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300blk pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 02:45 AM
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Interest is solely for shooting pigs under 100 yards and from the Polaris. Running a suppressor. I’ve had plenty of 5.56 but never a blackout.
Do you find yourself grabbing the blackout pistol instead of the AR-10 rifle?
Budget would be for a Palmetto build. Which brace/optic do you prefer?
Last edited by scot; 11/26/21 03:25 AM.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 02:52 AM
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I have seen a blackout kill pigs and know someone who sold all that for 300 Hamr. Either will do it at the end of the day but Wilson has a ringer with that caliber in my personal opinion.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 03:13 AM
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Dzhitshard
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If you're not invested in that erectile disfunction of a super sonic cartridge I wouldn't dump $$ in it now. The HAM'R is a winner by a long stretch there and as much as I found it distasteful the 7.62x39 and 6.8spc beat the snot out of 300blk, especially in SBR/pistols. If you're set on a 300BLK, man have I got a deal for you. Do you want 9" 12.5" or 16"?
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 03:15 AM
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I’ve killed a lot of pigs with a 8” 300BLK suppressed with a thermal. I had a 16” 308 in the safe and absolutely never grabbed it. But if you’re shooting from a SxS then weight/form factor shouldn’t matter too much. But regardless a 8” 300BLK suppressed is a much smaller package than a 16” 308 suppressed.
I’m the one 2beez is talking about selling all my 300BLK for WC 300 HAM’R. In every way the HAM’R is the better round but if you’re wanting to get in for cheap with the PSA deals then BLK will work great. I used the 125gr Nosler BT in the BLK and they were a hammer under a 100 yards.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 03:25 AM
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Is the 300 hamr ammunition very available?
How cheap you want to let the 9” 300blk upper go?
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 03:27 AM
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Is the 300 hamr ammunition very available?
How cheap you want to let the 9” 300blk upper go? I reload all my ammo so not even sure on the availability but I know WC has it in stock pretty regularly. I just swapped barrel and rail on my existing upper so it’s not for sell.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 03:33 AM
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None will ever be a .308 Win.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 03:43 AM
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Bee'z
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I was not going to call you out like that Kyle. Facts are facts though. My hamr is alittle shorter than my .308 so it has a place in the stable.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 03:43 AM
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None will ever be a .308 Win. That’s also my concern but the 18” barrel and full rail is 10-12lbs before the can.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 04:56 AM
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Within 100 yards, the 300 blk is a great round...Within 200 yards, it's very effective. It's not a HAM'R, but, it will be more cost effective. I've killed countless pigs and one deer with it. It's been much more effective than .223. I have a few in 16" barrel, a d one 10" barrel.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 05:03 AM
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If it was between a HAMR and a Blackout, I’d go HAMR. It just has more thump.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 05:10 AM
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From one of my posts last year...
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 05:10 AM
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The Barnes Tac TX is the best supersonic bullet I have found in 300BO. I have 3 AAC Handi Rifles with different optics in 300BO and carry one in my Ranger every day. Hogs or deer never take a step after the shot. Don't be surprised if braces go away anyway. Our senile president signed an EO tasking the ATF Technology Branch with determining them to be a SBR.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 11:51 AM
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FYI the only ammo my Walmart has had for 18 months is 28 gauge and 300 HAMR so you can get it. The only good thing about BLK from a reloader's standpoint is there are 987654694 recipes and bullet powder combos for it.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 03:25 PM
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J.G.
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None will ever be a .308 Win. That’s also my concern but the 18” barrel and full rail is 10-12lbs before the can. So, make a 10" barreled .308
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 03:36 PM
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I’ve killed a number of deer with a 12” .300 Whisper, which is the ballistic equivalent of the .300 Blackout. As mentioned above, there are harder shooting calibers available, but I wouldn’t feel undergunned with a Blackout pistol. Back when I had the Whisper, cup and core bullets were the standard. With some of the newer bullet designs (mono metal, bonded) it has definitely helped some of the less powerful cartridges.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 03:45 PM
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None will ever be a .308 Win. That’s also my concern but the 18” barrel and full rail is 10-12lbs before the can. So, make a 10" barreled .308 Yeah do that!!
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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#8459646
11/26/21 03:59 PM
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Dzhitshard
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None will ever be a .308 Win. That’s also my concern but the 18” barrel and full rail is 10-12lbs before the can. So, make a 10" barreled .308 Yeah do that!! quite probably the most obnoxious pig popper combo I've ever played with. I'm not sure an unsuppressed 16" HAM'R is as loud as that rig I had with a 10" can on it. I saved a ton of ammo in that couple weeks just from not wanting to shoot it. lol
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/26/21 04:08 PM
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Dzhitshard
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I know a bunch of pigs have been killed with pistol 300BLK.
I've easily killed into the triple digits with it between vermin and deer myself but I'm going to stand by my comment that it's the equivalent of an erectile disfunction super sonic pistol length caliber. All of which I could have just as easily killed with a .22lr if I hadn't been so caught up with the HoneyBadger craze for a decade.
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Re: 300bo pistol wisdom/input
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11/28/21 03:30 AM
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Big Sam
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The group I hunt with has easily taken a couple hundred Texas hogs in the last 7 years. Fully half of them have been with 10" +/- 300 BLK's. All have been within 100 yards and most around 50 yards. The favorite bullet is the 135gr FTX bullet. Some just started using the Barnes 110gr load and the rest have been with the 125gr SST. The 125gr SST just does not put the piggies down as hard as the 135gr FTX.
But there is killing hogs with a search to find them after they run off and there is DRT. So there is a major emphasis for CNS hits if at all possible. Most everything works well with a CNS hit. Without that the hogs run 20 to 100 yard before they figure out they are dead. This has been a common problem with 6.5 Grendel, 300 BLK, 7.62X39, 308, 270, 30-06 and even 35 Whelen. In the last 2 years the guys with 308 AR's have gotten good knockdown non CNS hits with the 150gr SST bullet. If there is any magic here its the cartridge and specific bullet into a specific hog. Always be prepared for the follow up shot.
In summary.... most of our history says the 300 BLK with the 135gr Hornady FTX bullet is as good on hogs as anything up to a 30-06 inside 100 yards. Most of our history says you better get very good at CNS hits unless you like searching the brush for dead or wounded hogs. It is easier to make precise CNS hits with soft shooting cartridges. Last year I shot a 50lb hog at 40 yards with a 150gr Speer Gold Dot made for the BLK. The bullet left the 10" barrel and went in the front of the chest (she was running) and she did not take another step. So you never know.
Despite all my history with the BLK, as soon as the 300 Ham'r came out I wanted one and finally got one this summer. It will be my rifle of choice for next years hunt. It may end up being the best of all worlds. Hope so. It will be fun finding out.
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