Sectional density is pretty meaningless unless you are using non expanding bullets.

That's smokin! I thought I was doing good to get 2950 from a 180 ELDM.

And just to get one more real world example out there - 260 Rem with a 26 inch barrel and I'm getting 2925 with the 143 ELDX.

I was thinking about buying a .270 wby mag. Thats better than both the 6.5 CM and the PRC

Someone here will come up with a mathematical equation that proves the 6.5 CM is actually more powerful that the 270 wby.

This discussion borders on ridiculousness. You guys are way over thinking this. I do not bore easily and ain't afraid of not being cool. I'll utilize my army surplus stuff and keep bringing home deer meat.

Now that has to win the internet today.

I hate to quote Hud back to back but I just hope the "army surplus stuff" slips by Bobo....

Lol, that’s funny. If you wet out a d freeze to death in texas better be in middle of a lake.

You can't see deer once you've drifted off into tall weeds.

I can’t wait until Benelli or Beretta comes out with a nice semi-auto chambered in 20 gauge creedmoor

Got that right (for once).

The neighbor that had thought, for whatever reason, the 6.5 CM kicked more than his 270 came back over this morning to adjust his scope. He cranked off about 8 rounds with the 270 and declared that “ya know, you are right about the 270 kicking harder”.so the plan is that when his wife feels like she can shoot, I’ll put her on the AR first. If that’s workable, we’ll use the bolt 223. Next would be some light loads in the 6.5 behind 100 gr Nosler BTs. I’ve got the dies already from working up loads in the brother’s gun.

What I don’t have is CM brass, but the guy’s wife just had the rotator cuff surgery, so it’ll be a while before she needs to shoot anything.

Easy Beretta owns Benelli.... And benelli owns franchi and franchiI released a....

603,

the 100 TTSX over a case full of Varget is worth consideration. I worked them up for a .260 for my nephews and it turned into my second favorite deer and pig round behind my .308 with the 130 TTSX. They are equally effective, the .260 rifle is just a bit smaller, so grab the .308 more often.

The penetrate more reliably than the 120 BT’s which I tried, especially on pigs. 100% of the TTSX’s have exited, the 120 BT’s mostly did not exit on pigs.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010414157?pid=712331

If you get to that point and need it, I’ll send you some brass. Just holler.

Thanks much, Quitshootin! And jeffbird, as much as I like the 100 gr Nosler BT for deer, you are right that they rarely exit a pig. Still, the shot pigs don’t go far, so an exit isn’t too necessary. As for powder, I was going to use IMR 4064, the burn rate being similar to Varget. And, I have a supply of the 100 gr Noslers already.

4064 should work.

Hodgdon data says 36 - 40 grains.

https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle

All I know is I bought an AR10 in 6.5 for Hogs because I wanted semi auto. I've shot 308 for a long time and have brass laying around everywhere and a at least 1000 rounds of factory.

The Ar10 is a heavy pig and 6.5 in hard to find now and I'm down to 30 rounds. Buyer's remorse. Not usually a cool aid drinker.

I want a lightweight 308 semi auto hog killer to mount a thermal on. Can't decide what I should have gotten instead of the AR10 6.5

trades welcome

Man don’t you know! The 300 Ham’r. In all seriousness if I was to be looking for an AR-15 that’s what it would be.

I don’t own one, but it does make sense to use that 300 Hmr if you want something lighter than an AR10. If the ballistics are indeed right there with a 300 Savage, that’s about as close as you are going to get to 308 performance in an AR15. I was actually going to get a 300 Hmr instead of a 223 in an AR, but decided to start with the 223 and maybe transition later.

And it would seem that a 6.5 Hmr would be the next step, and that step has probably happened, though I haven’t heard about it. Would it be a man bun cartridge?

I want to order a 300 Ham'r 18" barrel from WC to put on one of my AR15s. they are out of stock and also a 500 round minimum order of 130 grain ammo.