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Re: Breonna Taylor [Re: B-radder] #7986173 09/24/20 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Bobo thats neat, I bet if you do no wrong you won't have a warrant , so lets back up a little


That’s his point.


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Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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Bobo thats neat, I bet if you do no wrong you won't have a warrant , so lets back up a little


That’s his point.


We need to meet for tacos.


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Bullfrog , what the hell are you saying? They had a warrant for her. Because she was conducting illegal activity.


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Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Bullfrog , what the hell are you saying? They had a warrant for her. Because she was conducting illegal activity.


Bobo’s livin’ right so he isn’t getting his door kicked in by the police. Someone kicks in his door, I bet it’s not the police and they’re going to get shot at.


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'Tried watching some news, but it's just live feed of the police line in Louisville. I was a kid in the '60's. I guess I understand "protests" and "marches". But those people had a purpose and a direction (both physically and philosophically). Outside of the usual attention prostitutes that are at anything these days, who decides to go stand there and just stare at the police? It looks like every walk of life, standing there like they're sedated, staring, seemingly lost. Some take pics and videos of the police standing there. What kind of life do they have that that seems like a good idea to go do? Proof we haven't "evolved", in fact, I think we're regressing.

your still living the lie. The 60s riots were orchestrated as they are today.


You don't convince anyone by constantly trying to come off as the smartest guy in the room, with an insult thrown in for good measure. 'Never said things were pure innocence back then. Don't look now, but your high horse is nibbling on some loco weed.


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Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Bobo thats neat, I bet if you do no wrong you won't have a warrant , so lets back up a little

There have be several no knock warrants on wrong houses where the home owner shot back or has been killed by police because they shot because someone was kicking in their door. Complete misunderstanding.


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Originally Posted by Bullfrog
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Bullfrog , what the hell are you saying? They had a warrant for her. Because she was conducting illegal activity.


Bobo’s livin’ right so he isn’t getting his door kicked in by the police. Someone kicks in his door, I bet it’s not the police and they’re going to get shot at.


I have no dog in this fight. I do have a theoretical though if anyone wants to appease...

Are we saying that if a burglar kicks in your door and yells police that you'll just turn away from the flashlight and put your hands on the wall?

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Originally Posted by Bullfrog
Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Bullfrog , what the hell are you saying? They had a warrant for her. Because she was conducting illegal activity.


Bobo’s livin’ right so he isn’t getting his door kicked in by the police. Someone kicks in his door, I bet it’s not the police and they’re going to get shot at.

well that's off my saturday night fun list... bang

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Re: Breonna Taylor [Re: B-radder] #7986240 09/24/20 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Bobo thats neat, I bet if you do no wrong you won't have a warrant , so lets back up a little


Do what? Back up?

Since you can't comprehend I’ll help you back up a little.....That's my entire point I was making. My Comment to Raybob was to show the good and bad of noknock raids. If I get an actual no knock raid the LEO’s intel is completely and majorly screwed. Chances by a large majority are it's a home invasion. With that said the exact mistake has happened before, and home owner thought it was a home invasion also.

In the part of a no knock raid their is zero tolerance for Intel mistakes, none, someone is getting killed by a high probability when it's the wrong house. As would be the case in my home, the innocent dead would be me defending my family and probably an officer that thought he was defending himself. Bad intel killed both of us.

In this current case I said let the facts surface before making a conclusion.










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Some pretty interesting reading for those who want more information ....you don't have to read all 41 pages to get a pretty good idea of what was taking place.....
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1

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Originally Posted by TexasPI
Some pretty interesting reading for those who want more information ....you don't have to read all 41 pages to get a pretty good idea of what was taking place.....
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1


Wow


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Certainly paints a picture doesn't it?

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Even went in to about page 7 just to see. Yep. What I thought


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Originally Posted by TCM3
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Bullfrog , what the hell are you saying? They had a warrant for her. Because she was conducting illegal activity.


Bobo’s livin’ right so he isn’t getting his door kicked in by the police. Someone kicks in his door, I bet it’s not the police and they’re going to get shot at.

well that's off my saturday night fun list... bang


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Bobo thats neat, I bet if you do no wrong you won't have a warrant , so lets back up a little


Do what? Back up?

Since you can't comprehend I’ll help you back up a little.....That's my entire point I was making. My Comment to Raybob was to show the good and bad of noknock raids. If I get an actual no knock raid the LEO’s intel is completely and majorly screwed. Chances by a large majority are it's a home invasion. With that said the exact mistake has happened before, and home owner thought it was a home invasion also.

In the part of a no knock raid their is zero tolerance for Intel mistakes, none, someone is getting killed by a high probability when it's the wrong house. As would be the case in my home, the innocent dead would be me defending my family and probably an officer that thought he was defending himself. Bad intel killed both of us.

In this current case I said let the facts surface before making a conclusion.



This should not be a controversial statement. Well said, Bobo.


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Originally Posted by TexasPI
Some pretty interesting reading for those who want more information ....you don't have to read all 41 pages to get a pretty good idea of what was taking place.....
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1


So pretty much she was moving money for them is what I gather from that. Well aware (and somewhat indirectly involved) on what was going on. Too bad the MSM has to lie - good to know the two cops shot in Louisville tonight will be alright. MSM has blood on their hands once again.

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Some pretty interesting reading for those who want more information ....you don't have to read all 41 pages to get a pretty good idea of what was taking place.....
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1


So pretty much she was moving money for them is what I gather from that. Well aware (and somewhat indirectly involved) on what was going on. Too bad the MSM has to lie - good to know the two cops shot in Louisville tonight will be alright. MSM has blood on their hands once again.

They’ve had blood on their hands for a while now. Hopefully they’ll get theirs in the end.


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Bobo thats neat, I bet if you do no wrong you won't have a warrant , so lets back up a little


Do what? Back up?

Since you can't comprehend I’ll help you back up a little.....That's my entire point I was making. My Comment to Raybob was to show the good and bad of noknock raids. If I get an actual no knock raid the LEO’s intel is completely and majorly screwed. Chances by a large majority are it's a home invasion. With that said the exact mistake has happened before, and home owner thought it was a home invasion also.

In the part of a no knock raid their is zero tolerance for Intel mistakes, none, someone is getting killed by a high probability when it's the wrong house. As would be the case in my home, the innocent dead would be me defending my family and probably an officer that thought he was defending himself. Bad intel killed both of us.

In this current case I said let the facts surface before making a conclusion.



Spot on. Personally, I think no-knock raids are a bad idea for the simple fact that innocent people have died because of them. It's better to let a guilty man go free than one innocent person be punished for the mistakes of others. We can't act like no-knock raids have the correct house all the time and innocent people don't die because of them, because neither of those is true.

I'm all for law enforcement doing their job, but it's scary to think it only takes one mistake to cost one of us, or a loved one, our lives. Also, it's dangerous for the LEO's as well....

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Originally Posted by DocHorton
Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Bobo thats neat, I bet if you do no wrong you won't have a warrant , so lets back up a little


Do what? Back up?

Since you can't comprehend I’ll help you back up a little.....That's my entire point I was making. My Comment to Raybob was to show the good and bad of noknock raids. If I get an actual no knock raid the LEO’s intel is completely and majorly screwed. Chances by a large majority are it's a home invasion. With that said the exact mistake has happened before, and home owner thought it was a home invasion also.

In the part of a no knock raid their is zero tolerance for Intel mistakes, none, someone is getting killed by a high probability when it's the wrong house. As would be the case in my home, the innocent dead would be me defending my family and probably an officer that thought he was defending himself. Bad intel killed both of us.

In this current case I said let the facts surface before making a conclusion.



Spot on. Personally, I think no-knock raids are a bad idea for the simple fact that innocent people have died because of them. It's better to let a guilty man go free than one innocent person be punished for the mistakes of others. We can't act like no-knock raids have the correct house all the time and innocent people don't die because of them, because neither of those is true.

I'm all for law enforcement doing their job, but it's scary to think it only takes one mistake to cost one of us, or a loved one, our lives. Also, it's dangerous for the LEO's as well....


How many people have died from DWI? How many people have died from driving too fast? How many people have died from smoking cigarettes? Probably 100x as many that are killed from police during a no-knock warrant of the wing house. Yet, you don’t hear people crying about DWI being a minor infraction. The way people think and justify things just baffles me


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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Bobo thats neat, I bet if you do no wrong you won't have a warrant , so lets back up a little


Do what? Back up?

Since you can't comprehend I’ll help you back up a little.....That's my entire point I was making. My Comment to Raybob was to show the good and bad of noknock raids. If I get an actual no knock raid the LEO’s intel is completely and majorly screwed. Chances by a large majority are it's a home invasion. With that said the exact mistake has happened before, and home owner thought it was a home invasion also.

In the part of a no knock raid their is zero tolerance for Intel mistakes, none, someone is getting killed by a high probability when it's the wrong house. As would be the case in my home, the innocent dead would be me defending my family and probably an officer that thought he was defending himself. Bad intel killed both of us.

In this current case I said let the facts surface before making a conclusion.










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What BOBO posted.


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Originally Posted by DocHorton
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Originally Posted by Brad Hardt
Bobo thats neat, I bet if you do no wrong you won't have a warrant , so lets back up a little


Do what? Back up?

Since you can't comprehend I’ll help you back up a little.....That's my entire point I was making. My Comment to Raybob was to show the good and bad of noknock raids. If I get an actual no knock raid the LEO’s intel is completely and majorly screwed. Chances by a large majority are it's a home invasion. With that said the exact mistake has happened before, and home owner thought it was a home invasion also.

In the part of a no knock raid their is zero tolerance for Intel mistakes, none, someone is getting killed by a high probability when it's the wrong house. As would be the case in my home, the innocent dead would be me defending my family and probably an officer that thought he was defending himself. Bad intel killed both of us.

In this current case I said let the facts surface before making a conclusion.



Spot on. Personally, I think no-knock raids are a bad idea for the simple fact that innocent people have died because of them. It's better to let a guilty man go free than one innocent person be punished for the mistakes of others. We can't act like no-knock raids have the correct house all the time and innocent people don't die because of them, because neither of those is true.

I'm all for law enforcement doing their job, but it's scary to think it only takes one mistake to cost one of us, or a loved one, our lives. Also, it's dangerous for the LEO's as well....


It's really a no win situation, worst part is there is an absolute need for no knocks. It's the safest way to apprehend “some” of these bad guy, it’s the safest way for general public and officers to get “some” of the criminals off streets.








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Originally Posted by DocHorton
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Bobo thats neat, I bet if you do no wrong you won't have a warrant , so lets back up a little


Do what? Back up?

Since you can't comprehend I’ll help you back up a little.....That's my entire point I was making. My Comment to Raybob was to show the good and bad of noknock raids. If I get an actual no knock raid the LEO’s intel is completely and majorly screwed. Chances by a large majority are it's a home invasion. With that said the exact mistake has happened before, and home owner thought it was a home invasion also.

In the part of a no knock raid their is zero tolerance for Intel mistakes, none, someone is getting killed by a high probability when it's the wrong house. As would be the case in my home, the innocent dead would be me defending my family and probably an officer that thought he was defending himself. Bad intel killed both of us.

In this current case I said let the facts surface before making a conclusion.



Spot on. Personally, I think no-knock raids are a bad idea for the simple fact that innocent people have died because of them. It's better to let a guilty man go free than one innocent person be punished for the mistakes of others. We can't act like no-knock raids have the correct house all the time and innocent people don't die because of them, because neither of those is true.

I'm all for law enforcement doing their job, but it's scary to think it only takes one mistake to cost one of us, or a loved one, our lives. Also, it's dangerous for the LEO's as well....


Pretty sure you medical people have killed a few as well. In real life bad things happen.

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Just saw a speech some dude gave on her. His words, “her life was pregnant with possibility”

They’re trying everything they can. Makes me picture a bullet spinning SO fast, it disintegrates.


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