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 CZ bought Colt?
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02/12/21 03:59 PM
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did i see this correctly? or is it old news?
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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I don't even know what Colt makes anymore. Overpriced ARs, three different models of revolvers, 1911s, and the old Colt 1903 pocket pistol. I can't really think of anything else. I think Colt found out the hard way that government contracts are not where you make your money, the US civilian Market is where your cash comes in and Colt pulled an HK and began acting like elitist. That pretty much cut their throats for profits.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/12/21 05:05 PM
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I know nothing of the gun trade, but figured govt. contracts would be cash cows. I know in my field we make significantly more off govt. clients than we do civilians.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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Yep they have finalized the purchase.
How ironic an old eastern bloc country now owns the company that made or invented a major portion of the guns they fought against.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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Samuel Colts spinning in his grave.
its sad USA Cant make quality guns anymore. so many corners cut to make money
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/12/21 07:04 PM
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Colt-Dan Wesson. I’ll take it.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/14/21 03:59 AM
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I think it will help Colts overall quality level.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/14/21 03:39 PM
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Samuel Colts spinning in his grave.
its sad USA Cant make quality guns anymore. so many corners cut to make money Silly statement. There's plenty of U.S. gun makers doing a fine job, and always have. Ruger is a great example.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/14/21 03:58 PM
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I don't even know what Colt makes anymore. Overpriced ARs, three different models of revolvers, 1911s, and the old Colt 1903 pocket pistol. I can't really think of anything else. I think Colt found out the hard way that government contracts are not where you make your money, the US civilian Market is where your cash comes in and Colt pulled an HK and began acting like elitist. That pretty much cut their throats for profits. Colt has been struggling for many years, they just never seemed to be able to get out of the cage they built for themselves. They could have dominated the single action pistol market but but Ruger yanked that right out from under them, same goes for the double action revolver market, Smith and Wesson left them in the dust. They never really competed in the rifle or shotgun market and their semi auto pistols just wasn't as good and reliable as others on the market. You can only live off a name for so long, kind of like drilling one oil well and thinking your in the oil business forever. You have to keep producing!
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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Samuel Colts spinning in his grave.
its sad USA Cant make quality guns anymore. so many corners cut to make money Silly statement. There's plenty of U.S. gun makers doing a fine job, and always have. Ruger is a great example. thats one 
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/14/21 06:50 PM
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Jobs and production have been going oversee where it’s easier to be profitable/competitive. Now that it’s a gun company you notice? Changes can start at the penis breathe politician’s that continually screw us.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/14/21 09:02 PM
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Best thing that could happen to Colt.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/14/21 11:32 PM
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[quote=redchevy]I know nothing of the gun trade, but figured govt. contracts would be cash cows. I know in my field we make significantly more off govt. clients than we do civilians.[/quote
example toilet seats $300. , hammer handles $150.
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/15/21 12:09 AM
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Not a bad thing. CZ 1911’s are far better than anything colt put out after series 70.
CZ makes incredible rifles. CZ is a good quality producing company.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/15/21 12:12 AM
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Samuel Colts spinning in his grave.
its sad USA Cant make quality guns anymore. so many corners cut to make money Silly statement. There's plenty of U.S. gun makers doing a fine job, and always have. Ruger is a great example. thats one Here’s some: GA Precision Seekins Proof Christensen (I know this can be argued) Weatherby Savage Copper Montana Rifles ARC Triarc And a ton of custom rifle builders like Terry Cross
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/15/21 12:31 PM
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I'll disagree a bit here. I've owned a few CZ rimfires and never had one that shot worth a darn. My 10/22 with GM barrel would outshoot all the CZ bolt guns I've had, easily. CZ does make a decent pistol, but so does Colt. I have a recent 2012 or 2013 I think build Series 80 1911 that's absolutely fantastic. Doesn't jam, great trigger, very accurate, price was reasonable...what more could you want?
Colt's 6920 is one of the cornerstones of the AR-15 market. I'm not sure why they can't make money, but criticizing the quality of their firearms, IMHO, is misguided. Especially compared to CZ
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/15/21 01:03 PM
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Patriot I was thinking about the fact that Dan Wesson is CZ-USA. The entry level Dan Wessons are at least as good as the mid level Colts. Of course they don’t have facilities to produce on the scale Colt does but if they will just carry their quality standards over to the Colt facility I call it a win. Rock Island shames entry level colts these days. I prefer my Ruger over the mid level colts. I’ll likely never own any of the expensive ones made by anyone so I have no idea of the top level Colt 1911s.
Getting off topic here but Ruger hit a home run with the titanium firing pin and heavier spring giving you a drop proof series 70. I’ve yet to canniblize one of my series 80s but it’s going to happen. Way too many moving parts to pull the trigger and it be decent.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/15/21 01:12 PM
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Samuel Colts spinning in his grave.
its sad USA Cant make quality guns anymore. so many corners cut to make money Silly statement. There's plenty of U.S. gun makers doing a fine job, and always have. Ruger is a great example. thats one Here’s some: GA Precision Seekins Proof Christensen (I know this can be argued) Weatherby Savage Copper Montana Rifles ARC Triarc And a ton of custom rifle builders like Terry Cross You forgot Henry.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/15/21 10:02 PM
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Kimber makes good firearms as does Springfield Armory.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/15/21 10:46 PM
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Kimber makes good firearms as does Springfield Armory.
But "SpRiNgFiElD sUpPorTs gUn cOnTrOl"
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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02/15/21 11:10 PM
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[quote=redchevy]I know nothing of the gun trade, but figured govt. contracts would be cash cows. I know in my field we make significantly more off govt. clients than we do civilians.[/quote
example toilet seats $300. , hammer handles $150.
There are lots of black-world projects which every freshman congressman (think The Squad) doesn't need to know about, and they are often funded by those over-priced toilet seats and hammer handles. In the USAF, I once worked on a project which got it's funding from over-priced widgets in an Army project.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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Colt offered low quality for high prices, market responded again. It can only get better for Colt.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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Patriot I was thinking about the fact that Dan Wesson is CZ-USA. The entry level Dan Wessons are at least as good as the mid level Colts. Of course they don’t have facilities to produce on the scale Colt does but if they will just carry their quality standards over to the Colt facility I call it a win. Rock Island shames entry level colts these days. I prefer my Ruger over the mid level colts. I’ll likely never own any of the expensive ones made by anyone so I have no idea of the top level Colt 1911s.
Getting off topic here but Ruger hit a home run with the titanium firing pin and heavier spring giving you a drop proof series 70. I’ve yet to canniblize one of my series 80s but it’s going to happen. Way too many moving parts to pull the trigger and it be decent. Did not know that - if DW can take the Colt name and offer DW performance at reasonable prices, it'll be gangbusters.
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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We may see more of this in the future the way our country is heading
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Re: CZ bought Colt?
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Patriot I was thinking about the fact that Dan Wesson is CZ-USA. The entry level Dan Wessons are at least as good as the mid level Colts. Of course they don’t have facilities to produce on the scale Colt does but if they will just carry their quality standards over to the Colt facility I call it a win. Rock Island shames entry level colts these days. I prefer my Ruger over the mid level colts. I’ll likely never own any of the expensive ones made by anyone so I have no idea of the top level Colt 1911s.
Getting off topic here but Ruger hit a home run with the titanium firing pin and heavier spring giving you a drop proof series 70. I’ve yet to canniblize one of my series 80s but it’s going to happen. Way too many moving parts to pull the trigger and it be decent. I traded the a series 80 gold cup for a sig 1911. It was better in every aspect. RIA makes a hell of a gun for the money. I’ll take CZ over colt 6 days a week and twice on Sunday. They are iconic and American. I do have a special place for a 6920, but colt has been surpassed by many.
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