I hope it happens, but very seriously doubt it will. I don’t see the feds relinquishing their $200 per copy for no state.. in fact I think they wanna gather them all up and take it all away.

Time will tell, certainly does smell like some political posturing BS though!

Going to be a bunch of made in TX stamped suppressor/mufflers going out of machine shops that the ATF will never have the privilege of knowing about

As much as I wish this would come to fruition and not have consequences that ain’t going to happen on the Feds watch!

If this bill is signed into law (and any machine shop can manufacture cans) I have two words of advice:

PAY CASH!

I think other states of gone down this path. Any court challenges from the Feds?

Same....no way I am paying a pointless tax and waiting for months to own a suppressor. For me, there isn’t enough value under the current conditions. Just my opinion. I always said, once I can walk in and walk out with a suppressor I will consider buying one.

Read the bill and the article at the attached link https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/t...de-suppressors-made-from-nfa-regulation/



Thus at a minimum, this bill we eliminate any state law criminalizing suppressors. That alone is a step in the right direction.

#3 is really the important one here. A declaratory judgement stating that ATF can't regulate these items due to lack of an interstate commerce hook is the best possible outcome. As others have said, I don't want to be the guinea pig on this one based on how things went in Kansas when they tried something similar. Granted their attempt was different (definitely weaker), but I don't want to be the guy to waiting for years for SCOTUS to overturn a felony conviction for me. At least with the Declaratory judgment, there is a procedure for the case to be fully adjudicated without criminal charges being filed against anyone

This legislation is completely ridiculous and nothing but a feel good measure to Texas politicians to point to in their next reelection bid.

First, state law cannot be less restrictive than federal law, period. Yes, marijuana has been legalized by several states, but it remains illegal federally. The DOJ has officially stated that it is no intention of enforcing federal laws in states where it is legal, but there is nothing preventing them from changing that position, and states could not do anything about it. Since the feds have expressed no intention whatsoever to quit enforcing the NFA, there is nothing states can do about it. Federal law is the floor for what a state can allow.

Second, there is no way to manufacture anything without having ties to interstate commerce. Not just from a practical perspective, but a legal one. Even if the ore was mined in Texas, and the whole manufacturing process took place in Texas, it would still be subject to regulation under the interstate commerce clause because the activity would affect other manufacturers out of state, and had the suppressors not been made in Texas, the consumer would have purchased one from out of state. It seems absurd, but there are U.S. Supreme court cases going back over a hundred years where a farmer grew wheat on his own farm for his consumption on that farm. The Supreme Court held that he was subject to federal regulation under the interstate commerce clause because by growing that wheat, it stopped him from buying wheat from out of state and thus effected interstate commerce. It is absurd, but that is the state of the law.

Third, regardless of what the legislation says, no federal court will hear it without a "live case or controversy". Federal courts do not give advisory opinions and that has also been the case for hundreds of years. They will never chime in on a hypothetical prosecution. The only way to test the legality of the new statute would be for someone to be convicted of violating the NFA, and then appeal.

I have no idea why Texas insists on passing clearly unconstitutional legislation lately, but this is one of the most blatantly unenforceable bills I have ever seen. I would love for ATF to get out of suppressors, but the fact of the matter is the states are not in the drivers seat on this issue.

That's what needs to change.

If this law helps set a precedent to that end, then I'm all for it.

Damn man yall want suppressor's off the NFA or what?! Lol





Well if the DOJ isn't doing crapola then smoke if you got em...stop the doomsday thinking.

BINGO

If this passes, nobody is going to make them. Nobody is going to go to federal prison because of some empty state legislation. Thinking this will circumvent the NFA, is a waste of time, just like the legislation.

So let me get this straight, Texas the state that has motto’s like “Come and Take It” And “ Remember the Alamo” “Don’t Mess with Texas “ ya’ll don’t think there is a entrepreneurial spirit out there that will take advantage of this?

I would bet otherwise.

Me Too! Im all for hearing protection, especially at my age.
Atleast its not one of those bills, that those clowns in DC pass that they say "we gotta pass it before we know whats in it"

I don’t think the tenth amendment is well understood; “ The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” The NFA was not a power delegated to the the federal government, it was a tax used to prosecute gangsters in the 1930s. States passing these kinds of bills can also strengthen support for the SHUSH Act currently in the US Senate.

The manufacturer and possession of a Texas made suppressor, not flaunted on the internet or reported by a pissed off ex or snowflake kid would be almost impossible for the ATF to find, let alone prosecute. The bill doesn’t require record keeping.

This thread is hilarious thinking the feds are going to turn the cheek if this passes. They will not lose that revenue.

Oh there will be plenty of idiots with entrepreneurial spirit and the come take it attitude. If this does pass, Shortly after we will be posting about how stupid they are when the the feds nail them and it makes google news.

There is plenty of people here with enough money to make them. I bet $100 dollars to anyone if this passes you won’t go make one and plaster it all over the net and flaunt that thing. If you do I’ll gladly give you the $100 to help out with legal fees.

It’s the feds y’all stop dreaming.

To the feds, it's not about the money.

Do you really think with the trillions of national debt we have, they care about $200?

They spend more than all NFA items have ever brought in on diapers for illegal babies, daily.

It's about dissuading you from owning one, not only with the fee, but the red tape, paperwork, and humiliation of having to ask permission for something related to common sense and contained in the Bill of Rights.

It's about control.... GUN control.

It's about control.... GUN control

and subjects control. You need our permission to __________.

I concur.......y’all scaredy-cats give the feds way too much credit for their bravery.....I remember reading the same predictions about the feds sending in the storm troopers to shut down all the marijuana stores.... that ship has sailed and they don’t have man power or will to step into states they are outnumbered by the millions to show how powerful they are, LOL!!!!!......just like they were going to show that ranching family in Nevada who’s in charge......until they were outnumbered and outgunned......

It's not because they are afraid.

Public opinion/action keeps them nipping at our heals rather than going for our throats.

If they thought they could survive going for our throats, they would... in two shakes of a lamb's tail.

I spoke to somebody in the city council about this. Really all this law would do would be to get a argument going in the state and federal courts about whether this law can be made legal in Texas. It is unlikely that it can. so I would advise not buying a suppressor if this is bill passes until the word officially comes down from Austin to do so

Wealthy ranch owners and, at the time a very powerful cattle industry, lobbied Congress to add silencers to the NFA, due their belief that the devices would be used to poach cattle during the depression. SBR's and machine guns were what the legislation was created for, but the cattle barons pushed silencers in as Congress was hashing out the particulars. Silencers were never even indented to be part of the NFA.

https://www.capitolarmory.com/blog/1934-the-birth-of-american-gun-control.html