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11/15/21 06:01 PM
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I was taught as a kid to shoot right behind the front leg, that was 40 yrs ago. For the last 15yrs I have been lining up with the front of the front leg and high point of the shoulder or even a couple inches higher and getting anchoring shots. I shot a good buck last week that took a 215 berger from my 300PRC at 100yds and ran 40yds fast before he fell, I was about 2 inches further back than I normally would have liked to been. This is the only animal that hasn't fell in his tracks in the past 10yrs. I shot a stone sheep ram at 427yds and a mnt goat at 611yds in British Columbia in October that dropped dead. Except the ram rolled over 500yds into a aspend tree. What do you guys feel like is the best shot placement?
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11/15/21 06:08 PM
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Erich
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If you're looking for the biggest target with the most forgiveness/allowance for margin of error its hard to argue with center-punching the front shoulder or some variation of it. this will usually drop an animal in its tracks but you may have a few go a small distance that aren't hard to find. This is where i was taught as a kid to aim and where i've taught my kids to aim. After i grew up some more and found some confidence in my marksmanship from the blind i shot some deer in the neck or even head to make the cleaning easier. I've circled back to shooting them in the body though. Myself...i usually try to get tight behind the front shoulder to avoid blasting the shoulder blades. in general though i'm capable of more precise accuracy but i figure by the time i'm pulling down on an animal i'm looking for the most certain harvest i can get and or a shot that will provide me the best odds of recovery if the shot doesn't go exactly right.
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11/15/21 06:09 PM
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Re: shot placement
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11/15/21 06:13 PM
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unclebubba
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The high shoulder is a good one, but every time I have taken it, I destroy a lot of shoulder meat. I don't take the same shot every time. Depending on the animal and the position that they are in, I might take a neck shot, high shoulder, or traditional center of vitals. More often than not, I go for center vitals.
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11/15/21 06:37 PM
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stxranchman
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I have been shooting the high shoulder, point of the shoulder or quartering to shoulder crease shot the last 29 yrs now. I do not like tracking deer.
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#8449410
11/15/21 07:52 PM
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txmasterpo
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Behind the shoulder but high shocks the spine.....I have never lost a game animal.....44 years
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#8449483
11/15/21 08:45 PM
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ILUVBIGBUCKS
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High fence, low fence, no fence, it really doesn't matter as long as you're hunting!
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#8449485
11/15/21 08:53 PM
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Ol Thumper
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I aim behind the front shoulder like an archery shot period on deer, they may move a few yards but I’ve never lost one in 40 years of shooting them this way. Hit them with a 500 plus grain projectile and it doesn’t much matter. I hit a pig in the guts with a round from a Nitro Express Saturday and it crumpled like a head shot, it all depends on the amount of energy transferred to the victim and the amount of shock the bullet transfers to the closest vital organ or spine. I’m a big fan of chunking large lead but I tend to be a bit overzealous at times 
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#8449487
11/15/21 08:56 PM
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I wasn't trying to pop the corn! I'm going to keep taking that high shoulder shot just as I've had great results with lots of animals. Just trying to have a civil discussion, but i was amazed that the 12 point buck ran 40 yds when 95% of the time they just fall straight down and don't move.
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11/15/21 09:01 PM
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Ol Thumper
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I wasn't trying to pop the corn! I'm going to keep taking that high shoulder shot just as I've had great results with lots of animals. Just trying to have a civil discussion, but i was amazed that the 12 point buck ran 40 yds when 95% of the time they just fall straight down and don't move. I’ve shot deer and pigs with a 750g bullet from a BMG and had them both run up to a hundred yards, like humans animals have an uncanny way of going into survival mode at times so I wouldn’t put to much thought into it. Stick with what works and expect the unexpected,,
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11/15/21 09:03 PM
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11/15/21 09:05 PM
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#8449501
11/15/21 09:05 PM
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High shoulder or armpit about 6" up to hit the heart. Both with Texas deer and my 30.06 go straight down dead. I have only shot 10 deer or so but seems to me if you hit them in front of the diaphragm with bow or rifle they die.
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11/15/21 09:06 PM
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11/15/21 09:55 PM
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Usually a vitals shot for me, but every now and then a neck shot if necessary. As someone mentioned above - hate to waste meat. Great pics BTW - that ram is one beautiful animal! Congrats sir!
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11/15/21 10:07 PM
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I am normally a double lung heart kind of guy to save meat but last year I was hunting alone one afternoon and a PB buck came out the last 15 minutes of light and I didn’t feel like trying to track in the dark by myself so I shot him in the shoulder. He went straight down and now I have a new appreciation for a shoulder shot.  I guess both ways have their benefits.
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11/15/21 10:12 PM
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unclebubba
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I am normally a double lung heart kind of guy to save meat but last year I was hunting alone one afternoon and a PB buck came out the last 15 minutes of light and I didn’t feel like trying to track in the dark by myself so I shot him in the shoulder. He went straight down and now I have a new appreciation for a shoulder shot.  I guess both ways have their benefits. Agree. They both have their benefits for sure. Those of you that do the high shoulder, are you losing a lot of shoulder meat as well?
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#8449593
11/15/21 10:14 PM
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stxranchman
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Re: shot placement
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#8449594
11/15/21 10:14 PM
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scottfromdallas
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Morning= Heart Lung Evening= High Shoulder
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#8449608
11/15/21 10:22 PM
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DSpur72
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The white patch just below the chin or the upper 1/3rd of the neck. There is no running/chasing, there is no wondering if I hit it and there is no wasted meat. They are dead right there...
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#8449638
11/15/21 10:46 PM
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depends on what you want to happen after if your not worried about tracking right in the shoulder crease... and always this for .250 and under rounds...
anything above and you hardly want to track taking the mid shoulder out is always my go to... high shoulder has highest knock down potential but you need to be careful with what angle your shooting at when taking that shot imo.
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#8449639
11/15/21 10:47 PM
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#8449661
11/15/21 11:16 PM
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The_Whitetail_Kid
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On thinner skinned game like deer I aim right in the square center of the shoulder. This shot either drops them or causes them not to go 20. I know lots of people worry about losing meat but getting an animal down ethically is way more important to me than losing some meat.
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#8449765
11/16/21 12:48 AM
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Neck shooter here….the older I get and the worse my eyes get I’m more front shoulder/heart area most times over 100 yards.
Last edited by Davis300; 11/16/21 01:23 AM.
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