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Dueling #8183193 02/25/21 02:48 AM
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Would you support re-legalized dueling to settle a grievance, using rules from Code Duello of course?

This was a set up activity back in the day, not just a spur of the moment thing.

Would you support re-legalized dueling?
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Yes (55%, 42 Votes)
No (45%, 35 Votes)
Total Votes: 77
Voting on this poll ends: 02/28/21 02:46 AM

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Re: Dueling [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8183200 02/25/21 02:51 AM
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I’ll be your huckleberry.... slinger


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Re: Dueling [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8183209 02/25/21 03:02 AM
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Where's the f*** yeah option?


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Let's see how many threads we can bring The Holy Grail in to today. This is two:



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Re: Dueling [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8183233 02/25/21 03:26 AM
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I think playing chicken with trucks is a better option[b][/b]


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duel

Re: Dueling [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8183248 02/25/21 03:35 AM
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Russian roulette would make it more a spectator sport, PPV up


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Re: Dueling [Re: BOBO the Clown] #8183257 02/25/21 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
I think playing chicken with trucks is a better option[b][/b]



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Re: Dueling [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8183262 02/25/21 03:46 AM
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Nah. One means of competition has nothing to do with the right or wrong of another.


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I would imagine that it would disarm the leftists of their insults when the aggrieved party could ask for satisfaction via the code.


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You bet. If we can eliminate half of the idiots in this country, one duel at a time, then let’s get after it.

Re: Dueling [Re: BOBO the Clown] #8183280 02/25/21 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
I think playing chicken with trucks is a better option[b][/b]


Sledgehammer fight in 6 feet of water.


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Re: Dueling [Re: nsmike] #8183282 02/25/21 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by nsmike
I would imagine that it would disarm the leftists of their insults when the aggrieved party could ask for satisfaction via the code.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr–Hamilton_duel


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Re: Dueling [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8183319 02/25/21 04:22 AM
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Code Duello


Rule 1. The first offense requires the first apology, though the retort may have been more offensive than the insult. Example: A tells B he is impertinent, etc. B retorts that he lies; yet A must make the first apology because he gave the first offense, and then (after one fire) B may explain away the retort by a subsequent apology.

Rule 2. But if the parties would rather fight on, then after two shots each (but in no case before), B may explain first, and A apologize afterward.

N.B. The above rules apply to all cases of offenses in retort not of stronger class than the example.

Rule 3. If a doubt exist who gave the first offense, the decision rests with the seconds; if they won't decide, or can't agree, the matter must proceed to two shots, or to a hit, if the challenger require it.

Rule 4. When the lie direct is the first offense, the aggressor must either beg pardon in express terms; exchange two shots previous to apology; or three shots followed up by explanation; or fire on till a severe hit be received by one party or the other.

Rule 5. As a blow is strictly prohibited under any circumstances among gentlemen, no verbal apology can be received for such an insult. The alternatives, therefore -- the offender handing a cane to the injured party, to be used on his own back, at the same time begging pardon; firing on until one or both are disabled; or exchanging three shots, and then asking pardon without proffer of the cane.

If swords are used, the parties engage until one is well blooded, disabled, or disarmed; or until, after receiving a wound, and blood being drawn, the aggressor begs pardon.

N.B. A disarm is considered the same as a disable. The disarmer may (strictly) break his adversary's sword; but if it be the challenger who is disarmed, it is considered as ungenerous to do so.

In the case the challenged be disarmed and refuses to ask pardon or atone, he must not be killed, as formerly; but the challenger may lay his own sword on the aggressor's shoulder, then break the aggressor's sword and say, "I spare your life!" The challenged can never revive the quarrel -- the challenger may.

Rule 6. If A gives B the lie, and B retorts by a blow (being the two greatest offenses), no reconciliation can take place till after two discharges each, or a severe hit; after which B may beg A's pardon humbly for the blow and then A may explain simply for the lie; because a blow is never allowable, and the offense of the lie, therefore, merges in it. (See preceding rules.)

N.B. Challenges for undivulged causes may be reconciled on the ground, after one shot. An explanation or the slightest hit should be sufficient in such cases, because no personal offense transpired.

Rule 7. But no apology can be received, in any case, after the parties have actually taken ground, without exchange of fires.

Rule 8. In the above case, no challenger is obliged to divulge his cause of challenge (if private) unless required by the challenged so to do before their meeting.

Rule 9. All imputations of cheating at play, races, etc., to be considered equivalent to a blow; but may be reconciled after one shot, on admitting their falsehood and begging pardon publicly.

Rule 10. Any insult to a lady under a gentleman's care or protection to be considered as, by one degree, a greater offense than if given to the gentleman personally, and to be regulated accordingly.

Rule 11. Offenses originating or accruing from the support of ladies' reputations, to be considered as less unjustifiable than any others of the same class, and as admitting of slighter apologies by the aggressor: this to be determined by the circumstances of the case, but always favorable to the lady.

Rule 12. In simple, unpremeditated recontres with the smallsword, or couteau de chasse, the rule is -- first draw, first sheath, unless blood is drawn; then both sheath, and proceed to investigation.

Rule 13. No dumb shooting or firing in the air is admissible in any case. The challenger ought not to have challenged without receiving offense; and the challenged ought, if he gave offense, to have made an apology before he came on the ground; therefore, children's play must be dishonorable on one side or the other, and is accordingly prohibited.

Rule 14. Seconds to be of equal rank in society with the principals they attend, inasmuch as a second may either choose or chance to become a principal, and equality is indispensible.

Rule 15. Challenges are never to be delivered at night, unless the party to be challenged intend leaving the place of offense before morning; for it is desirable to avoid all hot-headed proceedings.

Rule 16. The challenged has the right to choose his own weapon, unless the challenger gives his honor he is no swordsman; after which, however, he can decline any second species of weapon proposed by the challenged.

Rule 17. The challenged chooses his ground; the challenger chooses his distance; the seconds fix the time and terms of firing.

Rule 18. The seconds load in presence of each other, unless they give their mutual honors they have charged smooth and single, which should be held sufficient.

Rule 19. Firing may be regulated -- first by signal; secondly, by word of command; or thirdly, at pleasure -- as may be agreeable to the parties. In the latter case, the parties may fire at their reasonable leisure, but second presents and rests are strictly prohibited.

Rule 20. In all cases a miss-fire is equivalent to a shot, and a snap or non-[censored] is to be considered as a miss-fire.

Rule 21. Seconds are bound to attempt a reconciliation before the meeting takes place, or after sufficient firing or hits, as specified.

Rule 22. Any wound sufficient to agitate the nerves and necessarily make the hand shake, must end the business for that day.

Rule 23. If the cause of the meeting be of such a nature that no apology or explanation can or will be received, the challenged takes his ground, and calls on the challenger to proceed as he chooses; in such cases, firing at pleasure is the usual practice, but may be varied by agreement.

Rule 24. In slight cases, the second hands his principal but one pistol; but in gross cases, two, holding another case ready charged in reserve.

Rule 25. Where seconds disagree, and resolve to exchange shots themselves, it must be at the same time and at right angles with their principals, thus:

If with swords, side by side, with five paces interval.

N.B. All matters and doubts not herein mentioned will be explained and cleared up by application to the committee, who meet alternately at Clonmel and Galway, at the quarter sessions, for that purpose.


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Re: Dueling [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8183326 02/25/21 04:31 AM
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That is how the Brits lost the war. F that


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Originally Posted by 2Beez
That is how the Brits lost the war. F that


That’s an interesting take. But I seem to remember something about that from a program. Enlighten us please.


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Originally Posted by TurkeyHunter
Originally Posted by 2Beez
That is how the Brits lost the war. F that


That’s an interesting take. But I seem to remember something about that from a program. Enlighten us please.


A program of a play you have seen I assume. I am out on those...


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Originally Posted by 2Beez
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That is how the Brits lost the war. F that


That’s an interesting take. But I seem to remember something about that from a program. Enlighten us please.


A program of a play you have seen I assume. I am out on those...


Some program about history or something I read saying that ongoing dueling was reducing the number of British officers. Is that what you were referring?


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I’ll be honest, I’m a decent pistol shot on a good day. I’ll Pass.


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I think we are on the same page. I could not name it but my bad.


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You bet as long as my opponent brings a knife to my gunfight. trout

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Can I shoot my own pistol?


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If I remember correctly the challenged party gets to choose the weapon. I used to fence a bit, so I would choose swords, not too many people have any skill with a blade.


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Originally Posted by dogcatcher
Can I shoot my own pistol?


Yes if challenged, not the challenger, and you would have to bring two identical. The seconds in today’s time would likely negotiate the opportunity for training and practice beforehand with that specific pistol.

The seconds from each side would make sure they are loaded properly. The challenger would have first pick of one of the identical pistols just before the duel.


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