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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Texas Dan]
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09/11/20 11:07 PM
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With a good "lease boss" and it would not have happened. Agreed. A good lease boss ensures everyone enjoys equal access. No deer is reserved for anyone, and everyone shares in the success of any legal deer taken. Dan I have been on countless leases both as a lease member and as a guest. Not one single place I have stepped foot on reserved a deer for any certain person. Most of the places do try to put the young deer off limits but even then there is usually one knuckle head that will "make a mistake". But never has a deer been reserved for anyone on the places I have been. Sure it happens but its the exception and not the rule I assure you of that.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Adchunts]
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09/11/20 11:18 PM
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As lease boss I like to reserve the deer I’m going to kill when they are just coming out of velvet. This saves any confusion about which deer is mine. As a lease rule all camera cards are to be turned in to me before lease holders can view. If my deer is showing up at another hunters stand more frequently then I have the option of hunting their stand and they can pick from my stands as an alternative. If another deer better than the one I chose in velvet appears on camera then I have the right to chose another buck. This keeps everyone honest. I also feel I should be compensated for dealing with the land owner and my lease fees are split up between my leaseholders. Deer hunting has always been very important to me and I like to keep things fair and upfront. There are plenty of decent bucks to go around.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Texas Dan]
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09/11/20 11:26 PM
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Anyone willing to take a stab at for whom the deer in the cartoon might be reserved? \ No Dan - pray tell?? Who are you speaking of?
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: tlk]
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09/11/20 11:34 PM
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Goshers, somes here really have me rethinking my methods. What am I doing? awesome bucks!! Man those are some thick boys! Good luck Hud and reserve one for me!
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Adchunts]
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09/12/20 10:44 AM
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headed to Geronimo for some dove hunting this morning. Don't know how many others are going, but I am sure to see pumps and over & unders. I will utilize my trusty side by side this day. Still think of great granddaddy every time I pull it out. Darn sure ain't going to be disparaging the oher hunters for their choices. In fact, I will celebrate their good shots and, of course, my lucky ones.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Hudbone]
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09/12/20 11:30 AM
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headed to Geronimo for some dove hunting this morning. Don't know how many others are going, but I am sure to see pumps and over & unders. I will utilize my trusty side by side this day. Still think of great granddaddy every time I pull it out. Darn sure ain't going to be disparaging the oher hunters for their choices. In fact, I will celebrate their good shots and, of course, my lucky ones.
Have fun and shoot straight! 'Reminds me, I need to get Dad's rattling Model 12 in 16 ga. down and try to knock some doves down with it. His hands wore a lot of the bluing off the stainless barrel.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
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09/12/20 01:09 PM
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As lease boss I like to reserve the deer I’m going to kill when they are just coming out of velvet. This saves any confusion about which deer is mine. As a lease rule all camera cards are to be turned in to me before lease holders can view . If my deer is showing up at another hunters stand more frequently then I have the option of hunting their stand and they can pick from my stands as an alternative. If another deer better than the one I chose in velvet appears on camera then I have the right to chose another buck. This keeps everyone honest. I also feel I should be compensated for dealing with the land owner and my lease fees are split up between my leaseholders. Deer hunting has always been very important to me and I like to keep things fair and upfront. There are plenty of decent bucks to go around. Geezus are you serious
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Adchunts]
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09/12/20 01:20 PM
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...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Hudbone]
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09/12/20 02:16 PM
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headed to Geronimo for some dove hunting this morning. Don't know how many others are going, but I am sure to see pumps and over & unders. I will utilize my trusty side by side this day. Still think of great granddaddy every time I pull it out. Darn sure ain't going to be disparaging the oher hunters for their choices. In fact, I will celebrate their good shots and, of course, my lucky ones.
I am jealous - have a blast (literally)
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Hudbone]
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09/12/20 04:11 PM
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headed to Geronimo for some dove hunting this morning. Don't know how many others are going, but I am sure to see pumps and over & unders. I will utilize my trusty side by side this day. Still think of great granddaddy every time I pull it out. Darn sure ain't going to be disparaging the oher hunters for their choices. In fact, I will celebrate their good shots and, of course, my lucky ones.
There is a fine gentleman that I’ve had the pleasure of hunting with a few times on this forum that hunts with a very well traveled 20ga sxs also, he is a hand with it. His dogs are pretty impressive also.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Stub]
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09/12/20 04:13 PM
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As lease boss I like to reserve the deer I’m going to kill when they are just coming out of velvet. This saves any confusion about which deer is mine. As a lease rule all camera cards are to be turned in to me before lease holders can view . If my deer is showing up at another hunters stand more frequently then I have the option of hunting their stand and they can pick from my stands as an alternative. If another deer better than the one I chose in velvet appears on camera then I have the right to chose another buck. This keeps everyone honest. I also feel I should be compensated for dealing with the land owner and my lease fees are split up between my leaseholders. Deer hunting has always been very important to me and I like to keep things fair and upfront. There are plenty of decent bucks to go around. Geezus are you serious No, I’m guessing he hardly would want to get out of the truck probably for a deer, now a covey of quail he probably walk across two states
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Stub]
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09/12/20 05:20 PM
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As lease boss I like to reserve the deer I’m going to kill when they are just coming out of velvet. This saves any confusion about which deer is mine. As a lease rule all camera cards are to be turned in to me before lease holders can view . If my deer is showing up at another hunters stand more frequently then I have the option of hunting their stand and they can pick from my stands as an alternative. If another deer better than the one I chose in velvet appears on camera then I have the right to chose another buck. This keeps everyone honest. I also feel I should be compensated for dealing with the land owner and my lease fees are split up between my leaseholders. Deer hunting has always been very important to me and I like to keep things fair and upfront. There are plenty of decent bucks to go around. Geezus are you serious I think the batteries are dead in your sarcasm meter.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Grizz]
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09/12/20 07:23 PM
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As lease boss I like to reserve the deer I’m going to kill when they are just coming out of velvet. This saves any confusion about which deer is mine. As a lease rule all camera cards are to be turned in to me before lease holders can view . If my deer is showing up at another hunters stand more frequently then I have the option of hunting their stand and they can pick from my stands as an alternative. If another deer better than the one I chose in velvet appears on camera then I have the right to chose another buck. This keeps everyone honest. I also feel I should be compensated for dealing with the land owner and my lease fees are split up between my leaseholders. Deer hunting has always been very important to me and I like to keep things fair and upfront. There are plenty of decent bucks to go around. Geezus are you serious I think the batteries are dead in your sarcasm meter.
“I never forget a face—but in your case, I’ll be glad to make an exception.” —Groucho Marx
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Grizz]
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09/12/20 08:25 PM
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As lease boss I like to reserve the deer I’m going to kill when they are just coming out of velvet. This saves any confusion about which deer is mine. As a lease rule all camera cards are to be turned in to me before lease holders can view . If my deer is showing up at another hunters stand more frequently then I have the option of hunting their stand and they can pick from my stands as an alternative. If another deer better than the one I chose in velvet appears on camera then I have the right to chose another buck. This keeps everyone honest. I also feel I should be compensated for dealing with the land owner and my lease fees are split up between my leaseholders. Deer hunting has always been very important to me and I like to keep things fair and upfront. There are plenty of decent bucks to go around. Geezus are you serious I think the batteries are dead in your sarcasm meter. Well, it sounds like a setup my last "lease boss" would dearly love, and he'd be serious; especially the part about bringing all the sd cards to him. He could sit on his butt and hold court.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: scalebuster]
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09/12/20 10:41 PM
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As lease boss I like to reserve the deer I’m going to kill when they are just coming out of velvet. This saves any confusion about which deer is mine. As a lease rule all camera cards are to be turned in to me before lease holders can view. If my deer is showing up at another hunters stand more frequently then I have the option of hunting their stand and they can pick from my stands as an alternative. If another deer better than the one I chose in velvet appears on camera then I have the right to chose another buck. This keeps everyone honest. I also feel I should be compensated for dealing with the land owner and my lease fees are split up between my leaseholders. Deer hunting has always been very important to me and I like to keep things fair and upfront. There are plenty of decent bucks to go around. I get the sarcasm - anyone who would hunt (much less stay) on a ranch like this deserves what they signed up for. I know there are a lot of lease brokers/bosses who get their way paid by the other hunters. I would not dream of doing this or hunting on a lease that allows this - way too much conflict of interest IMO
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: tlk]
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09/13/20 12:32 AM
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As lease boss I like to reserve the deer I’m going to kill when they are just coming out of velvet. This saves any confusion about which deer is mine. As a lease rule all camera cards are to be turned in to me before lease holders can view. If my deer is showing up at another hunters stand more frequently then I have the option of hunting their stand and they can pick from my stands as an alternative. If another deer better than the one I chose in velvet appears on camera then I have the right to chose another buck. This keeps everyone honest. I also feel I should be compensated for dealing with the land owner and my lease fees are split up between my leaseholders. Deer hunting has always been very important to me and I like to keep things fair and upfront. There are plenty of decent bucks to go around. I get the sarcasm - anyone who would hunt (much less stay) on a ranch like this deserves what they signed up for. I know there are a lot of lease brokers/bosses who get their way paid by the other hunters. I would not dream of doing this or hunting on a lease that allows this - way too much conflict of interest IMO tlk I have not personally been on a lease in forever, that may change soon and if it does I hope that it is run the way you operate. If so they would have an extra hand in the chores. I have been a guest on a couple of leases where things were not straight up or equal and I will leave it at that. Obviously most leases are run differently to a certain degree. I think it is reasonable if a lease manager is responsible for collecting all the monies and keeping everyone in line that his and only his lease cost is paid for by the other members. If he is a lease Boss/Dicktator that does not do things equitably, legally or ethically and the other members accept and know it, then it is what it is unfortunately.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Stub]
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09/13/20 12:59 AM
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tlk
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As lease boss I like to reserve the deer I’m going to kill when they are just coming out of velvet. This saves any confusion about which deer is mine. As a lease rule all camera cards are to be turned in to me before lease holders can view. If my deer is showing up at another hunters stand more frequently then I have the option of hunting their stand and they can pick from my stands as an alternative. If another deer better than the one I chose in velvet appears on camera then I have the right to chose another buck. This keeps everyone honest. I also feel I should be compensated for dealing with the land owner and my lease fees are split up between my leaseholders. Deer hunting has always been very important to me and I like to keep things fair and upfront. There are plenty of decent bucks to go around. I get the sarcasm - anyone who would hunt (much less stay) on a ranch like this deserves what they signed up for. I know there are a lot of lease brokers/bosses who get their way paid by the other hunters. I would not dream of doing this or hunting on a lease that allows this - way too much conflict of interest IMO tlk I have not personally been on a lease in forever, that may change soon and if it does I hope that it is run the way you operate. If so they would have an extra hand in the chores. I have been a guest on a couple of leases where things were not straight up or equal and I will leave it at that. Obviously most leases are run differently to a certain degree. I think it is reasonable if a lease manager is responsible for collecting all the monies and keeping everyone in line that his and only his lease cost is paid for by the other members. If he is a lease Boss/Dicktator that does not do things equitably, legally or ethically and the other members accept and know it, then it is what it is unfortunately. Stub - I would be honored to have a guy like you on our lease. Believe me I have been on several leases that were, IMO, run totally the wrong way. That is the history of my hunting experiences that formed how I decided to run this lease. I am not saying a good lease manager could not do it well while covering their own cost. I just always felt that to be a good lease manager you need to be on the same level as the other hunters. I do what I do because I simply love deer hunting and seeing others enjoy it too.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
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09/13/20 01:37 AM
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Landowner calls me the "Lease Captain." I inherited the job. It's a thankless task. I'm responsible for everything...including paying the lease fee, paying the electric bill, filling spots, etc. I actually pay more than the others because I don't want to fill a spot so I absorbed that cost. One example - On the day of my mother's funeral I was dealing with a pizzed off LO because one member (and his grown son) had shot a neighbors house while dove hunting, got a ticket from the Game Warden for no license, and left shotgun hulls all over the ranch. Must have had 20 calls that day and I ended up going to the ranch a few days later to pick up all the hulls myself. Ended up kicking that guy off.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Jimbo1]
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09/13/20 02:08 AM
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I feel your pain! As a big a pain as it can be I still love doing it
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Adchunts]
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09/13/20 05:02 PM
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tlk's lease and the way he manages it is the type lease and lease managers that I like to be part of. tlk obviously going way above and beyond because he just loves it and passing on his wisdom. Isn't that what's suppose to be all about anyway. I think so.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Hudbone]
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09/13/20 11:28 PM
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headed to Geronimo for some dove hunting this morning. Don't know how many others are going, but I am sure to see pumps and over & unders. I will utilize my trusty side by side this day. Still think of great granddaddy every time I pull it out. Darn sure ain't going to be disparaging the oher hunters for their choices. In fact, I will celebrate their good shots and, of course, my lucky ones.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Always ready 2 hunt]
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09/14/20 12:45 AM
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tlk's lease and the way he manages it is the type lease and lease managers that I like to be part of. tlk obviously going way above and beyond because he just loves it and passing on his wisdom. Isn't that what's suppose to be all about anyway. I think so. thank you Sir - we are not perfect but we do try to do our best - at the end of the day I just care about memories - some for me but more importantly those for my friends - after all is that not what life should be about?
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
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09/14/20 12:55 AM
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does anyone notice how the "Dan's" of the world fade away when they are pressed for logical answers??
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: tlk]
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09/14/20 01:03 PM
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does anyone notice how the "Dan's" of the world fade away when they are pressed for logical answers?? Some folks are better than others at recognizing when a discussion has reached the point where all the key points have been covered at length. Never thought about it but perhaps threads should be limited to a given number of pages. If someone feels a discussion has morphed into something that goes beyond the limit, let them start a new thread.
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Re: Natural progression of lease hunting
[Re: Texas Dan]
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09/14/20 03:44 PM
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does anyone notice how the "Dan's" of the world fade away when they are pressed for logical answers?? Some folks are better than others at recognizing when a discussion has reached the point where all the key points have been covered at length. Never thought about it but perhaps threads should be limited to a given number of pages. If someone feels a discussion has morphed into something that goes beyond the limit, let them start a new thread. No room for puffed up "I gonna kill whatever the hell I want." Thise types will never kill a 120 inch buck in their lifetimes." Yet in a later post he brags about passing up 160-180 inch. Goes after 200" +... & calls other hunters jerks who don't follow his idea's... Legal tis legal, " All deer are Trophy's"...
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