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Re: ATV tie down method [Re: Hudbone] #7952374 08/27/20 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hudbone
Towing either a Scrambler or a Tacoma, I have had nothing but problems when the suspension is allowed to "work". I ain't buying that method for a minute.

With each, I attach the winch cable to the trailer and then use a ratchet and clevice to tie down tires on opposite sides.



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It is a sickening feeling watching a 4x4 unload off the back of your trailer @ 60 mph! Luckily no one else involved, stayed in lane until it slowed down and went into a pretty good ditch with some water. Stopped before it got to the fence. Ratchet strap came loose in front and rear tires ate the rear strap when they hit the pavement. Changed how it's strapped now. Whew! Walked back to it, cranked up, loaded, and gone again.


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Re: ATV tie down method [Re: onlysmith&wesson] #7952461 08/27/20 11:44 PM
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It scares the crap out of me seeing how little people know about strapping a load down and this thread is evident of that. I was in Silverton last month and seeing how some people strap down their UTVs and ATVs scared

My rule is if you hang the trailer upside down the load should not shift at all. When your single tie down comes loose and you kill someone behind you all of a sudden that few extra minutes for more straps might not seem like a waste of time.

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When hauling early Bronco, I use 2 chainS and ratchet binder over the front and rear 3rd member. Hook into stake pockets on trailer. Extremely secure.
Mule pro is a little different. 3” ratchet Straps and axle Straps from brush guard to front of trailer. 2 3” axle straps from side of receiver hitch to trailer stake pockets.



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Originally Posted by z71dustin
It scares the crap out of me seeing how little people know about strapping a load down and this thread is evident of that. I was in Silverton last month and seeing how some people strap down their UTVs and ATVs scared

My rule is if you hang the trailer upside down the load should not shift at all. When your single tie down comes loose and you kill someone behind you all of a sudden that few extra minutes for more straps might not seem like a waste of time.

Did you miss the part about the safety cable? Don't lecture me about "killing someone", makes you look the kid in kindergarten that wrote down the names of all the kids that talked when the teacher left the room.

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Originally Posted by z71dustin
[b]It scares the crap out of me seeing how little people know about strapping a load down and this thread is evident of that.[/b] I was in Silverton last month and se[b][/b]eing how some people strap down their UTVs and ATVs scared

My rule is if you hang the trailer upside down the load should not shift at all. When your single tie down comes loose and you kill someone behind you all of a sudden that few extra minutes for more straps might not seem like a waste of time.


I agree 100%. Several years ago there were 3 pickups and a truck tractor that wound up in the ditch because of something like this. I was one of them. The good thing is a state trooper witnessed the whole thing. He gave that guy more tickets than carter has pills.

Re: ATV tie down method [Re: onlysmith&wesson] #7952611 08/28/20 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by z71dustin
It scares the crap out of me seeing how little people know about strapping a load down and this thread is evident of that. I was in Silverton last month and seeing how some people strap down their UTVs and ATVs scared

My rule is if you hang the trailer upside down the load should not shift at all. When your single tie down comes loose and you kill someone behind you all of a sudden that few extra minutes for more straps might not seem like a waste of time.

Did you miss the part about the safety cable? Don't lecture me about "killing someone", makes you look the kid in kindergarten that wrote down the names of all the kids that talked when the teacher left the room.


Sensitive much? Don't get your panties in a wad because you are doing something poorly.

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Originally Posted by z71dustin
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Originally Posted by z71dustin
It scares the crap out of me seeing how little people know about strapping a load down and this thread is evident of that. I was in Silverton last month and seeing how some people strap down their UTVs and ATVs scared

My rule is if you hang the trailer upside down the load should not shift at all. When your single tie down comes loose and you kill someone behind you all of a sudden that few extra minutes for more straps might not seem like a waste of time.

Did you miss the part about the safety cable? Don't lecture me about "killing someone", makes you look the kid in kindergarten that wrote down the names of all the kids that talked when the teacher left the room.


Sensitive much? Don't get your panties in a wad because you are doing something poorly.

Where do you live? Maybe we could meet and you can show me the proper method to secure my ATV?


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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
Originally Posted by z71dustin
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Originally Posted by z71dustin
It scares the crap out of me seeing how little people know about strapping a load down and this thread is evident of that. I was in Silverton last month and seeing how some people strap down their UTVs and ATVs scared

My rule is if you hang the trailer upside down the load should not shift at all. When your single tie down comes loose and you kill someone behind you all of a sudden that few extra minutes for more straps might not seem like a waste of time.

Did you miss the part about the safety cable? Don't lecture me about "killing someone", makes you look the kid in kindergarten that wrote down the names of all the kids that talked when the teacher left the room.


Sensitive much? Don't get your panties in a wad because you are doing something poorly.

Where do you live? Maybe we could meet and you can show me the proper method to secure my ATV?


Lubbock but it would probably be easier to watch some videos or read some articles for helpful pointers.

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"Lubbock but it would probably be easier to watch some videos or read some articles for helpful pointers." That's too bad, I've been wanting to meet you ever since you called me a "jealous tool" in another thread.


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Re: ATV tie down method [Re: onlysmith&wesson] #7952883 08/28/20 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
"Lubbock but it would probably be easier to watch some videos or read some articles for helpful pointers." That's too bad, I've been wanting to meet you ever since you called me a "jealous tool" in another thread.


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Yeah man, everyone wants to take shortcuts. The correct way to secure a vehicle to a trailer is with 4 connection points . Even with a safety cable or safety chain, if the load comes loose, it can severely change the balance of the trailer. At highway speeds, that can be deadly.

For me, no matter the vehicle, it is 4 straps and a safety chain for the front and one for the rear.

Do it right, and check it every time you stop.

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"Lubbock but it would probably be easier to watch some videos or read some articles for helpful pointers." That's too bad, I've been wanting to meet you ever since you called me a "jealous tool" in another thread.


roflmao

Only a boy that's never been in a fist fight calls a grown man a name, and then laughs when offered the chance to meet. You're right, it's funny.


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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
Originally Posted by z71dustin
It scares the crap out of me seeing how little people know about strapping a load down and this thread is evident of that. I was in Silverton last month and seeing how some people strap down their UTVs and ATVs scared

My rule is if you hang the trailer upside down the load should not shift at all. When your single tie down comes loose and you kill someone behind you all of a sudden that few extra minutes for more straps might not seem like a waste of time.

Did you miss the part about the safety cable? Don't lecture me about "killing someone", makes you look the kid in kindergarten that wrote down the names of all the kids that talked when the teacher left the room.


To be fair, he is right. There are standards on how to secure a vehicle to a trailer for a reason. Standards are created by the commercial industry but still apply to pulling vehicles behind a pickup.

Straight from the FMCSA (Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration)

Securing Automobiles, Light Trucks, and Vans
(Section 3.7.2)
Tiedowns attached to the vehicle being transported are
the most effective securement system.
Securement requirement
♦ Use at least two tiedowns at both the front and rear of
the cargo to prevent movement.
− Side-to-side
− Forward and rearward
− Vertically

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People act like there is an opinion on the correct way to do this. You can have your opinion but that doesn't change the way to safely move equipment.

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Originally Posted by z71dustin
It scares the crap out of me seeing how little people know about strapping a load down and this thread is evident of that. I was in Silverton last month and seeing how some people strap down their UTVs and ATVs scared

My rule is if you hang the trailer upside down the load should not shift at all. When your single tie down comes loose and you kill someone behind you all of a sudden that few extra minutes for more straps might not seem like a waste of time.

Did you miss the part about the safety cable? Don't lecture me about "killing someone", makes you look the kid in kindergarten that wrote down the names of all the kids that talked when the teacher left the room.


To be fair, he is right. There are standards on how to secure a vehicle to a trailer for a reason. Standards are created by the commercial industry but still apply to pulling vehicles behind a pickup.

Straight from the FMCSA (Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration)

Securing Automobiles, Light Trucks, and Vans
(Section 3.7.2)
Tiedowns attached to the vehicle being transported are
the most effective securement system.
Securement requirement
♦ Use at least two tiedowns at both the front and rear of
the cargo to prevent movement.
− Side-to-side
− Forward and rearward
− Vertically


I can have a conversation with a grown man as shown in the entire thread. Being lectured about killing people, name calling, etc.....isn't going to happen without me calling this boy out. Thanks for the advice, I'll consider it as I have some of the other methods I've commented on. Your method would of course work, but I don't think the FMCSA applies to an ATV. That's not saying it's a bad idea.


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People act like there is an opinion on the correct way to do this. You can have your opinion but that doesn't change the way to safely move equipment.


Exactly. To be honest there are others in here worse than the OP who is so upset now. At least he is using a good strap and has a safety in case his single strap breaks, others don't.

When I was in Silverton you see the same. How do people spend 20-30k on a rig and then tie it down with one $10 strap from Auto Zone and think its good?

I regularly haul tractors and farm equipment when moving farms and you could turn the trailer upside down and they would not move. That's for piece of mind, safety of myself and others on the road and that pesky agency called the DOT.

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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
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Originally Posted by z71dustin
It scares the crap out of me seeing how little people know about strapping a load down and this thread is evident of that. I was in Silverton last month and seeing how some people strap down their UTVs and ATVs scared

My rule is if you hang the trailer upside down the load should not shift at all. When your single tie down comes loose and you kill someone behind you all of a sudden that few extra minutes for more straps might not seem like a waste of time.

Did you miss the part about the safety cable? Don't lecture me about "killing someone", makes you look the kid in kindergarten that wrote down the names of all the kids that talked when the teacher left the room.


To be fair, he is right. There are standards on how to secure a vehicle to a trailer for a reason. Standards are created by the commercial industry but still apply to pulling vehicles behind a pickup.

Straight from the FMCSA (Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration)

Securing Automobiles, Light Trucks, and Vans
(Section 3.7.2)
Tiedowns attached to the vehicle being transported are
the most effective securement system.
Securement requirement
♦ Use at least two tiedowns at both the front and rear of
the cargo to prevent movement.
− Side-to-side
− Forward and rearward
− Vertically


I can have a conversation with a grown man as shown in the entire thread. Being lectured about killing people, name calling, etc.....isn't going to happen without me calling this boy out. Thanks for the advice, I'll consider it as I have some of the other methods I've commented on. Your method would of course work, but I don't think the FMCSA applies to an ATV. That's not saying it's a bad idea.


You called me out? For what? Calling people out who don't know how to strap down something on a trailer? Thank you for giving me some entertainment today clap

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"You called me out? For what? Calling people out who don't know how to strap down something on a trailer? Thank you for giving me some entertainment today clap"
Jr, as I told you, I called you out for calling me a jealous tool, lecturing me about killing people, wearing panties and getting them wadded up. If you find this entertaining, that's small. Let me help you out, I'm serious. Mature, grown men don't communicate with each other this way. Kids, from 300 miles away over the internet do. I asked you if you wanted to meet me, and you laughed. I read some of your posts to try and figure you out a little bit. Are you an A & M Grad? If so, I'd be surprised. You would be the first A&M grad I have dealt with that comes off the way you do.

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"My rule is if you hang the trailer upside down the load should not shift at all."

This^^^^^^^!!!! Rule No. 2: Drive a mile or so, pull over and recheck boomers, straps, ropes, etc. before continuing. Chances are the shifting of the vehicle has caused some slack. When you stop for fuel, recheck again. When I'm going down the road and see how some people "secure" their load, I get around them as fast as possible. Basically when hauling any vehicle, equipment, etc. you should strap it to pull it apart. No forward or backward motion. The front straps or chains should pull it forward and the back straps or chains should pull it backwards. Safety cable on the front. If the trailer is to short, do the opposite. Pull the load to the middle. I secure tractors, bobcats, dozers or anything I haul on four points. Each side is secured with a boomer or strap so if one breaks or gets slack, the other point is still secure.

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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
"You called me out? For what? Calling people out who don't know how to strap down something on a trailer? Thank you for giving me some entertainment today clap"
Jr, as I told you, I called you out for calling me a jealous tool, lecturing me about killing people, wearing panties and getting them wadded up. If you find this entertaining, that's small. Let me help you out, I'm serious. Mature, grown men don't communicate with each other this way. Kids, from 300 miles away over the internet do. I asked you if you wanted to meet me, and you laughed. I read some of your posts to try and figure you out a little bit. Are you an A & M Grad? If so, I'd be surprised. You would be the first A&M grad I have dealt with that comes off the way you do.


Let me guess, I called you a jealous tool because you went on a thread someone started to show off their deer they were proud of and you belittled them and their kill because it wasn't LF? If so then I stand by that. That's acting like a jealous tool.

And yes it is quite amusing how someone gets so worked up on the internet they want to meet someone. I'm in Lubbock so anytime you want to drive here let me know and I'll tell you where to find me.

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"You called me out? For what? Calling people out who don't know how to strap down something on a trailer? Thank you for giving me some entertainment today clap"
Jr, as I told you, I called you out for calling me a jealous tool, lecturing me about killing people, wearing panties and getting them wadded up. If you find this entertaining, that's small. Let me help you out, I'm serious. Mature, grown men don't communicate with each other this way. Kids, from 300 miles away over the internet do. I asked you if you wanted to meet me, and you laughed. I read some of your posts to try and figure you out a little bit. Are you an A & M Grad? If so, I'd be surprised. You would be the first A&M grad I have dealt with that comes off the way you do.


Let me guess, I called you a jealous tool because you went on a thread someone started to show off their deer they were proud of and you belittled them and their kill because it wasn't LF? If so then I stand by that. That's acting like a jealous tool.

And yes it is quite amusing how someone gets so worked up on the internet they want to meet someone. I'm in Lubbock so anytime you want to drive here let me know and I'll tell you where to find me.

You didn't answer my question about being an A&M Grad. Are you?


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