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Re: 10mm
[Re: M1John]
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05/11/22 06:51 PM
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Does anybody know if Glock went to a fully supported chamber on the newer models? I seem to recall stories about hot 40 and 10 mm rounds bulging cases. Not Glock bashing, I had a 17L at one time and it shot well. No they haven't, but I put a KKM barrel in mine and shoot hot loads just fine. Underwood ammunition is my personal preference using a 200gr jacket hollow point at 1250 fps. Same -- I only use Underwood ammo but usually their Xtreme Hunter round which is running a 150gr round at 1425 fps. Just a testament to that KKM barrel
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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05/12/22 01:42 AM
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I have a XDM, 4.5 discontinued and Colt Delta Elite with a Leupold red dot installed.
The XDM 4.5 I in 10mm is discontinued by Springfield, which I do not understand.
I was at the range a couple of months ago and the range master was shocked I was shooting my delta elite. I asked him why, that's what they are made for..he said they are mostly safe queens..I laughed.
Both loaded with Buffalo Bore.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Superduty]
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05/13/22 03:11 PM
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I have a XDM, 4.5 discontinued and Colt Delta Elite with a Leupold red dot installed.
The XDM 4.5 I in 10mm is discontinued by Springfield, which I do not understand.
I was at the range a couple of months ago and the range master was shocked I was shooting my delta elite. I asked him why, that's what they are made for..he said they are mostly safe queens..I laughed.
Both loaded with Buffalo Bore. I have the 4.5 XDM as well, I don't understand why they discontinued it either, they sold really well.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: TLew]
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05/13/22 06:01 PM
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Does anybody know if Glock went to a fully supported chamber on the newer models? I seem to recall stories about hot 40 and 10 mm rounds bulging cases. Not Glock bashing, I had a 17L at one time and it shot well. No they haven't, but I put a KKM barrel in mine and shoot hot loads just fine. Underwood ammunition is my personal preference using a 200gr jacket hollow point at 1250 fps. Same -- I only use Underwood ammo but usually their Xtreme Hunter round which is running a 150gr round at 1425 fps. Just a testament to that KKM barrel I have a Lone Wolf barrel in mine. A factory rep at Lone Wolf said it is rated for +P+ and is fully supported. Underwood said any of their ammo is safe in the Lone Wolf barrels. That's good because I've shot a lot of hot ammo through mine.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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05/18/22 12:46 AM
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Yeah, I’m in to 10mm. Magnum power in a semi auto pistol is most rewarding. The Sig 220 is heavy with a purpose. Low recoil and excellent shooter. 1911s aren’t shabby. My Dan Kodiak is the pride of all my other 1911s regardless of caliber. TRP is tight as all get out. Was forced to buy a Lee tamper crimp as the Dan and TRP have super tight barrels. Easier to crimp ammo that work the throat IMO. Great thread!
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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05/18/22 03:04 AM
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Glock 29: 88 yards coyote longest shot, 2 whitetail doe, 7-8 hogs Glock 20: elk cow, sh oryx, 4 whitetail, 1 turkey, 3 coyotes, 1 ram, 1 aoudad, 10-12 hogs Kimber 1911: Black buck, 3-4 hogs
Mostly use Federal Fusion 180...
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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05/22/22 08:03 PM
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I'll add a vote for Rock Island-- mine shot incredibly well esp with Chad's ammo (used on whitetail with big thumbs up). Added a Trijicon SRO and it was like cheating at 75 yards shooting the hostage taker 'popper' target (smaller than head size)
Have a G29 that I'm taking to Alaska this fall and it is shockingly accurate given the small size of the pistol and the stout 10mm rounds.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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05/26/22 01:34 PM
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Looks like Sig just released the P320 in 10mm: https://www.sigsauer.com/p320-xten.html I think I'd still rather go with a 220 or Glock 40 for hunting purposes but interesting to see more 10mm options popping up like this.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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05/26/22 01:41 PM
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XDM elite OSP in 10 mm was just released yesterday
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Re: 10mm
[Re: 65x55]
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05/26/22 01:52 PM
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Looks like Sig just released the P320 in 10mm: https://www.sigsauer.com/p320-xten.html I think I'd still rather go with a 220 or Glock 40 for hunting purposes but interesting to see more 10mm options popping up like this. That's interesting...
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Re: 10mm
[Re: RJH1]
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05/28/22 10:47 AM
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Any of you guys have a 10mm? what brand and your thoughts on one. Looking to buy. My thoughts are buy a 40 s&w if you want a better "do all" gun and buy a revolver in something like 44 mag if you want a better hunting gun Well, that’s not what he asked, but I’d love to hear you explain that comment.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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05/28/22 10:48 AM
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I’ve got the 5.5” XDM. I don’t know how I ever got along without it.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Sneaky]
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05/28/22 12:01 PM
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Any of you guys have a 10mm? what brand and your thoughts on one. Looking to buy. My thoughts are buy a 40 s&w if you want a better "do all" gun and buy a revolver in something like 44 mag if you want a better hunting gun Well, that’s not what he asked, but I’d love to hear you explain that comment. He did ask what brand and "thoughts" so I gave my thoughts 40 can push a 180 to 1150 out of a 4 inch gun and 1225 out of a 5 inch gun. It can also push a 155 to 1300 out of a 4 inch and ~1350 out of a 5 inch gun, so power is not lacking. It also fits in a small frame gun, which most people prefer because of the grip size and it makes it touch easier to carry. General shooting ammo is cheaper. The high end ammo wads pigs and such up. You can even get it in a small single stack gun, but I don't really recommend shooting the high end stuff in anything smaller that a Glock 23 size gun. If you need more power that the 40 will supply, better to go with a revolver and just bypass the 10, cause compared to even something smallish like a 44, the 10 is a weak sister IMO
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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05/28/22 01:47 PM
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He asked about a 10mm. At any rate, it outperforms a .40, even with your hot loads.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Sneaky]
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05/28/22 07:13 PM
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He asked about a 10mm. At any rate, it outperforms a .40, even with your hot loads. Well, he asked about 10 mm and thoughts so there's that. And yes 10 still outperforms 40 but the margins are so small they don't really offset the advantages of just using a 40. Not to mention I don't think you can get a 10 with a 3 inch barrel, though I could be mistaken on that. And a 40 will push 180s at 1050 in a 3 inch barrel. And none of that makes 40 or 10 anything other than a weak sister compared to a decent revolver. If people don't want thoughts they need to not ask for them
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Nathan Nelson]
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05/28/22 09:53 PM
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Glock 29: 88 yards coyote longest shot, 2 whitetail doe, 7-8 hogs Glock 20: elk cow, sh oryx, 4 whitetail, 1 turkey, 3 coyotes, 1 ram, 1 aoudad, 10-12 hogs Kimber 1911: Black buck, 3-4 hogs
Mostly use Federal Fusion 180... Pick the handgun platform that you shoot best. But no matter what, the 10 mm ammo can be found in forms appropriate for a wide range of critters. Recoil is mild and it is neither big or heavy. IMO, it's resurgence is because, while seldom the perfect sidearm, it does a good job while being easy to carry. The G40 with KKM barrel will push a 200 gr hardcast bullet near 1,300 fps (on my chrono) and a 155 XLT factory load near 1,600 fps (my wimp load only does 1,400 fps). My favorite hog load uses a 180gr XLT at 1,300 fps. You can make it do about anything you want except turn it into a 44 mag.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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05/28/22 11:42 PM
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It seems like 10mm is making a comeback like never before. It is such a great cartridge for reloading as well. The P220 is absolutely outstanding in 10mm. I have never shot the G20 or XDM, so no comments on those. I have a friend in Missouri with an RIA 10mm. He moved from a GP100 to the 10mm for his woods sidearm. He likes it. I haven't seen him since he got it. With the announcement of the P320 X10, my choice would be easy.
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Re: 10mm
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05/29/22 12:58 AM
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Glock 29: 88 yards coyote longest shot, 2 whitetail doe, 7-8 hogs Glock 20: elk cow, sh oryx, 4 whitetail, 1 turkey, 3 coyotes, 1 ram, 1 aoudad, 10-12 hogs Kimber 1911: Black buck, 3-4 hogs
Mostly use Federal Fusion 180... Pick the handgun platform that you shoot best. But no matter what, the 10 mm ammo can be found in forms appropriate for a wide range of critters. Recoil is mild and it is neither big or heavy. IMO, it's resurgence is because, while seldom the perfect sidearm, it does a good job while being easy to carry. The G40 with KKM barrel will push a 200 gr hardcast bullet near 1,300 fps (on my chrono) and a 155 XLT factory load near 1,600 fps (my wimp load only does 1,400 fps). My favorite hog load uses a 180gr XLT at 1,300 fps. You can make it do about anything you want except turn it into a 44 mag. There’s no replacement for displacement
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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05/31/22 12:29 PM
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Superduty
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Colt Delta Elite with Leupold Delta Pro. Shoots like a dream.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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06/01/22 12:36 AM
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Got the Springfield Elite 10mm can't wait to shoot it.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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06/02/22 06:45 PM
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Have any of you tried these Nosler bullets yet ? Picked up a box today for a decent price compared to online.
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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06/14/22 05:21 PM
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Colt Delta Gold Cup and a Glock 40 MOS here. Love them both and also handload.
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Re: 10mm
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06/16/22 05:50 PM
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Don't try this at home kids!
For the folks in the "a .40 can do almost anything a 10 can do".... respectfully disagree. But interesting note; you can't shoot a 10 out of a 40 but the reverse in not true as I witnessed a gentleman on the range shooting .40 out of his 10MM. Seems that with a strong enough extractor it can hold the shell against the breech face well enough that the firing pin will set the round off. When queried he said he had shot hundreds this way. I am not going to try it. I don't recommend it but apparently it's not as uncommon as you would think.
Don't try this at home kids!
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Re: 10mm
[Re: Master Plumb]
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06/16/22 05:55 PM
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^^ It is all based on the extractor holding the round in place. But, yes it is certainly doable, but it is something I will never do. You will have to clean the chamber out when going back to 10mm though.
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Re: 10mm
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06/16/22 05:57 PM
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Don't try this at home kids!
For the folks in the "a .40 can do almost anything a 10 can do".... respectfully disagree. But interesting note; you can't shoot a 10 out of a 40 but the reverse in not true as I witnessed a gentleman on the range shooting .40 out of his 10MM. Seems that with a strong enough extractor it can hold the shell against the breech face well enough that the firing pin will set the round off. When queried he said he had shot hundreds this way. I am not going to try it. I don't recommend it but apparently it's not as uncommon as you would think.
Don't try this at home kids! 40 out of a 10 has been going on forever. Just like people shoot 45 Auto out of a 460 Roland, and you can shoot 9 mm out of a 38 super comp sometimes. I wouldn't do that for carry ammo, but for shooting at the range there's no real issue to it. You can even shoot 357 sig out of a 10 mm. I don't know where the bullets going to go but it will work. or I guess I should say it will fire, You will probably not have enough chamber pressure to cycle the gun LOL.
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