They don’t have to secure the weapon (their call). I have never been asked to hand over any weapons, and I’ve never had my vehicle searched. I have only been told to keep my weapon where it is and keep my hands where he can see them.

Basically, you give up your 4th amendment right when you get a LTC. When a police officer knows you have a firearm, or thinks you do, they have to secure the weapon, which is probable cause to search. Even if you give them your sidearm, they can search the vehicle with probable cause. "I thought he had another firearm in the vehicle and i was trying to secure it for the safety of the defendant and the public" is all a judge needs to hear.

Basically, you give up your 4th amendment right when you get a LTC. When a police officer knows you have a firearm, or thinks you do, they have to secure the weapon, which is probable cause to search. Even if you give them your sidearm, they can search the vehicle with probable cause. "I thought he had another firearm in the vehicle and i was trying to secure it for the safety of the defendant and the public" is all a judge needs to hear.

Basically, you give up your 4th amendment right when you get a LTC. When a police officer knows you have a firearm, or thinks you do, they have to secure the weapon, which is probable cause to search. Even if you give them your sidearm, they can search the vehicle with probable cause. "I thought he had another firearm in the vehicle and i was trying to secure it for the safety of the defendant and the public" is all a judge needs to hear.

None of this is correct.

You do not give up any part of your 4th Amendment rights with an LTC.
We do not have to secure the weapon and most that I know of do not in a traffic stop scenario.
Legally carrying a firearm does not even come close to probable cause to search a vehicle.
If an officer made that statement to a magistrate to justify a search, that officer should probably find another line of work.

x2 on what Grizz said...

Basically, you give up your 4th amendment right when you get a LTC. When a police officer knows you have a firearm, or thinks you do, they have to secure the weapon, which is probable cause to search. Even if you give them your sidearm, they can search the vehicle with probable cause. "I thought he had another firearm in the vehicle and i was trying to secure it for the safety of the defendant and the public" is all a judge needs to hear.

None of this is correct.

You do not give up any part of your 4th Amendment rights with an LTC.
We do not have to secure the weapon and most that I know of do not in a traffic stop scenario.
Legally carrying a firearm does not even come close to probable cause to search a vehicle.
If an officer made that statement to a magistrate to justify a search, that officer should probably find another line of work.

Do us a favor, don't ever post on this forum again. You're absolutely clueless.

Wow… this is why you don’t ask for legal information on a forum. Streater you really have no idea wtf you’re talking about.

Here's an interesting article about Texas Government Code 411.207, which states that the officer can secure your firearm, and that they can legally go through your vehicle to do so. Not trying to stir up a hornets nest. Just trying to learn so I avoid making anymore jack-arse statements in the future about this. https://www.walkertaylorlaw.com/post/can-an-officer-disarm-me

No one cares, N-SACK, JACK-WAGON, your credibility is eFF'n shot!!!

Thank you for the clarification. The info I got was from the guy at the Plano Gun Club when I took my LTC class. I appreciate the correction. Thank you Sir!

Here's an interesting article about Texas Government Code 411.207, which states that the officer can secure your firearm, and that they can legally go through your vehicle to do so. Not trying to stir up a hornets nest. Just trying to learn so I avoid making anymore jack-arse statements in the future about this. https://www.walkertaylorlaw.com/post/can-an-officer-disarm-me

I got pulled over in Plano for a dim bulb on my license plate and I told the gent I was carrying, at which time he said that was good to hear and that if I wouldn't shoot him he wouldn't shoot me back...

The article linked is just the interpretation of a law firm and part of it is 100% incorrect. Officers can disarm a person during the contact if they choose, but this part is way off:
"During a traffic stop, if an officer is told there is a gun in the vehicle, even if no crime is suspected, under the pretext of officer safety, the officer could search an entire vehicle."
In order to search a vehicle without a warrant or consent, the officer must have probable cause. By definition, probable cause to search means the officer has probable cause to believe there is contraband (something illegal to possess under those circumstances) or evidence of a crime in the vehicle. Consequently, their assertion that an officer can search the whole car even if no crime is suspected is completely false. Believe it or not, some of the worst legal interpretations I've ever heard came from lawyers, particularly criminal defense lawyers.

That ain't going to happen, Peckerwood.

Please change your name to CRAWFISH, as you went back and edited your text from "they have to secure the weapon" to "the officer can secure your firearm". Your original statement was 100% wrong.