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Re: Stock Market
[Re: one73maro]
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01/12/22 01:38 AM
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tlk
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My 401K was up 23% last year. So far this year I'm down about 3-4%. The market is crazy and will drop several hundred points and then come right back up on a day or so. Just gotta let it ride! For some of us over 65 time isn't on my side, let it ride doesn't work. Yes I agree with you on this. If your close to retirement age you definitely want to have it in something more guaranteed. I know nothing is guaranteed (except death & taxes) but something less volatile with market change. wrong - there is something guaranteed - an immediate income annuity - pays you a monthly income (or you and your spouse) no matter what the account balance is - if you are looking for a lifelong guaranteed income then research immediate income annuities
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: tlk]
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01/12/22 03:13 AM
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My 401K was up 23% last year. So far this year I'm down about 3-4%. The market is crazy and will drop several hundred points and then come right back up on a day or so. Just gotta let it ride! For some of us over 65 time isn't on my side, let it ride doesn't work. Yes I agree with you on this. If your close to retirement age you definitely want to have it in something more guaranteed. I know nothing is guaranteed (except death & taxes) but something less volatile with market change. wrong - there is something guaranteed - an immediate income annuity - pays you a monthly income (or you and your spouse) no matter what the account balance is - if you are looking for a lifelong guaranteed income then research immediate income annuities If anyone following this is interested in asset protection you should look into the immediate annuity mentioned here. It's not for everyone. I determined it didn't suit my needs. However, one article I read referred to Texas and Florida as something like "annuity utopia." It is a state specific deal. Doctors flock to Florida and Texas and buy immediate annuities. Malpractice suits---bring it on. I haven't looked at this for a few years. If nothing has changed, if you are sued that immediate annuity somehow protects you, as in the person suing you cannot get to it. The drawback is once you commit to this type of annuity you are locked. You cannot get out of it. If I were to want one it would have to be with one of the top strongest insurance companies in the US. I briefly talked to a Northwestern Mutual Agent and then decided this wasn't for me.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
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01/12/22 03:43 AM
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I'm not even going to Google it because I like the current crop of adds I'm being served and don't want to see finance ads replace them. However I will say that there are dividend funds that don't have a lot of growth but they do have good income. Look into qyld and a couple others like it.
Upon us all, upon us all, a little rain must fall
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Gravytrain]
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01/12/22 03:52 AM
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DannyB
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I'm not even going to Google it because I like the current crop of adds I'm being served and don't want to see finance ads replace them. However I will say that there are dividend funds that don't have a lot of growth but they do have good income. Look into qyld and a couple others like it. What? You should have a Northwestern Mutual ad in your face just by reading the post.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
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01/12/22 04:00 AM
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Gravytrain]
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01/12/22 01:22 PM
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I'm not even going to Google it because I like the current crop of adds I'm being served and don't want to see finance ads replace them. However I will say that there are dividend funds that don't have a lot of growth but they do have good income. Look into qyld and a couple others like it. Yelp look at the 15 year average divided and performance on NLY
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: DannyB]
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01/12/22 01:28 PM
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I'm not even going to Google it because I like the current crop of adds I'm being served and don't want to see finance ads replace them. However I will say that there are dividend funds that don't have a lot of growth but they do have good income. Look into qyld and a couple others like it. What? You should have a Northwestern Mutual ad in your face just by reading the post. My ladies in the airport ads are gone! sad day.
Upon us all, upon us all, a little rain must fall
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
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01/12/22 01:36 PM
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: one73maro]
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01/12/22 01:38 PM
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My 401K was up 23% last year. So far this year I'm down about 3-4%. The market is crazy and will drop several hundred points and then come right back up on a day or so. Just gotta let it ride! Best advice I ever got was from the wealthiest man I personally know. "Put your money in the market, go long term and pay no attention to the market", Just look at the DOW over the last 30 years. That's about the same time I got into the market. It takes a hit from time to time but it always comes back and improves, when you constantly buy you take advantage of the hit's. https://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart
Last edited by HWY_MAN; 01/12/22 01:42 PM.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
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01/12/22 01:49 PM
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My IRA stays about the same after I take out my MDR.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
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01/12/22 01:59 PM
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Set it and forget it is what I've done for the last 19 years.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: bill oxner]
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01/12/22 02:29 PM
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don k
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My IRA stays about the same after I take out my MDR. RMD Bill
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
#8501856
01/12/22 02:59 PM
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The Dude Abides
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Key takeaways from JPM and BR 2022 outlook calls:
+ They expect a good stock market year with high single digits or low double digits return. Still favoring value over growth stocks but more balanced than 2021.
+ They expect higher returns coming from EM, Europe, China and Japan over US stocks in 2022.
+ They expect inflation to be around 3.5% in the next 2-3 months and 2.5% by the end of the year
+ They expect GDP to grow slower than in 2021 (was ~5.5%} to about ~3.5% in 2022
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: The Dude Abides]
#8501860
01/12/22 03:02 PM
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+ They expect inflation to be around 3.5% in the next 2-3 months and 2.5% by the end of the year
Lol....riiiight. Gotta be some magic bullet they must know about to solve ALL the problems.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
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01/12/22 03:04 PM
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The Dude Abides
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I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Cochise]
#8501864
01/12/22 03:06 PM
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The Dude Abides
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+ They expect inflation to be around 3.5% in the next 2-3 months and 2.5% by the end of the year
Lol....riiiight. Gotta be some magic bullet they must know about to solve ALL the problems. I guess we will see.
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: The Dude Abides]
#8501869
01/12/22 03:13 PM
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TLew
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Key takeaways from JPM and BR 2022 outlook calls:
+ They expect a good stock market year with high single digits or low double digits return. Still favoring value over growth stocks but more balanced than 2021.
+ They expect higher returns coming from EM, Europe, China and Japan over US stocks in 2022.
+ They expect inflation to be around 3.5% in the next 2-3 months and 2.5% by the end of the year
+ They expect GDP to grow slower than in 2021 (was ~5.5%} to about ~3.5% in 2022 Funny that they expect to see a good stock market year when the chart you posted shows midterm years suck
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
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01/12/22 03:16 PM
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Stump_jumper
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Sold a few losers yesterday. I may increase my position in oil stocks. NVDA also looks attractive right now.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Stump_jumper]
#8501961
01/12/22 04:21 PM
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Sniper John
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Sold a few losers yesterday. I may increase my position in oil stocks. NVDA also looks attractive right now. The only long swing trades I kept when I was doing my rebalancing recently was in Financial/Bank and Energy ETFs. I was late getting back into the Energy/Oil stuff and playing it fairly safe mostly in RYE which is equal weight fund, but it sure is doing well. I was considering increasing it as well.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sick Train]
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01/12/22 05:03 PM
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Set it and forget it is what I've done for the last 19 years. I mostly agree with this. Dollar cost averaging into a balanced portfolio in a ratio related to risk tolerance is the way to go. But I do regret not educating myself on investing and the stock market early in my career. Outside of a balanced portfolio, I wish I had set a portion aside for more risk, but researched, not speculative risk. And taking opportunities when it was obvious.
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
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01/12/22 06:10 PM
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Stump_jumper
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Sold a few losers yesterday. I may increase my position in oil stocks. NVDA also looks attractive right now. The only long swing trades I kept when I was doing my rebalancing recently was in Financial/Bank and Energy ETFs. I was late getting back into the Energy/Oil stuff and playing it fairly safe mostly in RYE which is equal weight fund, but it sure is doing well. I was considering increasing it as well. It was probably blind luck but I dumped a lot of oil stocks when Delta hit. Held the proceeds in cash and jumped back in when oil started to go back up.
2017 Tundra 5.7 CM 4x4 2006 Champion 2200 Bay Boat
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Stump_jumper]
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01/13/22 02:42 AM
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Gravytrain
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Sold a few losers yesterday. I may increase my position in oil stocks. NVDA also looks attractive right now. The only long swing trades I kept when I was doing my rebalancing recently was in Financial/Bank and Energy ETFs. I was late getting back into the Energy/Oil stuff and playing it fairly safe mostly in RYE which is equal weight fund, but it sure is doing well. I was considering increasing it as well. It was probably blind luck but I dumped a lot of oil stocks when Delta hit. Held the proceeds in cash and jumped back in when oil started to go back up. I thought the Halliburton chart looked good a couple of weeks ago after I noticed the rest of the sector was popping off. Hit my profit target a last week and bailed since it was going so slow, then yesterday the pop I had been waiting for hit. Oh well.
Upon us all, upon us all, a little rain must fall
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
#8502524
01/13/22 03:27 AM
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redchevy
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I’m 35 and never had anything invested in the stock market before other than my company retirement. We put a considerable sum for us in last week, hope it goes well.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: Sniper John]
#8502582
01/13/22 05:21 AM
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Buzzsaw
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only down $18,000 in my portfolio and it SUCKS !!!!
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Re: Stock Market
[Re: HWY_MAN]
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01/13/22 01:06 PM
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This year isn't starting off so bad. 2022 YTD Investments Personal Rate of Return 16.26% Year To Date
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