detectors. All secondary access doors can have a proxy system for faculty only. Stop the threat before it gets in the building.


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You’re putting words in my mouth. Wired for a gunfight? No. Wired to protect themselves and the children? Absolutely.

You think a woman is incapable of using a weapon in self defense? They do it all the time. The media would have you think differently.

Most of them would be prone to lock up? I’m sure you are acquainted with lots of female teachers.

This is the exact mentality that leads to more gun control. “Nope you can’t defend yourself little lady, you have to wait for me and the boys to get there.”


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Re: Armed teachers [Re: Victoryvette] #8612567 06/04/22 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Victoryvette
I'm not sold on arming teachers as mentioned many wouldn't want to be armed. And being armed with no intention of use only brings a firearm into a situation to be taken by someone else. I'm curious why Schools aren't treated as secure facilities such as a hospital or jail. One point of entry for students and visitors with security and metal detectors. All secondary access doors can have a proxy system for faculty only. Stop the threat before it gets in the building.


*typed on my phone, so please excuse grammar, punctuation, and spelling.


You nailed it. Secondary doors all rigged to a fire alarm, with cameras, locked to the outside.

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Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
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Some teachers yes. But 95% percent of teachers are hard core democrat and against guns. They don't want to do it. That's the last person I want with a firearm who has no clue how to shoot a pistol in a crowded class room of kids. The mind set of most teachers is wrong to rely on them as the defense. It might be the answer for a select few teachers, but not the masses. My brother teaches, and he would be a good fit to go armed. But a high majority of teachers is the wrong answer.

There are about 21,000 total schools in Texas. You could put 2 armed guards at each school (42,000 officers), pay them about $70,000 a year for a total of about 2.9 billion. Have them highly trained, and work ONLY on school security and keeping the campus' safe. Why can't that be done?


Unfit to carry a weapon? Unfit to teach our children.



Your words not mine.


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Re: Armed teachers [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8612578 06/04/22 07:45 PM
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I would never force a teacher to carry. That's a recipe for disaster.


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Originally Posted by bigbob_ftw
I would never force a teacher to carry. That's a recipe for disaster.


Heeeeeeeeeeere we go. Put some more words in my mouth. Not once did I ever make a recommendation to force a teacher to carry a weapon.

But you damn well ought to be fit to carry.

As for libtards in the classroom and leftist teacher… do any of you think most of those people will pass a psych eval and a background check?

Maybe the background check. Status quo is garbage.

I’m out for the weekend I’ll be back to see the grand standing, ignorance, and whoever else is putting words in my mouth after my 34.

Have a good weekend.

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Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
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I would never force a teacher to carry. That's a recipe for disaster.


Heeeeeeeeeeere we go. Put some more words in my mouth. Not once did I ever make a recommendation to force a teacher to carry a weapon.

But you damn well ought to be fit to carry.

As for libtards in the classroom and leftist teacher… do any of you think most of those people will pass a psych eval and a background check?

Maybe the background check. Status quo is garbage.

I’m out for the weekend I’ll be back to see the grand standing, ignorance, and whoever else is putting words in my mouth after my 34.

Have a good weekend.


I didn't direct this to you. Get over yourself fool.


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For 90% of these posts I can't tell if you're trying to be sarcastic or you're joking or you're just a brain-dean moron.

The pure stupidity being posted on this thread is breathtaking.

And BTW I am a public school teacher for the last 23 years in a large urban ISD in Texas and if I am going to carry at work it will have to be part of my official job description and I will have to be indemnified by the ISD too.


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Originally Posted by Homer Jay
For 90% of these posts I can't tell if you're trying to be sarcastic or you're joking or you're just a brain-dean moron.

The pure stupidity being posted on this thread is breathtaking.

And BTW I am a public school teacher for the last 23 years in a large urban ISD in Texas and if I am going to carry at work it will have to be part of my official job description and I will have to be indemnified by the ISD too.


Here is what is on the books. This should meet your requirements.
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/billtext/pdf/SB00741F.pdf

Latest text effective September of last year.
https://legiscan.com/TX/bill/SB741/2021

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