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Need GC Help Builging a House #8523660 02/05/22 02:18 PM
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Looking for GC help building a house. Mine burned down Sunday before Thanksgiving. Got all the demo work done even the slab. Want to save some money and GC it myself. unfortunately I do not know the first thing about how to start. Any help start to finish would be appreciated.

I'm not actually new here but my account was deactivated ans was easier just to set up a new one.

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I recommend Joel Carrington, he should be along shortly.


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Start?

Get your floor plan, then all your drawings. You need them on PDF file, so you can email them to subs. Of course printed copies on the job site as well.

Make a list of all the trades, in order of when they show up. Get those subs called, emailed, and get bids. Timeline for all of them of when they can get there is why they will need plenty of notice.

Foundation
Plumber
Framer
Roofer
Mason
Electric
HVAC
Foam installer
Sheet rock install, tape/bed/texture
Flooring
Paint
Cabinets
Trim

I did grade work and jobsite clean-up myself. But those subs also exist.


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Re: Need GC Help Builging a House [Re: Superduty] #8523727 02/05/22 03:16 PM
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I actually already have have the plans to the architect. The house and slab are already demoed.

Off topic question.Good caliber for 1,000 yard shooting?

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I understand they are demoed. A new foundation has to be built again. Concrete man, and plumber have got to work together. Concrete man is right after the dirt work (if you need dirt work) He stakes, forms, pier drills, trenches, then he has to stop. Let the plumber come in and do his thing. Then concrete crew comes back and finalizes it for the pour, cushion sand, plastic, rebar.

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Re: Need GC Help Builging a House [Re: J.G.] #8523766 02/05/22 03:47 PM
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.284 Winchester?

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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Start?

Get your floor plan, then all your drawings. You need them on PDF file, so you can email them to subs. Of course printed copies on the job site as well.

Make a list of all the trades, in order of when they show up. Get those subs called, emailed, and get bids. Timeline for all of them of when they can get there is why they will need plenty of notice.

Foundation
Plumber
Framer
Roofer
Mason
Electric
HVAC
Foam installer
Sheet rock install, tape/bed/texture
Flooring
Paint
Cabinets
Trim

I did grade work and jobsite clean-up myself. But those subs also exist.


Won't you pay about triple to 6x more by hiring these trades yourself?

I assumed a GC already has all these trades in hand and gets the newbies to work for cheap

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Originally Posted by Pop-Pop
.284 Winchester?


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Re: Need GC Help Builging a House [Re: RedRanger] #8523800 02/05/22 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RedRanger
Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Start?

Get your floor plan, then all your drawings. You need them on PDF file, so you can email them to subs. Of course printed copies on the job site as well.

Make a list of all the trades, in order of when they show up. Get those subs called, emailed, and get bids. Timeline for all of them of when they can get there is why they will need plenty of notice.

Foundation
Plumber
Framer
Roofer
Mason
Electric
HVAC
Foam installer
Sheet rock install, tape/bed/texture
Flooring
Paint
Cabinets
Trim

I did grade work and jobsite clean-up myself. But those subs also exist.


Won't you pay about triple to 6x more by hiring these trades yourself?

I assumed a GC already has all these trades in hand and gets the newbies to work for cheap


That was not the case for me.

I don't want cheap, I want right. Plenty of subs work for builder's sure. But they are still free-lance. They handle their own schedule. They ply their trade on a project, not caring who the top boss is.

My house easily doubles in value what It cost me to build it.


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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
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Start?

Get your floor plan, then all your drawings. You need them on PDF file, so you can email them to subs. Of course printed copies on the job site as well.

Make a list of all the trades, in order of when they show up. Get those subs called, emailed, and get bids. Timeline for all of them of when they can get there is why they will need plenty of notice.

Foundation
Plumber
Framer
Roofer
Mason
Electric
HVAC
Foam installer
Sheet rock install, tape/bed/texture
Flooring
Paint
Cabinets
Trim

I did grade work and jobsite clean-up myself. But those subs also exist.


Won't you pay about triple to 6x more by hiring these trades yourself?

I assumed a GC already has all these trades in hand and gets the newbies to work for cheap


That was not the case for me.

I don't want cheap, I want right. Plenty of subs work for builder's sure. But they are still free-lance. They handle their own schedule. They ply their trade on a project, not caring who the top boss is.

My house easily doubles in value what It cost me to build it.


I can't see any trade that requires a license for a homeowner to be able to hire them and not pay out the nose for their services

Re: Need GC Help Builging a House [Re: RedRanger] #8523827 02/05/22 04:30 PM
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Going rate for GC to do just the scheduling / hiring is 18% - 20% of the value of home. $400,000.00 home GC Charge is $72,000.00 @ 18%, 20% is $80,000.00. Then you have the liability of him either not being any good or walking away from the project because of material cost, financial problems or any other reason. Then taking all monies I have already given them. Only recourse is to sue them. Right now it takes 2-1/2 to 3 years to go to trial on a case like this. if they file for bankruptcy they are protected by law and may not get anything back or very little. If you go with a builder they already have the 18-20% (most likely more) built into the sale price of the house. Really just depends on the risk you are willing to take. if you GC yourself you could save thousands of $ and put back into your home.

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Originally Posted by FiremanJG
Originally Posted by RedRanger
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Start?

Get your floor plan, then all your drawings. You need them on PDF file, so you can email them to subs. Of course printed copies on the job site as well.

Make a list of all the trades, in order of when they show up. Get those subs called, emailed, and get bids. Timeline for all of them of when they can get there is why they will need plenty of notice.

Foundation
Plumber
Framer
Roofer
Mason
Electric
HVAC
Foam installer
Sheet rock install, tape/bed/texture
Flooring
Paint
Cabinets
Trim

I did grade work and jobsite clean-up myself. But those subs also exist.


Won't you pay about triple to 6x more by hiring these trades yourself?

I assumed a GC already has all these trades in hand and gets the newbies to work for cheap


That was not the case for me.

I don't want cheap, I want right. Plenty of subs work for builder's sure. But they are still free-lance. They handle their own schedule. They ply their trade on a project, not caring who the top boss is.

My house easily doubles in value what It cost me to build it.


The difference between you and the OP is this quote from his post, "unfortunately I do not know the first thing about how to start. Any help start to finish would be appreciated."

I built for over thirty years and quit when all the price insanity started a couple of years ago. I still communicate with some of the subs. I can say that the best subs are booked up with their regular builders until the next printing of calendars.

I've heard many good subs say that they won't work for a new do-it-yourself homebuilder.

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Even home builders are backed up. Right now Cuto in homes in Granbury start to finish is 12-18 months to complete.
Same with Tilson homes. It's even harder to find builders to build on your land versus their subdivisions.

You do have to get an an LLC license.

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Originally Posted by Pop-Pop
Even home builders are backed up. Right now Cuto in homes in Granbury start to finish is 12-18 months to complete.
Same with Tilson homes. It's even harder to find builders to build on your land versus their subdivisions.

You do have to get an an LLC license.



What is a LLC Licenses? New one to me. Do you mean you have to form a LLC?

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Originally Posted by DannyB
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Start?

Get your floor plan, then all your drawings. You need them on PDF file, so you can email them to subs. Of course printed copies on the job site as well.

Make a list of all the trades, in order of when they show up. Get those subs called, emailed, and get bids. Timeline for all of them of when they can get there is why they will need plenty of notice.

Foundation
Plumber
Framer
Roofer
Mason
Electric
HVAC
Foam installer
Sheet rock install, tape/bed/texture
Flooring
Paint
Cabinets
Trim

I did grade work and jobsite clean-up myself. But those subs also exist.


Won't you pay about triple to 6x more by hiring these trades yourself?

I assumed a GC already has all these trades in hand and gets the newbies to work for cheap


That was not the case for me.

I don't want cheap, I want right. Plenty of subs work for builder's sure. But they are still free-lance. They handle their own schedule. They ply their trade on a project, not caring who the top boss is.

My house easily doubles in value what It cost me to build it.


The difference between you and the OP is this quote from his post, "unfortunately I do not know the first thing about how to start. Any help start to finish would be appreciated."

I built for over thirty years and quit when all the price insanity started a couple of years ago. I still communicate with some of the subs. I can say that the best subs are booked up with their regular builders until the next printing of calendars.

I've heard many good subs say that they won't work for a new do-it-yourself homebuilder.


I know many subs who will not work for a GC either

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Pop Pop ,

I applaud your efforts, you have openly came here to fulfill a dream, not bluffing your way through. I think you will eventually build what you want, just be consistent and demand what YOU
want. There are answers here, just keep digging.

This country was built with efforts like yours.

Good luck


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Originally Posted by Pop-Pop
Even home builders are backed up. Right now Cuto in homes in Granbury start to finish is 12-18 months to complete.
Same with Tilson homes. It's even harder to find builders to build on your land versus their subdivisions.

You do have to get an an LLC license.


Nope. In Texas To become a general contractor , To build your home, you do not need to apply for a license at the state level. These licenses are mandated on a local level. You must therefore check whether your municipality or city requires you to get licensed to perform this type of work.

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Is insurance and a mortgage involved? If so, they may require a GC or home builder. Not saying that’s the best way, there are snakes everywhere, but both of those entities have a financial interest in getting you’re home rebuilt as quickly and efficiently as possible.


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Originally Posted by glens
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Even home builders are backed up. Right now Cuto in homes in Granbury start to finish is 12-18 months to complete.
Same with Tilson homes. It's even harder to find builders to build on your land versus their subdivisions.

You do have to get an an LLC license.


Nope. In Texas To become a general contractor , To build your home, you do not need to apply for a license at the state level. These licenses are mandated on a local level. You must therefore check whether your municipality or city requires you to get licensed to perform this type of work.


Texas has no such license as General Contractor. it doesn't exist.

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Originally Posted by RedRanger
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Even home builders are backed up. Right now Cuto in homes in Granbury start to finish is 12-18 months to complete.
Same with Tilson homes. It's even harder to find builders to build on your land versus their subdivisions.

You do have to get an an LLC license.


Nope. In Texas To become a general contractor , To build your home, you do not need to apply for a license at the state level. These licenses are mandated on a local level. You must therefore check whether your municipality or city requires you to get licensed to perform this type of work.


Texas has no such license as General Contractor. it doesn't exist.

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It is going through insurance and a mortgage co. I have already talked to both and being the GC is fine with them. Actually the insurance co lawyer suggested being my own GC. I already have the funds for the dwelling. Well it was made out to me and my mortgagor. Mortgage co will release funds per work scheduling. Even though I'm outside the city limits I still have to pull permits since it is an insurance claim.

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Johnson County does require me to get licensed. And so does the insurance company (since it is an insurance claim).

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Built my own did fine.

Prepare to be frustrated and deal with people stretching themselves. Don’t pay for labor until labors done. Weekly draw by % completed is acceptable. Material draw for material onsite is normal too.

Good luck.

Ignore red ranger he had to hire out finding a wife. DIY ain’t his deal.

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I can't see any trade that requires a license for a homeowner to be able to hire them and not pay out the nose for their services


Huh?


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