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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/09/20 09:35 PM
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This is a good thread! “Clip” does not bother me. My wife’s dad was a US Marine in the Korean conflict. He asked me to replace the hinged floor plate on his 700 BDL 30-06 so he could carry an “extra clip” in his pocket. My response, “I’ll be glad to”. “Slow is smooth and smooth is fast”. My dad was an army ranger in Vietnam. When he taught me to use firearms that is what he taught me. He told me it’s what the military taught him. In his prime I would wager that he could hold his own with anyone on this forum at quickly putting rounds on target with no wasted motion. He is dead now and I miss him. Smooth is fast.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/09/20 11:27 PM
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I agree it's an accepted jargon thing for the most part, and if you ask for 9mm, 40, or 45 ammo you'll likely get the right thing. However, if the customer doesn't check to make sure he got the right thing he's a fool. The guy at the counter is also a fool if someone asks for 7mm ammo and he doesn't confirm what the customer actually wants. It could be 7mm-08, 7mm Rem. Mag., 7mm WSM, etc.
Lots of examples across many markets where terminology that isn't technically correct is common in everyday use. "Modem" is a good example in the IT world. The term is still quite common even though devices that modulate signals over analog waveforms are few and far between. They have long since been replaced with devices that only use digital signals.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/10/20 02:09 AM
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Modems won’t kill you due to your ignorance.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/10/20 02:54 AM
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Modems won’t kill you due to your ignorance. Like a mag will kill me when I call it a clip? Or how a bison will kill you when you call it a buffalo?
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/10/20 12:17 PM
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Depends on how the Bison identifies.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/10/20 01:06 PM
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Depends on how the Bison identifies. I'm offended you would say that. You need some sensitivity training.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/10/20 01:30 PM
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Perhaps I can throw out something different that people often say that's technically incorrect when speaking of firearms. It's common for someone to say they cleaned the barrel, when in fact, what they really cleaned was the bore. But again, no harm done.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/10/20 11:07 PM
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Disagree, the bore is part of the barrel. Also, I don’t know anyone who cleans the bore without also giving the outside of the barrel a wipe down
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/11/20 01:47 PM
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Disagree, the bore is part of the barrel. Also, I don’t know anyone who cleans the bore without also giving the outside of the barrel a wipe down You're right, it's the outside of the barrel that usually only needs a wipe down with oil to prevent rust. It's the bore that usually needs cleaning.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/12/20 03:09 AM
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The ATF in the NFA also identifies it as “caliber or gauge” in 7.4.2 which clearly supports your statement and not mine. That’s right, I am also saying the ATF is wrong. I’ll just start stamping .284 on all my barrels no matter what. I’ll let you guess what to feed it. ‘zackly!
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/12/20 03:11 AM
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Just because millions of people are doing something wrong, does not make it right.
Democrat voters are a great example of this.
Calibers: .17 .204 .224 .243 (6mm) .257 .264 (6.5mm) .277 .284 (7mm) .308
Of course there are more. But hundreds of cartridges fit on that list of calibers. Sho’ got that right.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/14/20 04:03 PM
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Someone else may have covered this one: "high capacity magazine" to refer to anything over 10 rounds.
Back when "wonder nines" were brand new, and it was amazing to have a Glock that held 17 rounds, or a Beretta or Sig that held 15, a "standard capacity" for a typical handgun was six shots for a revolver, or 7-8 shots for a semi auto. So sure, back in the late 70's and into the 80's, anything over 10 rounds was "high capacity".
But the standard capacity magazine for an AR or AK type firearm has been 30 rounds for at least 40 years now, and they're in such common usage that it's unusual to see someone using a lower capacity one (I get odd looks when I break out one of my old 20 rounders for my AR at the range). Likewise, handguns have been sold with factory magazines ranging from 13 to 19 rounds for so many years that they too are considered standard capacity for the average gun owner, unless you live in a state which limits magazines to only 10 rounds.
Certainly, a rifle magazine holding 50-100 rounds is still "high capacity", as is a pistol magazine that holds 50+. But magazines of 15-30 rounds are sold as standard factory parts with new guns, and have been in such common, widespread use for so many years, that there is no way that they can truthfully be called "high capacity" any longer.
My 14 round pistol mags and my 30 round AR mags are all "standard capacity".
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/15/20 12:24 AM
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I’m surprised no one has said anything about what they hear coming from behind the counter at Academy or elsewhere.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/15/20 01:19 AM
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I’m surprised no one has said anything about what they hear coming from behind the counter at Academy or elsewhere. That would definitely add a few pages.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/15/20 05:29 AM
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Remmy, Mossy, Winny, Rob, Roy, Leupy, Bushy, Vortex warranty, pill, truck gun. You can thank me later, Creedmore.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/15/20 04:27 PM
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Remmy, Mossy, Winny, Rob, Roy, Leupy, Bushy, Vortex warranty, pill, truck gun. You can thank me later, Creedmore. I have no problem with "truck gun." Its seems very discriptive in just a couple words. What else would you call it without using a whole sentence to describe?
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/15/20 06:44 PM
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Uhh ... I'm not a fan of "grainage."
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/16/20 08:40 PM
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I’m surprised no one has said anything about what they hear coming from behind the counter at Academy or elsewhere. Well, this was from the customer side of the counter. The poor salesman was trying to help a lady who kept calling every handgun a "Glock". I tried - I really tried - to explain that "Glock" is a brand of gun the way that "Ford" is a brand of truck. She thought I was nuts.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/18/20 03:14 PM
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Well regardless of what you over educated keyboard commandos think, my Remington 788's all have clips. It told me so in the little green book Remington put in the boxes when I bought them new.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/18/20 11:22 PM
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Well regardless of what you over educated keyboard commandos think, my Remington 788's all have clips. It told me so in the little green book Remington put in the boxes when I bought them new. I’d like to see that.....take a pic for us!
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/19/20 12:31 AM
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Well regardless of what you over educated keyboard commandos think, my Remington 788's all have clips. It told me so in the little green book Remington put in the boxes when I bought them new. Remington went bankrupt, also. It sold for only $12 million. So there's that...
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/19/20 12:38 AM
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/19/20 12:57 AM
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I see "Magazine" five times. I see "click" one time. I see "clip" zero times.
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/19/20 01:05 AM
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Dang, JG, you might want to count again.....I’m getting 15!
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Re: Which shooting/gun "term" makes you shake your head "no"?
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11/19/20 01:09 AM
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Yep, I didn't see clip anywhere.
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