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What's Wrong With .284 Win ? #8548143 03/05/22 03:55 AM
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Just curious
I know it was never popular and has probably only survived because of shooters necking it down to 6.5 ...and others.
However it would seem it has a good powder capacity and a great design.
It would seem it would better a 7-08 AI
So why nobody givin it love ?
Kinda thinking a new barrel for my Savage in an 8 twist to handle heavier chunks?
Sound like an idea .. it would be differenter and I do stuff like that to make people go "Whaddafook wronga himms ?
So tell me why it's a bad idea ....


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Re: What's Wrong With .284 Win ? [Re: Blanco] #8548154 03/05/22 04:11 AM
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Rebated cases have always provided feeding and extraction challenges. The .500 Jeffery is another cartridge that has experienced the same treatment.


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Re: What's Wrong With .284 Win ? [Re: Blanco] #8548158 03/05/22 04:15 AM
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I have my Papaws model 88 and it still gets to kill something every year. It just isn’t something that really caught on and it’s hard to find factory ammo for. I have his 41LC pistol and it’s the same way.

Re: What's Wrong With .284 Win ? [Re: Blanco] #8548184 03/05/22 04:59 AM
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Theres a lot out there that petered out without cause

Some were solid

People believe what they read and hear on the news, still happens today actually

Just like how the 6mm Remington never caught wings and the 270 did

One was pushed by the right outlets and enough people read them

And I am not saying anything bad about the 270 but one is iconic and the other is far from it

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6.5 cm
6.5 prc
6 mm cm

Fast forward 20 years from today and id bet you can still get the 6.5 cm and Id bet the other 2 are hard to get and petered out

But all are solid

Gone just because

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Nothing wrong with it and I'm surprised the long range guys don't shoot it more, it's downfall was the 7mm Rem magnum with another 250 to 300 fps with all bullets. That and when it came out lever action rifles were starting to leave the hunting scene with folks going for bolt rifles and better accuracy. 40 years ago i was shooting a 25-284 and a 6.5-284. Funny thing was I never had a stock 283. Passed that up and went to a 7mag.


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What’s the barrel life between the .284, the 7-08 AI, and the 7-08?

That would be the major difference to me if you’re going to do any high volume shooting.

The .284 also requires a medium or long action to achieve its potential.

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When i was thinking about a new build, Chad and i was looking at options. Wanted something different. Almost picked a 280 but decided to build a 260.


Re: What's Wrong With .284 Win ? [Re: Blanco] #8548634 03/05/22 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Blanco
Just curious
I know it was never popular and has probably only survived because of shooters necking it down to 6.5 ...and others.
However it would seem it has a good powder capacity and a great design.
It would seem it would better a 7-08 AI
So why nobody givin it love ?
Kinda thinking a new barrel for my Savage in an 8 twist to handle heavier chunks?
Sound like an idea .. it would be differenter and I do stuff like that to make people go "Whaddafook wronga himms ?
So tell me why it's a bad idea ....


"Better" than the 7mm-08 A.I. is very subjective. The 7mm-08 and 7mm-08 A.I. are definitely short action cartridges. If I were to build a 284 Win, if would be in a long action. 162, 168, 175 gr bullets is what I would load. Case capacity being +50 grains, it will make some velocity, that's for sure. 1:8 or 1:8.5 twist. I think it's a great cartridge from what little I have researched about it. I like that 35° shoulder. No fire forming, just load and shoot.


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Re: What's Wrong With .284 Win ? [Re: Blanco] #8548638 03/05/22 08:11 PM
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I feel like see quite a few 284 and some other similar variations within the f class guys at bayour rifle club, shehane I believe or something like that.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Originally Posted by Blanco
Just curious
I know it was never popular and has probably only survived because of shooters necking it down to 6.5 ...and others.
However it would seem it has a good powder capacity and a great design.
It would seem it would better a 7-08 AI
So why nobody givin it love ?
Kinda thinking a new barrel for my Savage in an 8 twist to handle heavier chunks?
Sound like an idea .. it would be differenter and I do stuff like that to make people go "Whaddafook wronga himms ?
So tell me why it's a bad idea ....


"Better" than the 7mm-08 A.I. is very subjective. The 7mm-08 and 7mm-08 A.I. are definitely short action cartridges. If I were to build a 284 Win, if would be in a long action. 162, 168, 175 gr bullets is what I would load. Case capacity being +50 grains, it will make some velocity, that's for sure. 1:8 or 1:8.5 twist. I think it's a great cartridge from what little I have researched about it. I like that 35° shoulder. No fire forming, just load and shoot.

In a custom on a long action with a fast twist barrel? Yes, there would be nothing wrong with a .284.



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I have thought when it is time to rebarrel the 6.5-284 I might just go with the .284 instead.


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284 is very prevalent in 1000 yard br, and f class, theres a variant called the 284 shehane that is an improved version of the case.

Barrel life is subjective if your running it hard in 10 shot strings expect maybe 900-1200 treat it well it will go 2,000 easy.

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FWIW, definitely has to be in a long action to reach it's full potential. I shoot a 284 I built on a Remington 700 long action, 24" SS wilson LV 1-8 twist remage barrel with a 3 port rugged suppressor brake, sitting in a KRG bravo chassis not the most high end set up but it shoots well and any accuracy issues are me, equipment failure or the load and definitely not the rifle. I run 185 Noslers at 2726 fps, seated 2.58 to the ogive about 3.29 OAL they buck the wind really well and will punch single hole groups at 100. I could run them faster but why punish my barrel for a 10th mil here or there, I have a 20 moa rail and a scope fully capable of any adjustments I could possibly need for anything well pass 1000 yards. You will not be disappointed building one but be sure it's on a long action, throated for at least 175s to take advantage of the high BC 7mm bullets and be patient with load development. Very mild recoil, especially with a brake more of a stiff shove, you'll love it.

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Re: What's Wrong With .284 Win ? [Re: Blanco] #8549874 03/07/22 04:53 AM
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Nothing at all. I love my dad’s .284 built on a milsurp FN 1924 action.
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WOW...that's a good lookin rifle !
Nice piece of lumber too !


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Originally Posted by Blanco
WOW...that's a good lookin rifle !
Nice piece of lumber too !


Thanks. The rifle is really handy feeling in the field. Love it.

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Nothing at all. I love my dad’s .284 built on a milsurp FN 1924 action.
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That is beautiful, like keep it in a case to and from the blind beautiful lol.


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Nothing at all. I love my dad’s .284 built on a milsurp FN 1924 action.
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That is beautiful, like keep it in a case to and from the blind beautiful lol.



That is some real gorgeous wood.




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