You are [censored] burnt! Do you realize that??

C'mon Sir, you are embarrassing yourself.

Three vet's at the VA on my wife's floor got their second shots Thursday, all three had reactions and were sick today. Don't know how bad it is.

It's not funny, actually.

I thought the whole “operation warp speed” was because they basically had to “militarize” it so to speak, to bypass the FDA.

But the FDA is the govt...I’m confused now.

Got to love DC throwing in some idiot thinking for post count.

You D man Sneaky...

Hey there Dusty. find a post where I'm a huge fan. I said I got it and that I've had many vaccinations while in the military. One more wouldn't hurt. What have you done for your country lately? Find out which country owns the rights to GMO patents while your at it.

Research the secret vaccine court. All of the vaccine manufacturers have total immunity against suits. Your tax dollars pay for all the vaccine harm.

So what exactly do the anti-vaxers think is going to happen?

What is in this vaccine that you are scared about?

The mortality rate is less the 1% for one...... not to mention they rushed it to market in seven month. A process that usually takes 4-5 years...... also chances are way more people have already had covid without even knowing it.......they have already been immunized naturally.

If you were to count those who died from Covid not with it, I suspect that number to be much much lower. I know 3 people who are listed as Covid deaths, one was a friend, all had preexisting conditions such as diabetes, heart disease and obesity.

My understanding is the approval process, i.e., the FDA’s red tape, is what takes several years. Trump asked the FDA to issue an Emergency Use Authorization to help get the approval process shortened, meaning cut out the red tape. From the OP’s link: “ This enables the FDA to authorize the emergency use of medical products that meet the criteria within weeks rather than months to years.” The vaccines were still tested (trials across the globe were held late last year). The Emergency Use Authorization moved the vaccines to the front of the line and does require “significantly less data” than otherwise would be required. Trump pushed for this, and it was the right move.

The vaccine technology itself isn’t new, this is just the first one authorized in the US. mRNA vaccines have been studied for decades for the flu, rabies, Zika and other diseases. This is the future of vaccines. Scientists have been trying to find a vaccine that would cover pretty much all viral outbreaks and be future proof. The idea is to have one vaccine that would work for any current and future potential viral pandemic, basically eradicating viral pandemics forever.

A major benefit of mRNA vaccines is that it takes less time from design to testing than traditional vaccines.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/hcp/mrna-vaccine-basics.html

To the OP: “Vax not FDA approved” is misleading. It was authorized by the FDA on an emergency use basis, which can be rescinded at any time. It was tested on thousands of people last year. Tens of thousands of people received vaccines in the testing phase in the US alone, and the analysis phase was still handled by the FDA, as you can read in their letter to Moderna below. The vaccines were moved to the front of the line due to it being a pandemic. Here is the FDA’s letter to Moderna regarding the EUA for its vaccine:



https://www.fda.gov/media/144636/download

As someone else said, this is about individual risk assessment. It should have been the entire time. Instead, politicians used a broad brush and tanked the economy and did more harm than good. After the two week shutdown to try to get PPE and ventilators to hospitals, the shutdowns should have ended, as they said they would. The CDC should have issued guidelines on what to do to protect yourself and it should have been left to the states/local governments and ultimately the individuals. The same should apply to the vaccine. If you want it, get it. If you don’t, don’t.

That’s the way everything in this country should work. Individuals should be able to make their own informed decisions. Government should issue relevant information, not rule over us under the guise of “it’s for your own good.”

I know a bit about GMOs. I do research with them daily. They are real bad though, need to be real scared

There's a long list of possibilities that can happen. That's the point, it is the unknown, because it is experimental.

The virus itself is not a death sentence. In fact, 96% survive.

From what I've seen about a third of Fire/EMS got vaccinated. We keep getting it offered, and 2/3 of us keep turning it down. Evidently you're in the other third. Completely your choice, no judgement from me.

But what about the actual vaccine are you worried about? I understand the idea that it may not be needed due to the statistics and I understand some apprehension due to the rushed approval.

But what exactly is in the vaccine or what about how it works is bothering you?

Nothing but I'm not going to go get a shot for something I'm not scared of. I've never had a flu shot, don't plan to get a flu shot, and on the same hand don't plan to get the covid shot

Taking medical advice from a guy who almost died due to his ego and extreme stubbornness is laughable at best.

Here is the weird thing... Asking if someone has or has had covid is protected health information. Heck, even asking about or divulging where you might have gotten the virus is protected health info.
However, asking about someone’s China Flu vaccine status and even requiring a vaccine is not.

I don’t know your particular health status and I understand the risk offset of those that have underlying conditions. But for healthy people... What are you gaining by taking the vaccine? What is you proof?

What did I miss?

The process of making cheese remained the same for over 2000 years. While an excellent food source, it spoiled quickly once it was exposed to air. James L Kraft invented a way to make pasteurized american cheese with a long shelf life. He invested his life savings into making this new cheese and if it wasn't for WWII, would have gone bankrupt. The reason? People did not trust the science of how this new cheese was made.

Some of ya'll are just afraid to eat the cheese.