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Lumber futures hit all time high
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02/18/21 04:01 PM
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fadetoblack64
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/lumber-futures-hit-record-high-1000-gold-slumps-7-month-lowsTheyre saying up 30%............. I say its more, and that's if you can get it. A couple of hurricanes or west coast fires and a earthquake...............oh my. Even a stupid little quarter acre lot here in Durant is 20-35k. The price of a house or remodel is going to get stupider. There is no house inventory for sale. Rockwall only has about 40 or 50 used houses for sale total. Nobody is selling because they cant find another house to buy or another house they can afford.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/18/21 04:05 PM
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erathar
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This may time perfect. May end up selling for 100k more than we paid 3 years ago and moving into inlaws guest house until things calm down.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 04:11 AM
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Big_Country01
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It's all a bunch of BS. Standing timber prices are dirt cheap.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 04:21 AM
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Mike Honcho
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Spoke to contractor today when he came by to assess damage and he’s talking for remodeling work apart from claim he’s thinking it’ll cost $20k for what we want. I was shocked it isn’t wasn’t a crazy makeover. Just a spruce up more than anything.
“Two things that define an individual what you do when you have everything, and what you do when you have nothing."
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 04:21 AM
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DannyB
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Durant is like our area, target destination for retirees to get out of DFW and stay close enough to kids, grandkids, and medical. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/lumber-futures-hit-record-high-1000-gold-slumps-7-month-lowsTheyre saying up 30%............. I say its more, and that's if you can get it. A couple of hurricanes or west coast fires and a earthquake...............oh my. Even a stupid little quarter acre lot here in Durant is 20-35k. The price of a house or remodel is going to get stupider. There is no house inventory for sale. Rockwall only has about 40 or 50 used houses for sale total. Nobody is selling because they cant find another house to buy or another house they can afford.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: Big_Country01]
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02/19/21 05:16 AM
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kmon11
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It's all a bunch of BS. Standing timber prices are dirt cheap. Yup, and try to get someone to thin timber that needs it. They want to clear cut or cut nothing.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: Mike Honcho]
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02/19/21 05:21 AM
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Bee'z
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Spoke to contractor today when he came by to assess damage and he’s talking for remodeling work apart from claim he’s thinking it’ll cost $20k for what we want. I was shocked it isn’t wasn’t a crazy makeover. Just a spruce up more than anything. They probably saw your pay stubs you posted.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: Bee'z]
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02/19/21 05:42 AM
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Mike Honcho
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Spoke to contractor today when he came by to assess damage and he’s talking for remodeling work apart from claim he’s thinking it’ll cost $20k for what we want. I was shocked it isn’t wasn’t a crazy makeover. Just a spruce up more than anything. They probably saw your pay stubs you posted. yeah I regrettably lost my cool on that one, and I’m a lil embarrassed to be honest. Hadn’t gotten that pissed in a loooonnnngggg time.
“Two things that define an individual what you do when you have everything, and what you do when you have nothing."
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: Mike Honcho]
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02/19/21 07:06 AM
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Bullfrog
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Spoke to contractor today when he came by to assess damage and he’s talking for remodeling work apart from claim he’s thinking it’ll cost $20k for what we want. I was shocked it isn’t wasn’t a crazy makeover. Just a spruce up more than anything. They probably saw your pay stubs you posted. yeah I regrettably lost my cool on that one, and I’m a lil embarrassed to be honest. Hadn’t gotten that pissed in a loooonnnngggg time. Lmao. He’s good at that, ain’t he? Let it go and learn from it. The dude is level headed as they come. Ask me how I know.
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 07:10 AM
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Bullfrog
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Was at Lowe’s a number of times the last few days. It blew me away the number of people with 2X4’s, cut to 18-24” lengths. They had basket fulls! I was kinda floored but thought, “well there’s one way to do it”
All I know is thank God for good friends.
Man if I knew what Oxner knows I could throw away what I know
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 08:46 AM
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fishdfly
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Chimney fires are coming.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 08:46 AM
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fishdfly
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Chimney fires are coming.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: Bullfrog]
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02/19/21 12:31 PM
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ducknbass
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Was at Lowe’s a number of times the last few days. It blew me away the number of people with 2X4’s, cut to 18-24” lengths. They had basket fulls! I was kinda floored but thought, “well there’s one way to do it”
All I know is thank God for good friends. Just wow
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: erathar]
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02/19/21 12:34 PM
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bill oxner
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This may time perfect. May end up selling for 100k more than we paid 3 years ago and moving into inlaws guest house until things calm down. Good luck. Are you locked in on the price for your new house?
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fishdfly]
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02/19/21 01:22 PM
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bill oxner
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Chimney fires are coming. You are double posting and you accuse me?
Quail hunting is like walking into, and out of a beautiful painting all day long. Gene Hill
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 02:28 PM
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TexFlip
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I'm about to pull the plug on my house being built. Wife ain't happy but the increase in framing will cost her the pool. She understands that math better than "100% increase in framing package".
We held off when futures but $700 but when they dropped back to the $400s we picked back up. $1,000 futures are a deal breaker for me.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
#8176220
02/19/21 02:38 PM
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pine knott
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Mills won't be running for a few days and we won't be logging for longer than that. Mill inventories are high based on the fact we were on quota last few weeks.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 02:40 PM
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jetdad
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I wonder if builders and some some homeowners will start hedging when they commit to building a new home?
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: jetdad]
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02/19/21 05:28 PM
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Mike Honcho
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I wonder if builders and some some homeowners will start hedging when they commit to building a new home? We were already in the works. Bought the lot and planned on construction to start in month. that’s why we were doing a superficial remodel. At this point I don’t think we are going to proceed. At least the wife will be happier with her kitchen facelift and pantry update. Looked at other homes in the area and we would love to sell, but moving into the sqft that we want puts us into a price point I won’t bite off.
“Two things that define an individual what you do when you have everything, and what you do when you have nothing."
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 05:32 PM
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txtrophy85
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Is this a reliable news source?
I question that when the author is a pseudonym of a character from a 20 year old movie
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 05:48 PM
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jetdad
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The futures contract for March random length lumber closed yesterday at $1,004. Yes, prices are out of sight.
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Re: Lumber futures hit all time high
[Re: fadetoblack64]
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02/19/21 05:50 PM
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DannyB
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Commodities chart---click on Lumber---click on the time frames---pick 5 years for a good picture https://www.investing.com/commodities/real-time-futuresI'm a Realtor, but built for many years. My last project was signed off on Jan 2020. I'm most likely done. Real estate is more fun for me. I wouldn't start a new home for Hell or high water right now. It became too hard to get some of the sub-contractors. I had great ones from the slab through framing, plumbing, and electrical. After that it was a nightmare getting anyone to show up. As far as the present time, I imagine plumbers, drywall contractors, and painters are going to be busy for quite a while. I see no reason for any materials to come down in the near term. Speaking of paint, I've heard that painter's bids are sky high now. I can't verify that, just hearsay.
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